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upps ... sorry wrong threadwhy is this in the philippines thread?
( I delete it right away) I suppose upload in Indonesia economy Forum.cannot delete it by myself but already report wrong thread ...
Indonesia, Philippines to monitor ISIS movement
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Indonesian Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu
REPUBLIKA.CO.ID, JAKARTA -- The governments of Indonesia and the Philippines are intensively communicating to monitor the developments of the ISIS movement in Marawi, southern Philippines. Indonesian Defense Minister Ryamizard Ryacudu revealed that every two days, his staff and the personal team of the Philippines' Defense Minister Delfin Lorenzana communicate to exchange the latest information on ISIS.
"Through such communication, we hope to minimize ISIS' spread in the Philippines and anticipate any of its impacts on other countries in the region," Ryacudu said here on Thursday.
Trilateral cooperation, involving Indonesia, Malaysia, and the Philippines, has yet to make any significant progress apart from tightening border security in Marawi through coordinated patrols. According to Ryacudu, sea and air patrols aim to restrict the ISIS members from leaving Marawi.
Since terrorism is a common enemy, it is not the sole responsibility of the armed forces to counter this menace, but the police and counterterrorism agencies should also play a role.
The result of the trilateral ministerial meeting on counterterrorism currently held in Manila will decide whether the Indonesian National Police and National Counterterrorism Agency will be involved in resolving the conflict in Marawi.
Ryacudu stated that Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte had, in fact, agreed to involve additional military forces from Indonesia.
However, the Philippines' Constitution prohibits the involvement of foreign military forces to operate in its sovereign territory.
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why is this in the philippines thread?
Post moved as per your request.upps ... sorry wrong thread
cannot delete it by myself but already report wrong thread ...
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TANK/IFV? Why not patrol aircraft and naval ships?
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They need ground weapons to deal with ISIS-fighting in Marawi city.
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The small arms deal with China was made in December 2016, so the purpose of this transfer of rifles and ammunition is not related to what happened in Marawi.
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Sure, China should sell some aircrafts like K-8, L-15 jet trainer / Y-12, Y-8, Y-9 transport / JF-17 fighter / Z-8, Z-9, Z-11, Z-10 (armed) helo / patrol boat / stealth missile boat / FFG / DDG / Submarine / anti-ship or anti-aircraft Missiles to Philippines ... if BeiJing and Manila can sign a good deal which benefit to both nations, I do think China can provide everything they want, BeiJing has the interest to arm Philippines military force.
China can support Philippines with weapons (or make friend with Philippines via arms sale)
菲律宾士兵装卸枪械箱，后面是弹药箱
NDM-86 sniper rifle, 这次出口的是EM352构型，7.62×51mm ammo
CQ-A rifle (China M4)，5.56×45 mm ammo
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Actually, it is not in Beijing interest to arm Philippine.
First of all, traditionally, Philippine is a Pro-US country, even with Duerte in charge Today, we still see US troop fighting in Philippine and continue US-Philippine Collaboration between Armed Force and Law Enforcement level. US is not going to be force out by the Chinese. There are worse time in 1990s when the Philippine actually did expulse all US force in the country, and still, the relationship continue afterward, that show you how deeply US interference is in Philippine.
Another things is that even at the height of US-Philippine relationship, Philippine still cannot rearm their armed force, you are talking about a country that have difficulty to pay 500 millions for a few Korean Trainer. And you want to sell them multi-billions dollar warship??
Duerte is not really that stupid, he know something he can and he cannot do, and buying arms from China in any large quantities is not the things they can do at this point.
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Even with Duterte, the Philippines doesn't seem to be giving up its relations with the US, or its interest in the South China Sea that runs counter to China's 9 dash line.
Annual US-Philippines joint-training held in June with a name change and different theme for year 2017, but continues nonetheless.
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In the past few years, United States Navy and Philippine Navy were conducting Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) Philippines every month of June. CARAT is a series of US Pacific Command-sponsored, US Pacific Fleet-led bilateral exercises held several times annually with Southeast Asia nations to strengthen relationships and enhance force readiness.
CARAT Philippines 2016 focused on combined operations at sea, amphibious landings, diving and salvage, maritime domain awareness, and community service events.
However, after the Philippine government under the Duterte administration announced last year that CARAT and Amphibious Landing Exercise (Phiblex) with US Navy will be scrapped, Philippines and US navies this year launched a brand new maritime exercise named Maritime Training Activity Sama-Sama (together).
The inaugural activity was conducted June 19 to 25 with events mostly held in vicinity of Cebu. CARAT Philippines involved activities in West Philippine Sea.
“Sama Sama is a bilateral maritime exercise between U.S. and Philippine naval forces and is designed to strengthen cooperation and interoperability between the nations’ armed forces,” the US Navy said.
US assets deployed for MTA Sama-Sama were Independence-class littoral combat ship USS Coronado (LCS 4), Spearhead-class expeditionary fast transport USNS Millinocket (T-EPF 3), and a P-8 Poseidon aircraft.
Del Pilar-class frigate BRP Gregorio Del Pilar (PF-15), BRP Agta, an AW109 helicopter, and a BN-2 Islander aircraft, a Philippine Marine company and other naval staff represented the Philippine Navy.
National Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenza said in November last year that military exercises between US and Philippines will focus on counterterrorism, humanitarian response, engineering projects, and civic action. Moreover, activities with amphibious landing exercises, which were intended for external offensives, will be lessen.
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https://www.update.ph/2017/06/us-ph-create-brand-new-joint-maritime-exercise/18397
An example of the Philippines seemingly not giving up its interest in the Philippines was when the defense minister visited Pag-asa. Before landing at Pag-asa, his airplane circled around Subi reef. The Chinese radioed his aircraft to leave. Additionally, the Philippines are putting 32 million USD into the development of Pag-asa.
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MANILA, Philippines - A military aircraft flying Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana and Armed Forces chief Gen. Eduardo Año over the West Philippine Sea received a warning yesterday from Chinese forces to leave the airspace.
The Philippine Air Force (PAF) C-130 transport aircraft was circling over Zamora or Subi Reef for its final approach to the unpaved Rancudo airfield on Pag-Asa Island in the Spratlys when it received a radio warning from the Chinese to stay away from the area.
The PAF pilot responded that the aircraft was flying in Philippine airspace.
Lorenzana downplayed the incident. “It’s already normal because each time our planes conduct resupply operations here they are challenged (by the Chinese),” he said.
“We replied that we are flying over Philippine territory,” Lorenzana later told reporters.
AFP spokesman Brig. Gen. Restituto Padilla said the Chinese told the Filipino pilots to stay away from Subi to avoid a miscalculation.
“As before, (the pilots) were once again challenged as they made their pattern of landing,” Padilla said.
From being merely a “seabed” in “international waters” under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), Subi Reef has metamorphosed into a bustling artificial island, with massive structures, a 3,000-meter runway, two ports, gun emplacements, and radar domes.
There were reports the Chinese have installed a missile defense system on the reef. Based on UNCLOS, there can be no territorial waters for features built on the seabed. Subi Reef is about 40 nautical miles from Pag-asa Island.
With Lorenzana and Año on the plane were Army commanding general Lt. Gen. Glorioso Miranda, Western Command (Wescom) commander Lt. Gen. Raul del Rosario, and other AFP officials and members of the media. The aircraft touched down at around 8 a.m. The DND chief attended a flag ceremony along with 45 military officials and personnel stationed on the island.
The group, with Palawan Gov. Jose Alvarez and representatives of the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), toured the island.
On the West side of Pag-asa facing the West Philippine Sea, Lorenzana personally witnessed the presence from a distance of four to five Chinese Coast Guard ships.
In a statement, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said it welcomed efforts of the Department of National Defense and the AFP to secure Pag-asa Island.
“We defer to the DND and the Armed Forces on how best to fulfill their Constitutional mandates with respect to improving the safety, welfare, livelihood and personal security of Filipinos in the Palawan municipality of Kalayaan,” the DFA said.
‘Unsafe side’
Soldiers assigned on Pag-asa island told The STAR they call the Eastern side of the island the Philippine side and the Western part the “unsafe side” as they wouldn’t want to call it the Chinese side.
In remarks, Lorenzana assured government troops the administration of President Duterte and the AFP are looking after their welfare despite the Chinese menace.
The Chinese, he explained, “believe that this is theirs, they protest to say that they do not want what we are doing here.”
The Philippines maintains that the island group including Pag-asa is part of its territory, which Filipinos occupied as early as the late 1960s, and on which a runway was built in 1975.
“I don’t think I should give them any message. This is just a normal visit within our territory, we believe and we know that this is our territory and I am just visiting to look at the conditions of our people here,” Lorenzana said.
Reacting to China’s challenging the PAF’s flight over Subi, National Security Adviser Hermogenes Esperon Jr. said the administration takes seriously the Chinese action.
“We mind and we respond appropriately. We have our challenges and answers where protocols to be made if it is bad enough that that could be the basis for some note verbales,” Esperon said after President Duterte’s visit to Russian ship Varyag yesterday.
“A challenge is not something that is really positive. But a challenge could be just to identify yourself but it could also mean that you’re challenging because you think that’s your territory,” he added.
Asked if Duterte would go to Pag-asa island in the future, Esperon said: “In the future? Let me answer you that in the future.”
Pressed if the President would spend a night in the island, the national security adviser replied: “Why not? But not now.”
P1.6-B Pag-asa dev’t
Meanwhile, Loranzana also revealed the administration has set aside at least P1.6 billion to develop Pag-asa.
He said the building of a beaching ramp would be prioritized and hopefully done by July this year so that construction materials like gravel and cement as well as heavy equipment could be brought to the island by sea.
He told reporters in a press briefing that BFAR also intends to build a fish port in the area.
The government also wants to put up a radio station, an ice plant, water desalination facility, homes for soldiers stationed in the island, and put up a sewage system.
“We will develop this into a tourism area and marine research (facility),” Lorenzana said.
“These are our plans, the plans of the President and he said do it now and do not delay. That’s why we are here now,” he stressed.
“We’ve been here since 1971, and our flag has been planted way back in the 1970s. We were here first, the others just followed,” he said of the country’s claim on the Kalayaan Islands.
Lorenzana said the development of Pag-asa has long been delayed because of the arbitration case filed by the Philippines that resulted in a moratorium on the implementation of projects.
The DND chief said President Duterte’s treatment of China shows that he is just trying to develop friends around the neighborhood.
“China is the most powerful country in our neighborhood, economically and militarily, and we are trying to manage the issue and talk to them one-on-one bilaterally, settle this dispute in the South China Sea,” he said.
“I believe that the President is right in talking to the Chinese leadership on how to manage the issue here in South China Sea,” he added.
The second biggest island next only to the Taiwanese-occupied Itu Aba, Pag-asa is a fifth class municipality in Palawan exercising overall jurisdiction over the country’s regime of islands in the disputed Spratlys region.
Lorenzana’s trip to Pag-asa came only a day after reports came out about Chinese coast guards firing warning shots to drive a group of Bataan-based Filipino fishermen from Union Bank. The incident, which reportedly happened on March 27, involved Chinese coast guards securing the reclaimed Gaven Reef.
Philippine Coast Guard spokesperson Commander Armand Balilo confirmed receiving information about the Chinese harassment of Filipino fishermen around Union Bank.
He said a Chinese coast guard speedboat with guns and carrying seven personnel fired shots at the fishing boat Princess Johann, which is owned and operated by Dionisio Cabacungan.
The Chinese reportedly fired warning shots when the Filipino boat dropped anchor some two nautical miles from Union Bank. The crew panicked, cut off their anchor line and fled the area.
Balilo said they were not able to interview the fishermen as they had already returned to the sea. “We were only able to communicate with them via radio. But according to the boat captain, the Chinese Coast Guard did not directly fire shots at them,” he said.
Vietnamese and Chinese forces have already occupied most of the maritime features within the Union Bank, a wide body of submerged features right within the country’s 200-nautical mile exclusive economic zone.
Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei also have overlapping maritime claims in the region. Only Brunei has no military presence in the areas it claims.
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http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...se-challenge-philippines-defense-chiefs-plane
Maybe some can still see a benefit for China to sell ships and aircraft to this kind of Philippines, but I can't. After all, they are getting ships and planes from other places like Indonesia, South Korea, the US, and Japan.
Annual US-Philippines joint-training held in June with a name change and different theme for year 2017, but continues nonetheless.
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In the past few years, United States Navy and Philippine Navy were conducting Cooperation Afloat Readiness and Training (CARAT) Philippines every month of June. CARAT is a series of US Pacific Command-sponsored, US Pacific Fleet-led bilateral exercises held several times annually with Southeast Asia nations to strengthen relationships and enhance force readiness.
CARAT Philippines 2016 focused on combined operations at sea, amphibious landings, diving and salvage, maritime domain awareness, and community service events.
However, after the Philippine government under the Duterte administration announced last year that CARAT and Amphibious Landing Exercise (Phiblex) with US Navy will be scrapped, Philippines and US navies this year launched a brand new maritime exercise named Maritime Training Activity Sama-Sama (together).
The inaugural activity was conducted June 19 to 25 with events mostly held in vicinity of Cebu. CARAT Philippines involved activities in West Philippine Sea.
“Sama Sama is a bilateral maritime exercise between U.S. and Philippine naval forces and is designed to strengthen cooperation and interoperability between the nations’ armed forces,” the US Navy said.
US assets deployed for MTA Sama-Sama were Independence-class littoral combat ship USS Coronado (LCS 4), Spearhead-class expeditionary fast transport USNS Millinocket (T-EPF 3), and a P-8 Poseidon aircraft.
Del Pilar-class frigate BRP Gregorio Del Pilar (PF-15), BRP Agta, an AW109 helicopter, and a BN-2 Islander aircraft, a Philippine Marine company and other naval staff represented the Philippine Navy.
National Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenza said in November last year that military exercises between US and Philippines will focus on counterterrorism, humanitarian response, engineering projects, and civic action. Moreover, activities with amphibious landing exercises, which were intended for external offensives, will be lessen.
---end---
https://www.update.ph/2017/06/us-ph-create-brand-new-joint-maritime-exercise/18397
An example of the Philippines seemingly not giving up its interest in the Philippines was when the defense minister visited Pag-asa. Before landing at Pag-asa, his airplane circled around Subi reef. The Chinese radioed his aircraft to leave. Additionally, the Philippines are putting 32 million USD into the development of Pag-asa.
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MANILA, Philippines - A military aircraft flying Defense Secretary Delfin Lorenzana and Armed Forces chief Gen. Eduardo Año over the West Philippine Sea received a warning yesterday from Chinese forces to leave the airspace.
The Philippine Air Force (PAF) C-130 transport aircraft was circling over Zamora or Subi Reef for its final approach to the unpaved Rancudo airfield on Pag-Asa Island in the Spratlys when it received a radio warning from the Chinese to stay away from the area.
The PAF pilot responded that the aircraft was flying in Philippine airspace.
Lorenzana downplayed the incident. “It’s already normal because each time our planes conduct resupply operations here they are challenged (by the Chinese),” he said.
“We replied that we are flying over Philippine territory,” Lorenzana later told reporters.
AFP spokesman Brig. Gen. Restituto Padilla said the Chinese told the Filipino pilots to stay away from Subi to avoid a miscalculation.
“As before, (the pilots) were once again challenged as they made their pattern of landing,” Padilla said.
From being merely a “seabed” in “international waters” under the United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), Subi Reef has metamorphosed into a bustling artificial island, with massive structures, a 3,000-meter runway, two ports, gun emplacements, and radar domes.
There were reports the Chinese have installed a missile defense system on the reef. Based on UNCLOS, there can be no territorial waters for features built on the seabed. Subi Reef is about 40 nautical miles from Pag-asa Island.
With Lorenzana and Año on the plane were Army commanding general Lt. Gen. Glorioso Miranda, Western Command (Wescom) commander Lt. Gen. Raul del Rosario, and other AFP officials and members of the media. The aircraft touched down at around 8 a.m. The DND chief attended a flag ceremony along with 45 military officials and personnel stationed on the island.
The group, with Palawan Gov. Jose Alvarez and representatives of the Bureau of Fisheries and Aquatic Resources (BFAR), toured the island.
On the West side of Pag-asa facing the West Philippine Sea, Lorenzana personally witnessed the presence from a distance of four to five Chinese Coast Guard ships.
In a statement, the Department of Foreign Affairs (DFA) said it welcomed efforts of the Department of National Defense and the AFP to secure Pag-asa Island.
“We defer to the DND and the Armed Forces on how best to fulfill their Constitutional mandates with respect to improving the safety, welfare, livelihood and personal security of Filipinos in the Palawan municipality of Kalayaan,” the DFA said.
‘Unsafe side’
Soldiers assigned on Pag-asa island told The STAR they call the Eastern side of the island the Philippine side and the Western part the “unsafe side” as they wouldn’t want to call it the Chinese side.
In remarks, Lorenzana assured government troops the administration of President Duterte and the AFP are looking after their welfare despite the Chinese menace.
The Chinese, he explained, “believe that this is theirs, they protest to say that they do not want what we are doing here.”
The Philippines maintains that the island group including Pag-asa is part of its territory, which Filipinos occupied as early as the late 1960s, and on which a runway was built in 1975.
“I don’t think I should give them any message. This is just a normal visit within our territory, we believe and we know that this is our territory and I am just visiting to look at the conditions of our people here,” Lorenzana said.
Reacting to China’s challenging the PAF’s flight over Subi, National Security Adviser Hermogenes Esperon Jr. said the administration takes seriously the Chinese action.
“We mind and we respond appropriately. We have our challenges and answers where protocols to be made if it is bad enough that that could be the basis for some note verbales,” Esperon said after President Duterte’s visit to Russian ship Varyag yesterday.
“A challenge is not something that is really positive. But a challenge could be just to identify yourself but it could also mean that you’re challenging because you think that’s your territory,” he added.
Asked if Duterte would go to Pag-asa island in the future, Esperon said: “In the future? Let me answer you that in the future.”
Pressed if the President would spend a night in the island, the national security adviser replied: “Why not? But not now.”
P1.6-B Pag-asa dev’t
Meanwhile, Loranzana also revealed the administration has set aside at least P1.6 billion to develop Pag-asa.
He said the building of a beaching ramp would be prioritized and hopefully done by July this year so that construction materials like gravel and cement as well as heavy equipment could be brought to the island by sea.
He told reporters in a press briefing that BFAR also intends to build a fish port in the area.
The government also wants to put up a radio station, an ice plant, water desalination facility, homes for soldiers stationed in the island, and put up a sewage system.
“We will develop this into a tourism area and marine research (facility),” Lorenzana said.
“These are our plans, the plans of the President and he said do it now and do not delay. That’s why we are here now,” he stressed.
“We’ve been here since 1971, and our flag has been planted way back in the 1970s. We were here first, the others just followed,” he said of the country’s claim on the Kalayaan Islands.
Lorenzana said the development of Pag-asa has long been delayed because of the arbitration case filed by the Philippines that resulted in a moratorium on the implementation of projects.
The DND chief said President Duterte’s treatment of China shows that he is just trying to develop friends around the neighborhood.
“China is the most powerful country in our neighborhood, economically and militarily, and we are trying to manage the issue and talk to them one-on-one bilaterally, settle this dispute in the South China Sea,” he said.
“I believe that the President is right in talking to the Chinese leadership on how to manage the issue here in South China Sea,” he added.
The second biggest island next only to the Taiwanese-occupied Itu Aba, Pag-asa is a fifth class municipality in Palawan exercising overall jurisdiction over the country’s regime of islands in the disputed Spratlys region.
Lorenzana’s trip to Pag-asa came only a day after reports came out about Chinese coast guards firing warning shots to drive a group of Bataan-based Filipino fishermen from Union Bank. The incident, which reportedly happened on March 27, involved Chinese coast guards securing the reclaimed Gaven Reef.
Philippine Coast Guard spokesperson Commander Armand Balilo confirmed receiving information about the Chinese harassment of Filipino fishermen around Union Bank.
He said a Chinese coast guard speedboat with guns and carrying seven personnel fired shots at the fishing boat Princess Johann, which is owned and operated by Dionisio Cabacungan.
The Chinese reportedly fired warning shots when the Filipino boat dropped anchor some two nautical miles from Union Bank. The crew panicked, cut off their anchor line and fled the area.
Balilo said they were not able to interview the fishermen as they had already returned to the sea. “We were only able to communicate with them via radio. But according to the boat captain, the Chinese Coast Guard did not directly fire shots at them,” he said.
Vietnamese and Chinese forces have already occupied most of the maritime features within the Union Bank, a wide body of submerged features right within the country’s 200-nautical mile exclusive economic zone.
Malaysia, Taiwan and Brunei also have overlapping maritime claims in the region. Only Brunei has no military presence in the areas it claims.
---end---
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2...se-challenge-philippines-defense-chiefs-plane
Maybe some can still see a benefit for China to sell ships and aircraft to this kind of Philippines, but I can't. After all, they are getting ships and planes from other places like Indonesia, South Korea, the US, and Japan.
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That China arms trade with foreign country, not for the money ... usually exchange with local strategic materials or international political support. One side China soon finish building artificial islands in SCS, one side BeiJing support Philippine weapons to against ISIS in their south islands ... BeiJing already got the goal in SCS why not make good friend with Philippine via gift some free weapons ? This called "Provide Timely Help". BeiJing don't need Philippine to pay for those weapons, just need Philippine support us on SCS issue.
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The Philippines doesn't support China in the South China Sea. There were other news articles about Duterte saying that he can't fight a war with China. In other words, he would if he had the strength. Openly saying things like this is a message to all the Filipino people that China is arm twisting them on the South China Sea issue.
About the US relationship with the Philippines, there are more Filipinos in the US than any other country by far. With that comes economic relations. A lot of Filipino family members in the US send money back to other family members still in the Philippines. The country is just really tight with the US. But while relations between the US and the Philippines have always been high, a recent change was the view towards Japan. Of course after the war, the Philippines had a very negative view of Japan, and this lingered on up to the 1980s. But their opinions of Japan started to improve. And now with new developments in the security relationship, the views towards Japan are almost as positive as with the US. There is also a growing Filipino population in Japan as well. How many Filipinos live in China?
http://www.pulseasia.ph/march-2017-...ries-and-internationalregional-organizations/
A war memorial honoring the American and Filipino soldiers that fought together against the Imperial Japanese during WW2. A valiant defense that made Japanese control of the Philippines take 2-3 months longer than they expected, thus delaying their entire operation southwards.
Wanting to kick the US out of the Pacific, including out of the Philippines, is truly selfish of the Chinese indeed.
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Yes, we know both U.S and Philippines have deeper relationship than China-Philippines ... but now China developing relationship with Philippines even provide arms. Although both had a bad time when China built artificial islands in SCS, there's no eternal enemy China is helping Philippines to against their enemy that ease both strained relations due to SCS issue.The Philippines doesn't support China in the South China Sea. There were other news articles about Duterte saying that he can't fight a war with China. In other words, he would if he had the strength. Openly saying things like this is a message to all the Filipino people that China is arm twisting them on the South China Sea issue.
About the US relationship with the Philippines, there are more Filipinos in the US than any other country by far. With that comes economic relations. A lot of Filipino family members in the US send money back to other family members still in the Philippines. The country is just really tight with the US. But while relations between the US and the Philippines have always been high, a recent change was the view towards Japan. Of course after the war, the Philippines had a very negative view of Japan, and this lingered on up to the 1980s. But their opinions of Japan started to improve. And now with new developments in the security relationship, the views towards Japan are almost as positive as with the US. There is also a growing Filipino population in Japan as well. How many Filipinos live in China?
http://www.pulseasia.ph/march-2017-...ries-and-internationalregional-organizations/
"There's no eternal friend, also eternal enemy" im glad to see BeiJing playing "a big stick, a carrot" mature diplomatic policy to deal with SCS issue. I believe China weapons will help us to win more friendships in this region, replace Made in US.
We can gift them free Made in China weapons and sell them Made in China products, both win their good friendships.
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Yes, we know both U.S and Philippines have deeper relationship than China-Philippines ... but now China developing relationship with Philippines even provide arms. Although both had a bad time when China built artificial islands in SCS, there's no eternal enemy China is helping Philippines to against their enemy that ease both strained relations due to SCS issue.
"There's no eternal friend, also eternal enemy" im glad to see BeiJing playing "a big stick, a carrot" mature diplomatic policy to deal with SCS issue. I believe China weapons will help us to win more friendships in this region, replace Made in US.
lol.....
It's quite dreaming to say you will replace made in US weapon (assuming this is what you said) to the one with Made in China, considering a lot of these made in US weapon acquired by Asian Nation were intended to use on Chinese Aggression.
There is a reason why even today, this moment, US arms deal are still going on in Philippine even with Duerte is in charge, the problem is that Duerte is only a figure head, it does not mean anything to Philippine, and to that end, they will always choose US as an allies than China.
There are no a big stick, a carrot for China in Philippine, in fact, there is only a big stick, and which used to force people to get into your way, that is the main reason there is a lot of Made in USA weapon in Asia to begin with. What China is doing is exactly what US is doing and done in the past, and then the US did more. And for that, it would be very hard for Filipino to change from made in US.
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Vietnamese and Philippines Navies playing sports together at Vietnam's Southwest Cay in the South China Sea. Maybe someday, the Chinese can join them there.
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MANILA -- Philippine and Vietnamese navies have been playing soccer, volleyball and tug-of-war games together on a South China Sea island, the latest get-together by two countries concerned by Chinese assertiveness in the disputed waters.
The two sides played in mixed teams on Thursday on Southwest Cay in the Spratly archipelago, the Philippine navy said, the third event of its kind since 2014 on an island held four decades ago by the Philippines, but now under Vietnamese control.
The games are among a series of exchanges between the two countries, quietly demonstrating their unity in the face of Beijing's expanding presence and signs of militarization of man-made islands in the Spratly chain.
Ariesh Climacosa of the Philippine Naval Forces West said the games showed how the two sides could get along and would trust and understand each other better.
Relations strengthened under the previous Philippine administration, leading to the signing of a strategic partnership in 2015, at a time when both countries were locked in fierce disputes with China and enjoying warm ties with the United States.
But ties have since become more uncertain, due largely to Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's decision to charm rather than confront Beijing, while also turning more hostile towards Washington.
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MANILA -- Philippine and Vietnamese navies have been playing soccer, volleyball and tug-of-war games together on a South China Sea island, the latest get-together by two countries concerned by Chinese assertiveness in the disputed waters.
The two sides played in mixed teams on Thursday on Southwest Cay in the Spratly archipelago, the Philippine navy said, the third event of its kind since 2014 on an island held four decades ago by the Philippines, but now under Vietnamese control.
The games are among a series of exchanges between the two countries, quietly demonstrating their unity in the face of Beijing's expanding presence and signs of militarization of man-made islands in the Spratly chain.
Ariesh Climacosa of the Philippine Naval Forces West said the games showed how the two sides could get along and would trust and understand each other better.
Relations strengthened under the previous Philippine administration, leading to the signing of a strategic partnership in 2015, at a time when both countries were locked in fierce disputes with China and enjoying warm ties with the United States.
But ties have since become more uncertain, due largely to Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte's decision to charm rather than confront Beijing, while also turning more hostile towards Washington.
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