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Parts of exploded AIM-120 AMRAAM (27 Feb) revealed

if only one was fired then why did you reward your Sqd :undecided:
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how embarrasing, salvaging some pride... evven the pilots wearing this must be embarrased... shame on IAF...
As per PAF only one was fired.
if eel bad for you, doing your best to dodge the facts that even after 1.5 years your proofs validates PAF's story
 
Now hope at least now onward no PDFer will ever believe in the nonsense story of Flanker kill.... Thanks @Tejas Spokesman .....

Sure, meanwhile you keep believing abhi shot down an f-16 despite no evidence and despite us finding all his missiles with the wreckage, your MKIs supposedly dodged five amraams despite the bs laid bare in this thread, you intercepted the strike package making them miss despite us having footage of a directed miss + satellite imagery. Congrats, I hope all future engagements are as successful for you as this was.
 
After multiple neutral third parties have concluded that an F16 downed a SU30 last year. IAF's troll army has to come out to spit any non sense to counter. Its hilarious.:lol::lol::lol:
please show me one evidence , that a Su-30MKI was hit last year , I several times ask for evidence and only get this replay but never evidence that back it up
 
How India found such small components of AMRAAM in such a large area just overnight? Does it fell into the laps of Indian officials sitting in Delhi.


Whole frickin' NATO wasn't able to find Spanish AMRAAM which was fired over Estonia.

Raise alarms. It just validate the claim of SU-30 being strucked by PAF fired AMRAAM. That is why Indian was able to find AMRAAM's small components.


It’s beating a dead horse by now but after 1.5 years Pakistan still has not provided any evidence of ever hitting yet alone downing any MKI. The question becomes, why if Pakistan claimed to hit an MKI they did not release any evidence?
Even F-16.net was forced to admit that their source was only Alan Warnes (a journalist with extremely extremely close ties to PAF for many years)
http://www.f-16.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=57254&sid=4d6b2407eba5ac840c3211f2c80decfc

Even Alan Warnes admitted that his AFM article (Su-30 claim ) was entirely copied from PAF Kaiser Tufail blog.


So again, where is proof? It can’t be for “classified” reasons because even Americans often release proof of kills, or at the least the wreckage of kills claimed by America often is found. In Pakistan’s case not only have they not released any proof of anything but no wreckage has ever been found. We know the general area where the MKI was operating but no one found the wreckage, pilots or took video or photos.

So the MKI is 72’ in length, can hold up to 20,700lbs fuel, and can have a maximum take off weight of 76,000lbs but no wreckage? How does an aircraft that large just vanish? How would no one notice a fireball and smoke that would probably rise 500-1000+ feet? Is it a cover up? In that case why India did not cover up the MI-17 downing? India let hostile enemy civilians come up to the wreckage and even take photos. Ironically the MI-17 crashed only 250 metres outside an Indian paramilitary base, yet India could not and did not cover up the wreckage.

So to recap:

No HUD
No radar data
No satellite images of wreckage
No audio release of Indians acknowledging a downing
No identity of downed pilots
No tail number
No wreckage
No missing or dead fighter pilots
No smoke plumes or fireball
No photos of any kind
No videos
No witnesses
No acknowledgement from India (both officially or unofficially) of losing any MKI.
 
At the time, some one commented that Indians are waving a piece of AMRAAM missile like a rape victim waving a condom and shouting, ''i have been raped by this''....now after 16 months, Sameer Joshi delivers a dead baby.
There's no way on earth the Indians could have found all these pieces unless they were embedded in the victim.
To sum up the story, sorry for the language, but this was the most appropriate comment on the issue.

Did Pakistan showed pieces of miss fired spice 2000 on 26 Feb???...... NO
Did India showed pieces of AMRAAM with fucked up faces on 27 Feb???..... YES


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IAF should take revenge, Rapael a gia hay.. please come.. i remember sheikh rashids comment , “when driver drive foolishly, accidents happen” modi sarkar woton kee bhooki sarkar..
 
It is obvious 27th Feb 2019 have left deep scars on Indians and their egoistic, jingoistic, narcissistic Psyche.
They are turning in their graves , cannot rest, cannot do anything to wipe of the humiliations.

Imagine the level of humiliations if all 9 locked targets were taken out by PAF.
The Phrase "The hell has no fury" would have not described the outrage of the Indian nation, if that was to happened.
 
please show me one evidence , that a Su-30MKI was hit last year , I several times ask for evidence and only get this replay but never evidence that back it up
Kashmir situation is tense. Operational secrecy means that smoking gun evidence such as radar info that you desire will not be released publicly. Unfortunately the wreckage landed in India or this wouldn't be a debate.

I followed this incident like a hawk when it occurred. There was fog of war and confusion in the early reporting of this incident, but if you pull together the dots, its points to an SU-30 being downed. Both air forces claim 2 AC were downed (so this is probably true). There are number of ground based observers that saw a two seat AC get hit and the pilots eject. Second aircraft downed was a 2 seater. PAF doesn't have many two seat AC. SU-30 is a two seater.

3 PAF radars recorded the SU-30 going down. The firing AC, the AWACS and ground radar all show the SU30 track going down. This data will not be released due to operational secrecy.

IAF claimed a mig 21 shot an F-16. Lets analyze this. Americans counted all our F-16 and they were all present (they have no reason to be friendly to Pakistan, India is their strategic partner). Mig 21 wreckage had all its missiles, nothing was fired. So IAF claim is false. But why lie and claim an F-16 and not a mirage or JF-17 (that were the AC actually dropping the bombs). From a distance the SU-30 can look like an F-16 to unfamiliar observers on the ground. The IAF claims it shot down an F-16 to mask its SU-30 loss.

IAF also admits that SU-30's were fired on. They were the prey, not the hunter. If we assume that 2 AC went down that day (as claimed by both air forces) and the Indian claim that a mig 21 shot down an F-16 as false. That doesn't reflect well on the SU-30 chances.

Plus the look on the IAF chief face when he carrying the AMRAAM fragment during a press conference, not the face of victory. All the dots point to an SU-30 being shot down. Now numerous third parties are publicly confirming the kill.
 
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