Pic of J-10B with WS-10X for the 8.1 Anniversary

[Dazzler]

If the above was pointed at me trust me i will be the last person to troll having a think tank TAG under my name. What i want to say is that no matter how knowledgeable one is, errors might happen and sometimes what we hear, does not turn into reality. This includes me as well. I am jubilant to see WS-10 on J-10B to be honest

 

[conworldus]

If the above was pointed at me trust me i will be the last person to troll having a think tank TAG under my name. What i want to say is that no matter how knowledgeable one is, errors might happen and sometimes what we hear, does not turn into reality. This includes me as well. I am jubilant to see WS-10 on J-10B to be honest

The best thing is that the aircraft has service color. Hopefully the testing phase won't be too long. If the WS-10 goes into full production alongside J-10B, China can export J-10B 100% without any foreign dependence. Russia won't be able to object the sale like it did with JF-17 with RD93 engine.

 

[Dazzler]

Judging from the rapid induction of WS-10 with varying platforms ranging from J-11 series, J-15 and now J-10B, seems like it is maturing pretty smoothly and PLAAF/ PLAN seem to have gained in confidence in it. I assume it might receive IOC within 2 years but thats just my take.

 

[Akasa]

Now make some sense..

The WS-10A was tested successfully and certainly not rejected. They now power all of the J-11B variants and the J-15. The reason why you haven't seen it on the J-10A is because there is only one factory producing the engines so they produce less yield. The fact that SAC took all of the WS-10A engines is the exact reason why the J-10A doesn't sport it.

You can not put engines with different thrusts on a twin engine fighter (WS-10A and AL-31 have different thrusts). You are going to have some serious problems once airborne.

That makes more sense than a claim without prior research.

 

[Akasa]

May be for ground testing.. but of course not for flying.. is that acceptable

So all the J-15s with WS-10As are actually doing ground testing in midair?

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

According to Daokou, J-10B has already flying with WS-10X back in 2008-2010, but Huzigeng was also right, because the first batch of J-10B will still equip with AL-31FN.

Back then, when J-10B was designed, WS-10 was not ready yet to be equipped for the single-engined platform.

 

[milvipes]

Well, WS-10 is after all a kissing cousin of F110, which was carrier-qualified as early as 1988.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

So all the J-15s with WS-10As are actually doing ground testing in midair?

This will be our last deal with Russia for the AL-31 engine.

Even US does now admit that the quality is not an issue for WS-10 anymore, but rather it is about the quantity.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Well, WS-10 is after all a kissing cousin of F110, which was carrier-qualified as early as 1988.

But it is going to be superior to its older cousin.

With around same lifespan, but higher thrust. So being introducing around 20 years later is still acceptable.

 

[peaceful]

There is certain procedures to fulfill for certification of aero engines.. the first amongst them is flight test it with a multiple engine aircraft by replacing one of its engines. It is said that WS-10, which rejected on behalf of poor performance but where is it tested ?? in a single engine platform ?.. hell no. Scientists wouldn't risk the pilot's life with a single engine test bed. So my assumption is that WS-10 rejected from the earlier stages at best a twin platform but not J-10.

please stop trolling. Chinese don't need indians to tell us how to test an engine.

WS-10A has been fitted on J-11B, all J-11B in production use WS-10A. Hundreds of them are already in PLAAF active service.

troll post reported.

 

[peaceful]

Proof speaks larger than this..

where is your bloody proof? you stupid dirty loser./

 

[peaceful]

But mine is fixed. You usually do that stuff ?

clean your nation, build a real industry base, modernize your armed forces, upgrade mumbai so it can be compared with Shanghai if you indians have balls

 

[Akasa]

This will be our last deal with Russia for the AL-31 engine.

Even US does now admit that the quality is not an issue for WS-10 anymore, but rather it is about the quantity.

We know this ever since the pictures of the J-11B came out.

 

[Merilion]

clean your nation, build a real industry base, modernize your armed forces, upgrade mumbai so it can be compared with Shanghai if you indians have balls

dude, this is uncalled...

 

[dingyibvs]

Then why not its fitted with J-10 ?

It's not that easy to mass produce engines you know. As you mentioned before, there were some serious issues with the WS-10 in the beginning, and it has only started mass production two years ago. It takes some time to scale it up so that it can satisfy J-11B, J-15, AND J-10 production demands. Besides, the engines in those 3 types are all somewhat different, so it needed to be thoroughly tested for each aircraft before being inducted. Right now, there's only enough production capacity to fill the J-11B demands, but eventually you'll see it on all three types.