Parts of exploded AIM-120 AMRAAM (27 Feb) revealed

[Tejas Spokesman]

if only one was fired then why did you reward your Sqd

That was for Abhinandan's wingman Squadron Leader Vyas who was also fired at by an F-16 but he evaded it by going cold. As the engagement happened inside Pak side territory, any missile wreck will most probably be inside Pakistan.

 

[dbc]

Yes except the fuel storage section and its parts which were destroyed completely by the blast.

This is an own goal by the Indians-it confirms a hit.

 

[PakSword]

This is not the full wreckage. Since you’ve displayed the back section of the AMRAAM that houses the rocket motor, I have to ask where is the front half? Between that and the back section lies the payload. Where’s the section containing the electronics assembly, seeker, etc? If you found the propulsion section (the one with the C-5 written), where’s the front guidance section? You can see them here.

Also, this is shows some parts of one AMRAAM, where are the rest? Your MKIs dodged five supposedly? And don’t say you can’t find them, you found this one so quickly one would assume that either the wreckage of all five should be easy enough to find, or that this is the one that hit the MKI hence you found it so fast and displayed the used casing.

They couldn't even find the black box of downed heli so quickly..

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

Your reported losses of Su-30 are 11 till now.. but your government was placing an order of 12 to replace the crashed one.. why an additional plane? Was your government planning to get a spare one just like cars have one spare tyre?

It's actually 10. The 11th incident which happened in Apr 2012 was a minor one (only nose wheel damage) and the Su-30 involved was repaired.
The order is 12 as the full year production rate of HAL is currently 12 for Su-30. So IAF ordered one whole year worth of capacity.

 

[TOPGUN]

Indians still having sleepless nights lolz get over it and move on man.

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

This is an own goal by the Indians-it confirms a hit.

This is actually just my personal assumption.

 

[PakSword]

This is an own goal by the Indians-it confirms a hit.

I didn't know our neighbors are that naive.

 

[Amaa'n]

That was for Abhinandan's wingman Squadron Leader Vyas who was also fired at by an F-16 but he evaded it by going cold. As the engagement happened inside Pak side territory, any missile wreck will most probably be inside Pakistan.

i thought Indian claim was that Sukhois were dodging AMRAAMs left & right, breaking the lock...if you read the patch, it says 'Dodgers" not Dodger

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

Also, this is shows some parts of one AMRAAM, where are the rest? Your MKIs dodged five supposedly? And don’t say you can’t find them, you found this one so quickly one would assume that either the wreckage of all five should be easy enough to find, or that this is the one that hit the MKI hence you found it so fast and displayed the used casing.

As per PAF only one was fired at Su-30s (maybe it is true).
Also that AMRAAM was easy to find as it crashed into a village injuring a man whereas the others could have crashed into the massive and uninhabited Pir Panjal range which is just 6-7 km from the village.

 

[PakSword]

It's actually 10. The 11th incident which happened in Apr 2012 was a minor one (only nose wheel damage) and the Su-30 involved was repaired.
The order is 12 as the full year production rate of HAL is currently 12 for Su-30. So IAF ordered one whole year worth of capacity.

Do you know the wording of your press (I assume they were quoting yoru government) that 11 crashed???

And if you have 10 crashed, then there are now two candidates of our hits.. you have already accepted multiple AMRAAMs were fired.

 

[Jungibaaz]

They couldn't even find the black box of downed heli so quickly..

Aye, none of it makes sense. They found one AMRAAM on the same day miraculously, the only way they’d find it so fast is if it were rammed up the tailpipe of a downed MKI.

1.5 years hence that is all they’ve found, not even the complete wreckage, and no sign of the other dodged amraams.

It’s clear, this is the amraam that got the MKI, the front section is still missing.

 

[Amaa'n]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1294850672462925824

It’s beating a dead horse by now but after 1.5 years Pakistan still has not provided any evidence of ever hitting yet alone downing any MKI. The question becomes, why if Pakistan claimed to hit an MKI they did not release any evidence?
Even F-16.net was forced to admit that their source was only Alan Warnes (a journalist with extremely extremely close ties to PAF for many years)
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=57254&sid=4d6b2407eba5ac840c3211f2c80decfc

Even Alan Warnes admitted that his AFM article (Su-30 claim ) was entirely copied from PAF Kaiser Tufail blog.


So again, where is proof? It can’t be for “classified” reasons because even Americans often release proof of kills, or at the least the wreckage of kills claimed by America often is found. In Pakistan’s case not only have they not released any proof of anything but no wreckage has ever been found. We know the general area where the MKI was operating but no one found the wreckage, pilots or took video or photos.

So the MKI is 72’ in length, can hold up to 20,700lbs fuel, and can have a maximum take off weight of 76,000lbs but no wreckage? How does an aircraft that large just vanish? How would no one notice a fireball and smoke that would probably rise 500-1000+ feet? Is it a cover up? In that case why India did not cover up the MI-17 downing? India let hostile enemy civilians come up to the wreckage and even take photos. Ironically the MI-17 crashed only 250 metres outside an Indian paramilitary base, yet India could not and did not cover up the wreckage.

So to recap:

No HUD
No radar data
No satellite images of wreckage
No audio release of Indians acknowledging a downing
No identity of downed pilots
No tail number
No wreckage
No missing or dead fighter pilots
No smoke plumes or fireball
No photos of any kind
No videos
No witnesses
No acknowledgement from India (both officially or unofficially) of losing any MKI.

are you seriously trying to prove all that metal scrap is this? is that all that remained of an AMRAAM?

 

[Tejas Spokesman]

i thought Indian claim was that Sukhois were dodging AMRAAMs left & right, breaking the lock...if you read the patch, it says 'Dodgers" not Dodger

Patches are always in plural.
For example No 27 sqn of IAF shot down two F-86s in 65 war and got Sabre Slayers patch but No.4 sqn which shot only one F-86 also got same Sabre slayerS patch

 

[PakSword]

Aye, none of it makes sense. They found one AMRAAM on the same day miraculously, the only way they’d find it so fast is if it were rammed up the tailpipe of a downed MKI.

1.5 years hence that is all they’ve found, not even the complete wreckage, and no sign of the other dodged amraams.

It’s clear, this is the amraam that got the MKI, the front section is still missing.

as @dbc has rightly pointed out.. one more own goal by Indians.. lol

 

[Jungibaaz]

As per PAF only one was fired at Su-30s (maybe it is true).
Also that AMRAAM was easy to find as it crashed into a village injuring a man whereas the others could have crashed into the massive and uninhabited Pir Panjal range which is just 6-7 km from the village.

So your airforce lied about the number of amraams dodged? Still, how did they find a dodged amraam in such short time? And if it was so easy to find, why one and a half year later have you not found the front guidance section and full wreckage? Your OP is just plain wrong, whole front casing is missing.