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DARPA never ceases to amaze. Though it seems like a waste of money.

Pentagon Chooses Two Companies to Build Flying Humvee
By Sharon Weinberger
Published August 30, 2010
Popular Mechanics

Flying Car News in the Army - The Pentagon's Flying Car - Popular Mechanics

Denver—The race to build the world's first flying military jeep just moved a step closer to the finish line. The Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has selected two companies to proceed with the next stage of its Transformer, known as TX—a fully automated four-person vehicle that can drive like a car and then take off and fly like an aircraft to avoid roadside bombs. Lockheed Martin and AAI Corp., a unit of Textron Systems, are currently in negotiations with DARPA for the first stage of the Transformer project, several industry sources told Popular Mechanics at a robotics conference here in Denver. DARPA has not announced the official winners yet.

It's unclear how many companies competed for the DARPA project, but the competition brought together an unusual mix of large defense companies with smaller aviation firms vying to build the vertical takeoff and landing craft. Perhaps most surprising—and for some competitors galling— is that DARPA selected a rotor-based aircraft for one of the two winning submissions. At an industry day held earlier this year, DARPA officials had initially said they weren't interested in a traditional rotary-wing aircraft, though they might consider a vehicle if the rotor was shrouded.

AAI's winning concept does not have a shrouded rotor, but it is also far from being a traditional helicopter. The company, which produces the Shadow unmanned aerial vehicle, is basing its proposal in part on the slowed-rotor/compound concept, a technology that uses rotor blades heavily weighted in the tips, or high inertia. The rotor provides lift on takeoff, and then as it gains speed, the rotor slows down and the wings provide lift.

Lockheed Martin has declined to detail any aspect of its submission, but those familiar with the Phantom Works project speculated that it might combine aspects of the company's Joint Tactical Light Vehicle, a follow-on to the Humvee, with a ducted fan propulsion system that it would use to fly.

The two companies are still a ways away from building flying Humvees; the first stage of the DARPA project is merely working on conceptual designs. The total funding available for Transformer is about $40 million.

Officials from both companies declined to comment on the record about the negotiations, and DARPA did not respond to request to comment.

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DARPA never ceases to amaze. Though it seems like a waste of money.

Pentagon Chooses Two Companies to Build Flying Humvee
By Sharon Weinberger
Published August 30, 2010
Popular Mechanics

Flying Car News in the Army - The Pentagon's Flying Car - Popular Mechanics

Denver—The race to build the world's first flying military jeep just moved a step closer to the finish line. The Pentagon's Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) has selected two companies to proceed with the next stage of its Transformer, known as TX—a fully automated four-person vehicle that can drive like a car and then take off and fly like an aircraft to avoid roadside bombs. Lockheed Martin and AAI Corp., a unit of Textron Systems, are currently in negotiations with DARPA for the first stage of the Transformer project, several industry sources told Popular Mechanics at a robotics conference here in Denver. DARPA has not announced the official winners yet.

It's unclear how many companies competed for the DARPA project, but the competition brought together an unusual mix of large defense companies with smaller aviation firms vying to build the vertical takeoff and landing craft. Perhaps most surprising—and for some competitors galling— is that DARPA selected a rotor-based aircraft for one of the two winning submissions. At an industry day held earlier this year, DARPA officials had initially said they weren't interested in a traditional rotary-wing aircraft, though they might consider a vehicle if the rotor was shrouded.

AAI's winning concept does not have a shrouded rotor, but it is also far from being a traditional helicopter. The company, which produces the Shadow unmanned aerial vehicle, is basing its proposal in part on the slowed-rotor/compound concept, a technology that uses rotor blades heavily weighted in the tips, or high inertia. The rotor provides lift on takeoff, and then as it gains speed, the rotor slows down and the wings provide lift.

Lockheed Martin has declined to detail any aspect of its submission, but those familiar with the Phantom Works project speculated that it might combine aspects of the company's Joint Tactical Light Vehicle, a follow-on to the Humvee, with a ducted fan propulsion system that it would use to fly.

The two companies are still a ways away from building flying Humvees; the first stage of the DARPA project is merely working on conceptual designs. The total funding available for Transformer is about $40 million.

Officials from both companies declined to comment on the record about the negotiations, and DARPA did not respond to request to comment.

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Not the best of ideas. I'd rather see DARPA spend the cash on a new stealth UCAV or the a orbital transport (you'll have true global deployment technology). I think Taliban with stingers are going to have a field day with this if they were deployed. This is only my opinion.
 
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Isn't this what helicopters are for?

It doesn't have the "shock and awe" potential of a Humvee suddenly transforming into a helicopter and flying out of a traffic jam. :azn:

@Thomas: Yeah I think the funding issue is probably the reason for the proposal. There is a remote possibility, however, that this thing might be kicking *** around the world 20 years from now on and the designers will probably point fingers at us non-believers and scream "I told you so".
 
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It doesn't have the "shock and awe" potential of a Humvee suddenly transforming into a helicopter and flying out of a traffic jam. :azn:

@Thomas: Yeah I think the funding issue is probably the reason for the proposal. There is a remote possibility, however, that this thing might be kicking *** around the world 20 years from now on and the designers will probably point fingers at us non-believers and scream "I told you so".

How's this for shock and awe...

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This'll have the Taliban crapping their pants.
 
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It would be easier & better to make a helicopter which can be driven on roads. Just give the drive train and either divert some system to temporarily divert power from rotors to the wheels or put an additional engine from humvee

A flying humvee would be equally hard to drive as a helicopter!!
 
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I am pretty sure it is the Superhind

I'm surprise they kept the troop transport capability.

Thomas do you know if the Hind can hover in place? or does it have to maintain a certain airspeed.
 
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It would be easier & better to make a helicopter which can be driven on roads. Just give the drive train and either divert some system to temporarily divert power from rotors to the wheels or put an additional engine from humvee

A flying humvee would be equally hard to drive as a helicopter!!

This does bring up a serious question:

Would the humvee-copter (cool name, huh :D) need two separate control systems or just one? I'd imagine that they probably need to get pretty creative if there is only one control system available.
 
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Wouldn't you need specialized pilot to drive the humvee? (assuming that the control is similar to helicopter) Lol maybe have this for special force unit or something.
 
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