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they did
they always do

the reassuring short bursts of MG1A3 followed and continued until Indians shut the fck up.
Good to hear. Mustve been even better for you to hear it as well

No artillery tho?
 
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but Indian military continued to snipe Kashmiri population along LOC on Pakistani side, even shooting them dead in the frontyards of their homes. shooting by Indians at school vans and passenger buses is regular occasion.

I , my self came under heavy machine gun fire, Maybe NSV ,by Indians back in 1996 while travelling on a local bus to forward Kahuta.
we were fortunate that the driver stopped the bus in time behimd a boulder and we all came off the bus and crawled into a natural trench covered with trees and stones.

we stayed there for like 3 hours and then resumed journey without headlights under starlight on a narrow bendy mountain road.

Is calling a uniformed soldier a terrorist not against the forum rules?
 
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"Freedom Fighters" are killing these soldiers since 1980s, and the result is zero. Because "freedom fighters " are not killing the right guys.


That's not what we are discussing here.

Anyways, these indian army guys went to hunt the "freedom fighters" down. What choice the "freedom fighters" have? Its either do or die for them, do you understand that?
 
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Good to hear. Mustve been even better for you to hear it as well

No artillery tho?
no .. none that day otherwise all civilian traffic would have stopped.
there was no mortar fire either that day.
those that are not aware, specially our Indian posters here thinking that their soldiers are defending their home land. these soldiers fire tracers at the fields of the Kashmiris and many times killed the people while they were harvesting corn or wheat., killing cattle and firing tracers into wheat bales is their favorite if they cant find a vehicle or person to shoot at.

people even dash from one house to another to get to cover. these people have been living in those homes for hundreds of years since the times of their ancestors and now they face Indian bunkers in the name of stopping infiltration.
Kashmir dont need Pakistani support or acknowledgement of UN or need the care of Arabs the atrocities of Indian occupation forces alone keeps the insurgency and the hatred against Indian state alive among the Kashmris.
 
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Aik zamana tha hamarai snipers LOC par head shots martai thai

Phir hum nai loc par gulab jamun exchange karnai ka faisla kar lia

Even now, our support to these freedom fighters is pathetic.

In Islamabad, you'll hear all kinds of excuses --- economic weakness, FATF fears, etc. All of this is f*cking nonsense. A creative country comes up with ingenious solutions to deal with this, not use external pressure as excuses to get its people killed by letting all external capability melt away.

I'd like to remind everyone that similar camps existed during our nuclear testing days. Many argued at length that sanctions would be devastating, etc. Thankfully, sense prevailed back then. THANK GOD our current military mindset did not exist back then.

It shocks and pains me that in a country like Pakistan, constantly under threat from a regional bully, there can be people who are not hawks! DOVES cannot deter the BJP's bloodlust. Wake the F up.
 
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Even now, our support to these freedom fighters is pathetic.

Pathetic?? Our support to kashmiri militancy simply doesn't exist. Whatever they are doing is on their own

We are not even asking Taliban to reign in TTP or else face complete economic boycott and blockade from our side

Pakistani military under Bajwa and Imran Khan is a joke

Yeh donon jaye to hi kuch change hoga. In k rehtai hoye to kuch nahi ho sakta. One is a general on extension who is more interested in everything except his own job. The other is a narcissist delusional goof who is all talk but no action
 
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Aik zamana tha hamarai snipers LOC par head shots martai thai

Phir hum nai loc par gulab jamun exchange karnai ka faisla kar lia
now we have become a barefaced/shameless PEACE-LOVING nation. if u know what i mean
 
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As per Imran Khan Riaz the journalist from GNN, in all these days of fighting, indian deaths and casualties are mounting big time while the indians haven't been able to kill a single freedom fighter as of yet.

this is gonna severely damage morale of the indian army, the indian army sainkis will be mentally unable to face the kashmiri freedom fighters with any level of confidence.

further more, the targetting killings and beheadings of nonkashmiri people in iiok has increased tenfold, no one wants to move from india to iiok now, everyone wants to keep their heads attached to their necks. some indians tried to take refuge in police stations and army camps but then eventually chose to leave iiok altogether when they saw that the indian forces can't even protect themselves (as we can see from the opening post), how the hell can they protect them?

things are only gonna go downhill from here for india.
 
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I am not feeling happy. Gharib ka bacha mara gaya. Khushi kaisi.
The real culprits are sitting in dehli and Gujrat.
The real culprits can only enforce their will...when these ghareeb ke bachay do the bidding on their behalf. It's not like those sitting in Dehli are gonna come and do it themselves. So while it's unfortunate...what other option is there for the ppl struggling for freedom? Should they wait around and let the massive amounts of Indian forces be there? Thinking that they are not the real culprits and only acting on orders?
 
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holy crap, it's like shooter first took physical measurements to make sure he is perfectly aligned center
 
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The real culprits can only enforce their will...when these ghareeb ke bachay do the bidding on their behalf. It's not like those sitting in Dehli are gonna come and do it themselves. So while it's unfortunate...what other option is there for the ppl struggling for freedom? Should they wait around and let the massive amounts of Indian forces be there? Thinking that they are not the real culprits and only acting on orders?
@Jazzbot all I see some kashmiris doing stone pelting. And then some freedom fighters doing some killings.
Is this the way to independence? I don't think so.
The real path to independence is the path of Vietnamese, the path of Afghans. Everyone should comeout with guns and start their action. Then it will make sense to kill govt servants and settlers.
But I see majority only doing stone pelting or rallying. That's it.
 
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@Jazzbot all I see some kashmiris doing stone pelting. And then some freedom fighters doing some killings.
Is this the way to independence? I don't think so.
The real path to independence is the path of Vietnamese, the path of Afghans. Everyone should comeout with guns and start their action. Then it will make sense to kill govt servants and settlers.
But I see majority only doing stone pelting or rallying. That's it.
So now ur stance has changed from "ghareeb ka bacha"? So u r not okay with one freedom fighter killing a "ghareeb ka bacha" but if the whole population comes out with guns and kills hundreds of "ghareeb ke bachay" that's okay?

Stop belittling a freedom movement. It's easy for ppl on the internet to provide commentary...but real freedom struggles in the face of oppression is filled with hardships. It takes mountains of courage to pick up a weapon against a mighty force. Self sacrifice comes relatively easy...many ppl would be willing to fight to the death if pushed into a corner...not caring for their own life...
...but consider that these ppl have families. A brave man who would be willing to pick up a gun...might back down bcuz he wouldn't want the police/army to harass, torture, abduct, rape his mother, sister, daughter, etc.

These ppl face atrocities daily...they face curfews and are forced to close shops(their livelihood)...in such conditions...resistance at any level...whether stone pelting or picking up a gun...all efforts are admirable...and shouldn't be looked down upon.
 
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