Persian or Arabian Gulf? Iran, Saudi fight over name

[Serpentine]

If Qatar and UAE spend money to import artifacts from other nations to build fancy museums, then don't you expect they'll try to change a name by money just like they are trying to create some history for themselves?

I mean British-created 40 year old countries and their oldest one, Saudi Arabia, which is 84 years old, will do their best to buy some heritage for those desert wastelands, no matter how much scyscrappers they build in them.

And it was Gemal Abdel-Nasser who invented the name during height of Pan-Arab movement in late 50s, you may pay money to some people to use your invented name, but you can't bury the history behind it. That's why UN and +90% of newspapers and media in the world use the correct name.

Arabs can call it whatever they like.

 

[SALMAN F]

The pathetic Persians use the Arabic word "khaleej خليج" to name the gulf. They name it "Khaleej Fars خليج فارس". They probably don't know that the word "khaleej خليج" is a pure Arab tazi word. They should go back and find the lost word for a "gulf" in the ancient forms of Persian before the invasion of their best friend "Omar". They also do know, damn well, that the word "Fars" فارس is an Arabized pronunciation of the original word "Parsپارس".

So basically the name "Khaleej Fars خليج فارس" is half Arabized already.

When did omar invaded iran where was he in badr or ahud or al khandaq opppps he didn't even exist

The one who conquered iran was ali and his companions

 

[Falcon29]

The one who conquered iran was ali and his companions

Hey you're gonna upset Iranians.

 

[SALMAN F]

If Qatar and UAE spend money to import artifacts from other nations to build fancy museums, then don't you expect they'll try to change a name by money just like they are trying to create some history for themselves?

I mean British-created 40 year old countries and their oldest one, Saudi Arabia, which is 84 years old, will do their best to buy some heritage for those desert wastelands, no matter how much scyscrappers they build in them.

And it was Gemal Abdel-Nasser who invented the name during height of Pan-Arab movement in late 50s, you may pay money to some people to use your invented name, but you can't bury the history behind it. That's why UN and +90% of newspapers and media in the world use the correct name.

Arabs can call it whatever they like.

Gamal abdul Nasir said from the ocean to the persian gulf and he is one of the most famous arab leaders yet he admit it in his speech that the gulf is persian maybe the bediuans and Wahhabis will call him a majoosi since his wife was iranian

another egyptian said there was a song tell the arabs to unite from the ocean to the persian gulf

 

[OldenWisdom...قول بزرگ]

Historical name should trump ethnic pride. If Arabs of yesteryears didn't care then why contemporary Arabs who have nothing but oil and nationalism to show for be given credence.

 

[Full Moon]

If Qatar and UAE spend money to import artifacts from other nations to build fancy museums, then don't you expect they'll try to change a name by money just like they are trying to create some history for themselves?

I mean British-created 40 year old countries and their oldest one, Saudi Arabia, which is 84 years old, will do their best to buy some heritage for those desert wastelands, no matter how much scyscrappers they build in them.

And it was Gemal Abdel-Nasser who invented the name during height of Pan-Arab movement in late 50s, you may pay money to some people to use your invented name, but you can't bury the history behind it. That's why UN and +90% of newspapers and media in the world use the correct name.

Arabs can call it whatever they like.

Well, your logic is amazing, so Iraq was created in 1917 because that is when the Iraqi modern state was established. The Arabian Penenusla has been there for ever and the current states are political units that can come and go. In any event, refusing to use Persian Gulf and using Arabian Gulf instead was an amazing shot, which the Arabs didn't expect Persians to cry over that much. That name thing is where you find Persian Hezbollahis and L.A Persian athesits stand together in one line crying and regretting. The more you guys blame us for not using the name Persian Gulf, the more we insist on using Arabian Gulf. So please keep going.

 

[SALMAN F]

Hey you're gonna upset Iranians.

That's I'd fact because they say iranians hate omar because he invaded their lands but in reality it was ali who planned the battle of nihavand and he call for the destruction of the persian cities so that it can't fascinate the arab bediuan tribes

Malik al ashtar which considered one of Ali's loyalist followers fought in both al yarmouk and al qadisiya and the iranians have many places and university named after him
Malek-Ashtar University of Technology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Well, your logic is amazing, so Iraq was created in 1917 because that is when the Iraqi modern state was established. The Arabian Penenusla has been there for ever and the current states are political units that can come and go. In any event, refusing to use Persian Gulf and using Arabian Gulf instead was an amazing shot, which the Arabs didn't expect Persians to cry over that much. That name thing is where you find Persian Hezbollahis and L.A Persian athesits stand together in one line crying and regretting. The more you guys blame us for not using the name Persian Gulf, the more we insists on using Arabian Gulf. So please keep going.

All the international organizations call it persian nobody care about what you call it

That's prove that the iranians are not arab followers like the iranian nationalists say

 

[Full Moon]

I have always been hesitant to put a signature. From now on it is: "الخليج العربي".

 

[Serpentine]

Well, your logic is amazing, so Iraq was created in 1917 because that is when the Iraqi modern state was established. The Arabian Penenusla has been there for ever and the current states are political units that can come and go. In any event, refusing to use Persian Gulf and using Arabian Gulf instead was an amazing shot, which the Arabs didn't expect Persians to cry over that much. That name thing is where you find Persian Hezbollahis and L.A Persian athesits stand together in one line crying and regretting. The more you guys blame us for not using the name Persian Gulf, the more we insist on using Arabian Gulf. So please keep going.

Dude calm down, your whole reaction to this thread and issue is so hysteric. You can simply call it Camel Wolf or any other thing you want for all I care. And I see you have already changed your signature. I just love your reactions to threads like this, reminds me of my childhood, and many other kids' behavior.

I think I made it clear that I personally don't give a damn what Arabs call it in their own countries. The fact is, more than 90% of media, newspapers, institutions etc use the correct historical name, no matter how much you try to but a name for yourself with money.

About Iraq, you used the wrong example. Iraq is the home of oldest civilizations, it isn't filling its museums by paying money to import artifacts from other countries, it has enough history to show it to whole world, they don't need to pay money and lobby to change a 2500 year old of a Gulf or to import historical stuff for its museums. It wasn't a desert wasteland hundreds of years ago. Iraq has been a major settled civilization for thousands of years.

 

[Full Moon]

Dude calm down, your whole reaction to this thread and issue is so hysteric. You can simply call it Camel Wolf or any other thing you want for all I care. And I see you have already changed your signature. I just love your reactions to threads like this, reminds me of my childhood, and many other kids' behavior.

I think I made it clear that I personally don't give a damn what Arabs call it in their own countries. The fact is, more than 90% of media, newspapers, institutions etc use the correct historical name, no matter how much you try to but a name for yourself with money.

About Iraq, you used the wrong example. Iraq is the home of oldest civilizations, it isn't filling its museums by paying money to import artifacts from other countries, it has enough history to show it to whole world, they don't need to pay money and lobby to change a 2500 year old of a Gulf or to import historical stuff for its museums. It wasn't a desert wasteland hundreds of years ago. Iraq has been a major settled civilization for thousands of years.

Your tone has started to chnage to be less nuetral than what it used to be. So you can't endure taqiyya any longer as far as I can see. I am not sure by the way how can an aircraft (invented in 1903) will be a way to fake history. Also, no one is paying money to change the name of the Gulf. We use it offcially and that is it. Please show me who got money from us to accept using the name Arabian Gulf. You may not personally care, but your people do care. See below. This is a famous hotel in Tehran. Please see the level of pain and lack of confidence. At the hotel's gate they wrote "Persian Gulf".

 

[SALMAN F]

I have always been hesitant to put a signature. From now on it is: "الخليج العربي".

الخليج السومري الشيعي

Your tone has started to chnage to be less nuetral than what it used to be. So you can't endure taqiyya any longer as far as I can see. I am not sure by the way how can an aircraft (invented in 1903) will be a way to fake history. Also, no one is paying money to change the name of the Gulf. We use it offcially and that is it. Please show me who got money from us to accept using the name Arabian Gulf. You may not personally care, but your people do care. See below. This is a famous hotel in Tehran. Please see the level of pain and lack of confidence. At the hotel's gate they wrote "Persian Gulf".
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Because all of this barking about the gulf because iran is shia

 

[C130]

we call it the Persian Gulf. strongest country with the strongest Navy backing on that.

 

[Ryuzaki]

Interestingly it is called अरब की खाड़ी in Hindi(or Bay of Arabia)

 

[911]

Interestingly it is called अरब की खाड़ी in Hindi(or Bay of Arabia)

Are you sure talking about Persia Gulf and not Arabian Sea? Don't know Hindi names of these sea and rivers....

 

[Ryuzaki]

Are you sure talking about Persia Gulf and not Arabian Sea? Don't know Hindi names of these sea and rivers....

According to Google ,Arabian sea is अरब सागर and Persian Gulf is अरब की खाड़ी