Parts of exploded AIM-120 AMRAAM (27 Feb) revealed

[CrazyZ]

After multiple neutral third parties have concluded that an F16 downed a SU30 last year. IAF's troll army has to come out to spit any non sense to counter. Its hilarious.

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

So if an AMRAAM explodes near a fighter jet, or penetrates and then explodes, its wreckage will be spread over many kilometers? Is this what you are suggesting?

Yes, as the detonation (proximity or contact) would place many thousand feet up in the air causing pieces to spread over many km (basic physics).

 

[maverick1977]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1294850672462925824

It’s beating a dead horse by now but but after 1.5 years Pakistan still has not provided any evidence of ever hitting yet alone downing any MKI. The question becomes, why if Pakistan claimed to hit an MKI they did not release any evidence?
Even F-16.net was forced to admit that their source was only Alan Warnes (a journalist with extremely extremely close ties to PAF for many years)
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=57254&sid=4d6b2407eba5ac840c3211f2c80decfc

Even Alan Warnes admitted that his AFM article (Su-30 claim ) was entirely copied from PAF Kaiser Tufail blog.


So again, where is proof? It can’t be for “classified” reasons because even Americans often release proof of kills, or at the least the wreckage of kills claimed by America often is found. In Pakistan’s case not only have they not released any proof of anything but no wreckage has ever been found. We know the general area were the MKI was operating but no one found the wreckage, pilots or took video or photos.

So the MKI is 72’ in length, can hold up to 20,700lbs fuel, and can have a maximum take off weight of 76,000lbs but no wreckage? How does an aircraft that large just vanish? How would no one notice a fireball and smoke that would probably rise 500-1000+ feet? Is it a cover up? In that case why India did not cover up the MI-17 downing? India let hostile enemy civilians come up to the wreckage and even take photos. Ironically the MI-17 crashed only 250 metres outside an Indian paramilitary base, yet India could not and did not cover up the wreckage.

So to recap:

No HUD
No radar data
No satellite images of wreckage
No audio release of Indians acknowledging a downing
No identity of downed pilots
No tail number
No wreckage
No missing or dead fighter pilots
No smoke plumes or fireball
No photos of any kind
No videos
No witnesses
No acknowledgement from India (both officially or unofficially) of losing any MKI.

WOW !!! The proof is right there, it exploded based on the proximity fuze... how can you gather such small fragments? i tell you the answer, from the wreckage from your own SU30MKI.. Thanks for confirming PAF kill.


Can some expert explain, if the missile misses the target, will it still explode? or the proximity fuze will bring it as close as possible and it will explode?

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

After multiple neutral third parties have concluded that an F16 downed a SU30 last year. IAF's troll army has to come out to spit any non sense to counter. Its hilarious.

Name one neutral party.
Alan Warnes is the only one and he is not neutral.

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

WOW !!! The proof is right there, it exploded based on the proximity fuze... how can you gather such small fragments? i tell you the answer, from the wreckage from your own SU30MKI.. Thanks for confirming PAF kill.

Read post #18.

 

[Imran Khan]

now sale it in scrap yard 20 rupees per kg and recover some money of your loss

 

[wali87]

Also the AMRAAM crashed into the village of Chassana in Mamankote tehsil of Reasi district in Jammu division of the state of Jammu and Kashmir.
One villager was injured by the resultant explosion. Others villagers immediately informed the nearest police station whose cops rushed to the spot and sent the injured man to hospital and secured the wreckage. Soon officials of a nearby IAF unit visited the spot and took the AIM-120 wreckage into custody.
Later the wreck was brought to New Delhi by an IAF AN-32/HS-748.

Ohhh so that’s where your SU30mkiiimki went down after being hit by this AMRAAM. Indians embarrassing themselves again, nothing new

Anyhow apart from the same old lies and bullshyt in your post, you guys finally did reveal one thing. That too due to your pathetic media coordination and plannning. Lol

I mean it’s like ‘ ghar bumb se urh gaya and the owner showing pieces of the bomb and where it was made. guys ve got a bunch of junkies running your country.

Okay just forget everything and look at it from a third persons point of view unbiasedly for 2 seconds. It’s an absolute shame! If that doesn’t ring any bells in your head then your guys truly are lost.

Just goes on to show how controlled your media is and his autocratic your government is, even in this age of information that they’ve got your entire indian public believing a lie even after we shot down your mig.

 

[CrazyZ]

Read post #18.

That's an Indian government site. Anything on their can be doctored. Its not evidence.

 

[maverick1977]

Read post #18.

Multiple Amraams were fired ........ you know the answer, mixing up the fragments from missed Amraam with one that hit, small fragments.. Cant fool the experts.. Thanks for confirming PAF kill

 

[PakSword]

Yes, as the detonation (proximity or contact) would place many thousand feet up in the air causing pieces to spread over many km (basic physics).

1 - Indian claims can't be taken on the face value specially after the fact that they awarded Abhinandan even after seeing all four missiles.. So we don't know what the wreckage is to be honest.. and where was it found.. whether the parts being shown relate to AMRAAM or Su 30.

2 - Even if we believe for the moment, it's the missile, it's not the complete debris.

Your claim doesn't have any weight to be honest. I suggest you go through the threads on F-16dotnet how your newly registered members were trolled after one of your ex-serviceman published his crap investigative piece on the Medium.

Everything for you is a proof, while for others, it's far from it.

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

Multiple Amraams were fired ........ you know the answer, mixing up the fragments from missed Amraam with one that hit, small fragments.. Cant fool the experts.. Thanks for confirming PAF kill

As per PAF only one was fired.

 

[Jungibaaz]

This is not the full wreckage. Since you’ve displayed the back section of the AMRAAM that houses the rocket motor, I have to ask where is the front half? Between that and the back section lies the payload. Where’s the section containing the electronics assembly, seeker, etc? If you found the propulsion section (the one with the C-5 written), where’s the front guidance section? You can see them here.

Also, this is shows some parts of one AMRAAM, where are the rest? Your MKIs dodged five supposedly? And don’t say you can’t find them, you found this one so quickly one would assume that either the wreckage of all five should be easy enough to find, or that this is the one that hit the MKI hence you found it so fast and displayed the used casing.

 

[Amaa'n]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1294850672462925824

It’s beating a dead horse by now but after 1.5 years Pakistan still has not provided any evidence of ever hitting yet alone downing any MKI. The question becomes, why if Pakistan claimed to hit an MKI they did not release any evidence?
Even F-16.net was forced to admit that their source was only Alan Warnes (a journalist with extremely extremely close ties to PAF for many years)
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=57254&sid=4d6b2407eba5ac840c3211f2c80decfc

Even Alan Warnes admitted that his AFM article (Su-30 claim ) was entirely copied from PAF Kaiser Tufail blog.


So again, where is proof? It can’t be for “classified” reasons because even Americans often release proof of kills, or at the least the wreckage of kills claimed by America often is found. In Pakistan’s case not only have they not released any proof of anything but no wreckage has ever been found. We know the general area where the MKI was operating but no one found the wreckage, pilots or took video or photos.

So the MKI is 72’ in length, can hold up to 20,700lbs fuel, and can have a maximum take off weight of 76,000lbs but no wreckage? How does an aircraft that large just vanish? How would no one notice a fireball and smoke that would probably rise 500-1000+ feet? Is it a cover up? In that case why India did not cover up the MI-17 downing? India let hostile enemy civilians come up to the wreckage and even take photos. Ironically the MI-17 crashed only 250 metres outside an Indian paramilitary base, yet India could not and did not cover up the wreckage.

So to recap:

No HUD
No radar data
No satellite images of wreckage
No audio release of Indians acknowledging a downing
No identity of downed pilots
No tail number
No wreckage
No missing or dead fighter pilots
No smoke plumes or fireball
No photos of any kind
No videos
No witnesses
No acknowledgement from India (both officially or unofficially) of losing any MKI.

if only one was fired then why did you reward your Sqd

 

[PakSword]

Name one neutral party.
Alan Warnes is the only one and he is not neutral.

A couple of simple questions for you..

1 - When your Su 30s were busy saving their behinds from AMRAAMs, and your Abhinandan couldn't fire a single missile, the additional parachutes came from which plane?

2 - Your reported losses of Su-30 are 11 till now.. but your government was placing an order of 12 to replace the crashed one.. why an additional plane? Was your government planning to get a spare one just like cars have one spare tyre?

 

[F86 Saber]

We have the following information, but it is upto PAF to release it.

1. Launch parameters of AIM 120C being met, Fox 3 launch.
2. SU-30 Pilot announcing a lock on and taking evasive maneuvers, on RT.
3. Video of Blip of SU-30 disappearing from Radar.
4. Confirmation of "Hit" by the AMRAAM recorded by the onboard computer on the F-16.
5. Frantic calls on RT by the wingman and ground controller unanswered and subsequent exit by the wingman alone.

I don't know if we have visual confirmation and images of the downed SU-30 but this is proof enough that something happened to that SU-30.