Pentagon 2 | US building its 'Colonial Headquarter' in Pakistan?

[VCheng]

For the sake of argument, assuming you're right - how can you assure me that will always be the case?

It has been the case since 1947, and there is no reason to change. A stable Pakistan is in USA's interests.

 

[FaujHistorian]

List of countries the US "stabilized" :

• Syria 1949
• Iran 1953
• Guatemala 1954
• Tibet 1955–70s
• Indonesia 1958
• Cuba 1959
• Democratic Republic of the Congo 1960–65
• Iraq 1960–63
• Dominican Republic 1961
• South Vietnam 1963
• Brazil 1964
• Ghana 1966
• Chile 1970–73
• Argentina 1976
• Afghanistan 1979–89
• Turkey 1980
• Poland 1980–81
• Nicaragua 1981–90
• Cambodia 1980–95
• Angola 1980s
• Philippines 1986
• Iraq 1992–96
• Afghanistan 2001
• Venezuela 2002
• Iraq 2002–03
• Haiti 2004
• Gaza Strip 2006–present
• Somalia 2006–07
• Iran 2005–present
• Libya 2011
• Syria 2012–present

You've got to be really naive to assume the US is here to help us out of the goodness of their hearts

Didn't expect a good poster to spread one-sided ignorance.

S Korea, Japan, Germany, Taiwan, tec,. are all the countries that truly followed American way and look how they are the top economic powers.


Blaming basket case lazy @rses on USA is you know what?

you know that right?

 

[Infoman]

What school or madrassah did you go to.

Don't tell me the name, Just city

What school or madrassah did you go to.

Don't tell me the name, Just city

Pakistan is world famous for madrassah, Osama bin laden and Taliban so why are you talking

 

[FaujHistorian]

It has been the case since 1947, and there is no reason to change. A stable Pakistan is in USA's interests.

It was mutual in many more ways and such mutual benefit existed between the areas now called Pakistan long before 1947.

 

[VCheng]

It was mutual in many more ways and such mutual benefit existed between the areas now called Pakistan long before 1947.

Much of what happened before 1947 had more to do with the UK, but after 1947 it was a good story of bilateral ties for mutual benefit, no doubt.

What has happened over the last few years has tested that relationship, but it has far more to do with internal turmoil in Pakistan than any change in USA's position or policies to keep Pakistan stable.

 

[Infoman]

When someone builds a COLONIAL headquarters in your country that shows you are not as powerful as you project yourself to be. So you have in Pakistan now the Zionist controlled American army, the Taliban, al Qaeda and also on your border is a hostile India.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Much of what happened before 1947 had more to do with the UK, but after 1947 it was a good story of bilateral ties for mutual benefit, no doubt.

What has happened over the last few years has tested that relationship, but it has far more to do with internal turmoil in Pakistan than any change in USA's position or policies to keep Pakistan stable.

USA just took over the UK plans after WW2

 

[VCheng]

USA just took over the UK plans after WW2

I would beg to differ. The British Empire truly had a colonial mindset, USA does not.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

S Korea, Japan, Germany, Taiwan, tec,. are all the countries that truly followed American way and look how they are the top economic powers.

There are 31 countries on that list, and as you verify yourself, only about 4 of them enjoy healthy economies.

Besides, why do we need to accept the American way as the right way?

 

[FaujHistorian]

I would beg to differ. The British Empire truly had a colonial mindset, USA does not.

Take the word "colonial" out and Americans have the same plans about the globe

Different styles

Same goals

And there is nothing wrong in it from American pov

 

[Counter-Errorist]

It has been the case since 1947, and there is no reason to change. A stable Pakistan is in USA's interests.

China is a new player that could swiftly change that interest.

 

[FaujHistorian]

There are 31 countries on that list, and as you verify yourself, only about 4 of them enjoy healthy economies.

In a class of 40 students,

only 4-5 students are hard workers. The rest do not work and blame the school system (or worse discrimination)

Besides, why do we need to accept the American way as the right way?

Ask Chinese

 

[VCheng]

Take the word "colonial" out and Americans have the same plans about the globe

Different styles

Same goals

And there is nothing wrong in it from American pov

Consider the definition of the term "Colonialism":

"Colonialism is the establishment, exploitation, maintenance, acquisition, and expansion of colonies in one territory by people from another territory. It is a set of unequal relationships between the colonial power and the colony and often between the colonists and the indigenous population."

It clearly applied to the British Empire. Equally clearly it does not apply to US policies, specially with regards to Pakistan.

China is a new player that could swiftly change that interest.

Not at all. China will become integrated into the global system to its own benefits as an important player. Indeed, a stable Pakistan is in China's interest too.

 

[Counter-Errorist]

Not at all. China will become integrated into the global system to its own benefits as an important player. Indeed, a stable Pakistan is in China's interest too.

What I meant to say is, as Pakistan gets closer to China, US may very well need to destabilize Pakistan to reduce Chinese influence in the region.

 

[FaujHistorian]

Consider the definition of the term "Colonialism":

"Colonialism is the establishment, exploitation, maintenance, acquisition, and expansion of colonies in one territory by people from another territory. It is a set of unequal relationships between the colonial power and the colony and often between the colonists and the indigenous population."

It clearly applied to the British Empire. Equally clearly it does not apply to US policies, specially with regards to Pakistan.

Colony is when a power of time establish direct control. Like hiring a worker as an employee
But
Americans believe in hiring contractors.

Sure the British used employees
Americans now use contractors

But the job to be done remains the same

What I meant to say is, as Pakistan gets closer to China, US may very well need to destabilize Pakistan to reduce Chinese influence in the region.

Chinese are the biggest trading partner of USA
They own 4,000,000,000 worth of American dollars, bonds etc (plus gold)

you my brother are stuck in cold war era Commie thinking,

Yes Commies did not hold trillions worth of US assets

But Chinese do

So if Pakistan truly gets close to China, indirectly we will be getting close to America

hope you understand now

China is a new player that could swiftly change that interest.

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