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Do you really treat US as allies, when the good doctor who aided your "ally" was booked under - treason which by definition is betrying one's country to help an enemy.
If the doctor helped US- how can it be treason - if it's you ally
If it is treason - How can US be your Ally?
I do not believe the doctor, Shakeel Afridi is or deserves to be jailed for aiding in the death of Bin Laden. With that scum Bin Laden dead though I am sad we Pakistanis did not have the opportunity to bleed him dry the insurgency is angered and I want to anger them-the way they do by killing my country's citizens.

The thing is he should be in jail for another few things:
1) Bringing dishonor to the medical profession and the image of polio workers-who suffer the most attacks than any medical people. We still haven't cured polio as you can see-with the prevailing stereotypes we never may. Its about the way people think. Our people are still very primitive. They don't know about modern concepts and the reality. They believe polio drops are a quest to make their children infertile.

2) Cheating Pakistan. Even if he suspected that some Pakistani officers were working hand in hand with the Taliban or other terrorist groups he should have confided in someone. He should have told someone and we should have mounted the operation. The operation brought shame to the country. I say constantly-we should have killed bin laden.

But some of your points are valid. How can they be allies when we don't even have a modicum of trust in our relationships. I blame Americans for that. Dual faced, supporting dictators in our country and the 1980's support to all types of arrogant mullahs. Mullahs who do not even know about Ijtehad or Ibn Rushd. Mullahs calling the mutazilites infidels...
 
Shouldn't we Pakistanis be protesting this. We need to clear our terms of engagement with the US. Weshould put pressure on them not to have such exercices and ties with the Indians. We have a shitty foreign policy. These leaders can't demand Pakistani interests-PPPP was the worst freeing davis and giving haqqani free reign.
Sadly only Jewish community in us, govt of Russian & chineese only in a position to pressurise US.

I want that flying idly in try color.
 
Read what happen to Nathuram Godse...

Nathuram Godse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Are you supporting Afzal Guru or Yakub Memon??Both are accused against plotting against Nation??

Samjhuta Blast are taken care of.Do you even know who Arif Qasmani is???

The thing is,Pakistan played double game in the name of "War on Terror"..No country takes this lightly.one way or another,they'll try to harm you,or play against you.
Was RSS banned? What about Modi, Tytler and Babu Bajrangi?

I heard that samjhauta was done by purohit and sadhvi pragya. All countrys have made rash policy decisions. Pakistan is no exception.
 
I do not believe the doctor, Shakeel Afridi is or deserves to be jailed for aiding in the death of Bin Laden. With that scum Bin Laden dead though I am sad we Pakistanis did not have the opportunity to bleed him dry the insurgency is angered and I want to anger them-the way they do by killing my country's citizens.
Glad to hear that.

The thing is he should be in jail for another few things:
1) Bringing dishonor to the medical profession and the image of polio workers-who suffer the most attacks than any medical people. We still haven't cured polio as you can see-with the prevailing stereotypes we never may. Its about the way people think. Our people are still very primitive. They don't know about modern concepts and the reality. They believe polio drops are a quest to make their children infertile.
Should be, could be, would be, he is booked for treason. For aiding US (with Pakistan being a non-nato ally and partner in WoT - with OBL being the highest int he order of HVT)

2) Cheating Pakistan. Even if he suspected that some Pakistani officers were working hand in hand with the Taliban or other terrorist groups he should have confided in someone. He should have told someone and we should have mounted the operation. The operation brought shame to the country. I say constantly-we should have killed bin laden.
Provided that OBL was hiding in a garrison town few clicks from a cantonment, and exactly 18 miles off Mansehra already identified by Afghan Intel agencies back in 07, seems quite ironic that Pakistan Deep State playing "oops I did it again" card. Rather that thanking US agencies and hailing the good doctor, you are coming up with reasons to justify his arrest... Indeed it takes a special kind of rationale to do so.

But some of your points are valid. How can they be allies when we don't even have a modicum of trust in our relationships. I blame Americans for that. Dual faced, supporting dictators in our country and the 1980's support to all types of arrogant mullahs. Mullahs who do not even know about Ijtehad or Ibn Rushd. Mullahs calling the mutazilites infidels...

Actually none of my points are valid, If they were the Doctor wouldn't be rotting in Jail for doing something that your state should have done long long ago. As far as US's role is concerned- they will provide you with what you want. Instead of asking for assistance to build universities and colleges, you asked for gear of war... not that I have any issues with that...

Coming back to your quip of zero sum game relation between India and Pakistan vis-a-vis US that you envision... I would love to see your foreign office do something on those lines, especially after the consistent diplomatic routs that have been happening over the years where the POTUS simply ignores the Frontline state against WoT for the Poor hungry India.
 
Was RSS banned? What about Modi, Tytler and Babu Bajrangi?

I heard that samjhauta was done by purohit and sadhvi pragya. All countrys have made rash policy decisions. Pakistan is no exception.

You heard Purohit and some others made Samjhuta Blast,meanwhile USA and UN tagged Arif Qasmani as International Terrorist for his link with this blast...

read this......

The case was under investigation with the Haryana police who could not make any headway after their probe led to a tailor in Indore who had prepared the cover of the suitcase in which the bombs were planted. After over three years, the probe was handed over to the National Investigation Agency in the middle of 2010 by the Central government. At that time, there were reports that the Hindu right-wing groups that were involved in the Malegaon and Ajmer blasts were also involved in the Samjhauta Express blast. The Americans had in the meanwhile, in early 2009, identified a Pakistani, Asif Kasmani, of the Lashkar-e-Taiba, as involved in the Samjhauta Express blast, and moved the UN to declare him as an international terrorist. Americans generally do not make such claims easily. Did they have some clue, or evidence that the Indian investigators missed? The investigators had therefore to move carefully and look at unimpeachable evidence to come to any conclusion about the actual perpetrators.


Also these...

US sanctions Pak Lashkar man, cites his Samjhauta blast link - Indian Express

Case is still open..


But did Pakistan ever tried to make any headway???

Curious case of Qasmani, who US,UN named in bombing - Indian Express

He was added to UNSC 1267,the same list where Hafiz saeed and alike are listed.


QDi.271 Name: 1: ARIF 2: QASMANI 3: na 4: na
Title: na Designation: na DOB: Approximately 1944 POB: Pakistan Good quality a.k.a.: a) Muhammad Arif Qasmani b) Muhammad ‘Arif Qasmani c) Mohammad Arif Qasmani d) Arif Umer e) Qasmani Baba f) Memon Baba g) Baba Ji Low quality a.k.a.: na Nationality: Pakistani Passport no.: na National identification no.: na Address: House Number 136, KDA Scheme No. 1, Tipu Sultan Road, Karachi, Pakistan Listed on: 29 Jun. 2009 Other information: Associated with Lashkar-e-Tayyiba (QDe.118) and Al-Qaida (QDe.004). In detention as at June 2009.

1267/1989 Sanctions List

about RSS,if someone linked with RSS murder somebody,it doesn't make RSS a "Terrorist Organisation".But if it gets proved that RSS explicitly gave that order and it is their policy,then it makes guilty.Its a basic comprehension.Does Al Qaida has a policy to conduct regular suicide bombing and killing innocents as well as personnel and foreigners alike??The answer might make all your argument null and void.in this 67 years,how many murders and bombings are attributed to RSS??and RSS is just an organisation.Pakistan is a state.
 
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i didnt get you,mate
What I mean neither India nor Pakistan ina a position to bargain or dictate US policies, not even UK can't do. US ( president & senete )will do whatever it want to do,at present the powerful Jewish community in us administration can change this.
 
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