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And surprisingly many still support these low life cheap politicians.
Parts of Army and ISI infected with cancer?
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And surprisingly many still support these low life cheap politicians.
and the victorious army of Allah still didn't forget how to treat the bloody civilians.
Consequences of questioning a major
Ahmad Noorani
Friday, May 27, 2011
ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad Airport Police on Tuesday night illegally detained a lady lecturer for the whole night just because she had a minor traffic argument with a Pakistan Army major who called the Military Police and ordered her arrest without any charge or FIR.
Waqar Nisar, Station House Officer of the Airport Police Station, where officials of the Pakistan Army forcibly kept the young lady lecturer for the whole night between Tuesday and Wednesday, told The News that it was the Military Police which ‘asked’ to keep the lady lecturer under arrest and initiate proceedings against her. The incident involved only a Pakistan Army regular officer Maj Tubbassim who was driving in an indecent and recklessness manner and overtook the car of the lady lecturer in a dangerous way. The lady lecturer stopped the car and protested which became a nightmare for her as she was ordered to be arrested and was taken to Police Station Airport.
Sources told The News that after media came to know about the incident on Wednesday morning and presence of Pakistan Army at Airport Police Station, some lady police constables were called to the police station.
“Yes, if some regular army official will quarrel with some civilian in boundary of a police station, that police station is the only legal authority to proceed and take any action allowed under law of the land,” said SHO Police Station Airport Rawalpindi. Waqar further said that he couldn’t utter the name as he didn’t remember but some Military Police officials had contacted him and visited his police station for the action against the lady.
When Waqar was asked under which law of the land he had kept a lady at his police station for the whole night without even registration of the FIR, Waqar simply smiled. “See army official have reached the spot,” Waqar said. Waqar further said that later the lady also gave a written application which was made part of the record. “But, in the morning both the parties agreed not to proceed further, so everything is closed now,” Waqar added.
When asked that after both sides gave application whether army officer Tabbassum also came to the police station or whether the lady was only kept in confinement, he replied that army officer had sent military police officials and he did not come himself.
Asked when the lady was kept at the police station for the whole night she obviously had agreed to go home silently because of immense pressure and treatment she got from Police, Waqar said that both parties took applications back so he couldn’t say anything regarding ‘pressure’.
Asked whether he was ashamed of what had happened at his police station and whether at any point he had the courage to stand against the illegal orders and let the woman go to her home in the night, he simply smiled again and pointed towards the army personnel.
Spokesman of the Pakistan Army and DG-ISPR and other members were approached by The News the whole day on Thursday but there was no response whatsoever despite sending of text messages.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=6282&Cat=13&dt=5/27/2011
Consequences of questioning a major
Ahmad Noorani
Friday, May 27, 2011
ISLAMABAD: The Islamabad Airport Police on Tuesday night illegally detained a lady lecturer for the whole night just because she had a minor traffic argument with a Pakistan Army major who called the Military Police and ordered her arrest without any charge or FIR.
Waqar Nisar, Station House Officer of the Airport Police Station, where officials of the Pakistan Army forcibly kept the young lady lecturer for the whole night between Tuesday and Wednesday, told The News that it was the Military Police which ‘asked’ to keep the lady lecturer under arrest and initiate proceedings against her. The incident involved only a Pakistan Army regular officer Maj Tubbassim who was driving in an indecent and recklessness manner and overtook the car of the lady lecturer in a dangerous way. The lady lecturer stopped the car and protested which became a nightmare for her as she was ordered to be arrested and was taken to Police Station Airport.
Sources told The News that after media came to know about the incident on Wednesday morning and presence of Pakistan Army at Airport Police Station, some lady police constables were called to the police station.
“Yes, if some regular army official will quarrel with some civilian in boundary of a police station, that police station is the only legal authority to proceed and take any action allowed under law of the land,” said SHO Police Station Airport Rawalpindi. Waqar further said that he couldn’t utter the name as he didn’t remember but some Military Police officials had contacted him and visited his police station for the action against the lady.
When Waqar was asked under which law of the land he had kept a lady at his police station for the whole night without even registration of the FIR, Waqar simply smiled. “See army official have reached the spot,” Waqar said. Waqar further said that later the lady also gave a written application which was made part of the record. “But, in the morning both the parties agreed not to proceed further, so everything is closed now,” Waqar added.
When asked that after both sides gave application whether army officer Tabbassum also came to the police station or whether the lady was only kept in confinement, he replied that army officer had sent military police officials and he did not come himself.
Asked when the lady was kept at the police station for the whole night she obviously had agreed to go home silently because of immense pressure and treatment she got from Police, Waqar said that both parties took applications back so he couldn’t say anything regarding ‘pressure’.
Asked whether he was ashamed of what had happened at his police station and whether at any point he had the courage to stand against the illegal orders and let the woman go to her home in the night, he simply smiled again and pointed towards the army personnel.
Spokesman of the Pakistan Army and DG-ISPR and other members were approached by The News the whole day on Thursday but there was no response whatsoever despite sending of text messages.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/TodaysPrintDetail.aspx?ID=6282&Cat=13&dt=5/27/2011
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Who Said that ?
hand me a gun please.. i cant take it anymore...
oh wait Altaf Husain , No Problem he is Retard
hand me a gun please.. i cant take it anymore...
oh wait Altaf Husain , No Problem he is Retard
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And you are off topic.. If you want to discuss Colonel Purohit, open a thread and I'm sure many will be more then interested to discuss it..
A little forum etiquette will help!!
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Ringing your hands in despair and just 'worrying' is not the answer. You need to act to set things right!! And this goes for both countries.
Exactly what the members in this forum were aggressively denying. Now even Pakistanis are saying the same thing.
Wake up Pakistan before you become a bigger liability to the whole world.
He has a right to his opinion & expressing it freely & peacefully, even if it is not true.
like how many?
the turn out ratio is no more than 35% in our elections and the funny thing is , around 40% votes in this 35% ratio turns out to be bogus as there's no record in Nadra. this so called 'political system' is bogus and has been imposed on Pakistani people by the world powers.
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MQM told US stop ignoring us
ID:139128
1/29/2008 13:36
Embassy Islamabad
CONFIDENTIAL
ISLAMABAD 000421
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/22/2018
TAGS: PREL, PGOV, PTER, PK
SUBJECT: MQM LOOKING FOR RESPECT
REF: ISLAMABAD 405 ISLAMABAD 281
Classified By: Anne W. Patterson, for reasons 1.4 (b)(d)
1. (C) Summary. The Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) based in Karachi appears to be transforming itself from a group of thugs to a service-based grass-roots political party. Expecting to win 20-25 seats in the upcoming National Assembly elections, MQM also sees itself as a potential kingmaker in formation of the next government. MQM wants some respect from the USG for its political development, secularism, and continued support for our policies. End Summary
2. (U) Ambassador, Consul General and Polcouns met January 25 with Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) mayor Mustafa Kamal and hosted MQM leaders Farooq Sattar and Haider Abbas Rizvi for dinner. Ambassador also met in Karachi with the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Co-Chairman Asif Zardari (Ref A), the American Business Council, Farooq Hassan, Chief Executive of the Management Association of Pakistan, and former President of the Supreme Court Bar Association Munir Malik (septel).
Young, Activist Mayor
3. (C) At age 36, Mustafa Kamal is a young mayor overseeing an ethnically diverse population of over 16 million people in a city with enormous infrastructure challenges (see also Ref B). Kamal proudly recounted his rise from modest middle-class roots through the MQM party structure. Upon election, he was told by MQM leader Altaf Hussain that he must be the mayor for all of Karachi, not just for MQM supporters. Kamal seems to have taken this advice to heart by providing basic water and sewer services to neighborhoods of the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and others who have long been neglected by their own parties leadership. Kamal boasted that Karachi now provides 68% of all GOP tax revenues.
4. (C) Kamal replaced the traditional revenue maker of a land selloff for the elite with new public-private partnerships that lease land to those willing to develop it to expand the citys tax base. He collected taxes dating back forty years by publishing the names of tax evaders, although he lamented that he had to give the revenue to the federal government before he received his share of collections. He pushed through development of new highways and overpasses to ease traffic congestion and razed houses that encroached on city property to expand public parks.
5. (C) Ambassador asked why Karachi had such a bad reputation despite infrastructure progress. Kamal said the PPP under Benazir Bhutto had embarked in the 1990s on a series of extra-judicial killings that exacerbated ethnic tensions in the city. MQMs popularity grew as the population increasingly wanted law and order and protection from violence. He claimed MQMs disciplined party organization and its practice of delivering services without discrimination was responsible for its growing electoral base. But the bad memories persist.
Dont Ignore Us
6. (C) Kamal noted that during the difficult 1990s, the U.S. never condemned the on-going human rights violations in Karachi. Ambassador said that there had been a perception that MQM was more of a criminal group than a political party, but that we had taken note of MQMs efforts to improve its image and its activities. Saying that the MQM was now popular and had an expanding power base, Kamal urged that the U.S. stop ignoring us.
7. (C) Sattar and Rizvi repeated that same please dont ignore us theme during dinner at the Consul Generals residence. They pointed out that MQM was avowedly secular and had repeatedly supported USG policy but was treated like a terrorist group. In fact, Sattar asked for USG assistance in convincing the Canadian immigration service to stop listing the MQM as a terrorist organization; Ambassador responded that we knew that the Canadian policy was affecting some asylum cases in the U.S. We would examine what might be possible on outreach to Ottowa on this question.
Post-Election Coalition
8. (C) Sattar both defended Musharraf and complained about the Pakistan Muslim Leagues (PML) continued dependence on feudal politics that the MQM has abandoned. He noted that MQM had supported Benazirs return, and Altaf Hussain was one of the first to offer Zardari condolences on her assassination. Still, he made it clear that MQM could work with either a PML- or PPP-led coalition government after the elections. He predicted that MQM would win 20-25 seats in Karachi, but agreed that plans to expand the partys base had been undercut by blame over the May 12 riots. Sattar admitted it was perhaps not wise to have organized a countervailing demonstration to the one organized for the former Chief Justice. But he argued (unconvincingly) that the decision not to intervene and stop the rioting would have caused additional violence. Sattar pointed out that 14 MQM party members had died in the violence that left approximately 40 dead.
Altaf Hussain Returns?
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9. (C) Kamal, Sattar and Rizvi all confirmed that Altaf Hussain had expressed an interest in returning to Pakistan, but this idea had been rejected by the party. They feared that another assassination attempt would be made and they would be left leaderless. Nevertheless, while leaving dinner, Sattar indicated that Hussain could, in fact, be induced to return with the right deal for inclusion in a coalition government. (Note: According to press reports, President Musharraf met with Hussain in London this week.)
The National Reconciliation Ordinance signed by Musharraf to give Bhutto and others immunity from prosecution reportedly benefited many MQM members; if Musharraf extends the NRO, this may increase Hussains willingness to return from self-imposed exile.
10. (C) Comment: Despite some continuing evidence of thuggery, MQM is making progress in emerging as a popular grass-roots political party, and it clearly is improving city life in Karachi. As Musharrafs visit to Hussain demonstrated, PML very much wants to keep MQM in its coalition corner. But the PPPs Zardari (Ref A) also believes a coalition with MQM would be possible. Like some of Pakistans other small parties, MQM also sees itself as a possible kingmaker in forming the next coalition government.
2008: MQM told US
ID:139128
1/29/2008 13:36
Embassy Islamabad
CONFIDENTIAL
ISLAMABAD 000421
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/22/2018
TAGS: PREL, PGOV, PTER, PK
SUBJECT: MQM LOOKING FOR RESPECT
REF: ISLAMABAD 405 ISLAMABAD 281
Classified By: Anne W. Patterson, for reasons 1.4 (b)(d)
1. (C) Summary. The Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) based in Karachi appears to be transforming itself from a group of thugs to a service-based grass-roots political party. Expecting to win 20-25 seats in the upcoming National Assembly elections, MQM also sees itself as a potential kingmaker in formation of the next government. MQM wants some respect from the USG for its political development, secularism, and continued support for our policies. End Summary
2. (U) Ambassador, Consul General and Polcouns met January 25 with Muttahida Quami Movement (MQM) mayor Mustafa Kamal and hosted MQM leaders Farooq Sattar and Haider Abbas Rizvi for dinner. Ambassador also met in Karachi with the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) Co-Chairman Asif Zardari (Ref A), the American Business Council, Farooq Hassan, Chief Executive of the Management Association of Pakistan, and former President of the Supreme Court Bar Association Munir Malik (septel).
Young, Activist Mayor
3. (C) At age 36, Mustafa Kamal is a young mayor overseeing an ethnically diverse population of over 16 million people in a city with enormous infrastructure challenges (see also Ref B). Kamal proudly recounted his rise from modest middle-class roots through the MQM party structure. Upon election, he was told by MQM leader Altaf Hussain that he must be the mayor for all of Karachi, not just for MQM supporters. Kamal seems to have taken this advice to heart by providing basic water and sewer services to neighborhoods of the Pakistan Peoples Party (PPP) and others who have long been neglected by their own parties leadership. Kamal boasted that Karachi now provides 68% of all GOP tax revenues.
4. (C) Kamal replaced the traditional revenue maker of a land selloff for the elite with new public-private partnerships that lease land to those willing to develop it to expand the citys tax base. He collected taxes dating back forty years by publishing the names of tax evaders, although he lamented that he had to give the revenue to the federal government before he received his share of collections. He pushed through development of new highways and overpasses to ease traffic congestion and razed houses that encroached on city property to expand public parks.
5. (C) Ambassador asked why Karachi had such a bad reputation despite infrastructure progress. Kamal said the PPP under Benazir Bhutto had embarked in the 1990s on a series of extra-judicial killings that exacerbated ethnic tensions in the city. MQMs popularity grew as the population increasingly wanted law and order and protection from violence. He claimed MQMs disciplined party organization and its practice of delivering services without discrimination was responsible for its growing electoral base. But the bad memories persist.
Dont Ignore Us
6. (C) Kamal noted that during the difficult 1990s, the U.S. never condemned the on-going human rights violations in Karachi. Ambassador said that there had been a perception that MQM was more of a criminal group than a political party, but that we had taken note of MQMs efforts to improve its image and its activities. Saying that the MQM was now popular and had an expanding power base, Kamal urged that the U.S. stop ignoring us.
7. (C) Sattar and Rizvi repeated that same please dont ignore us theme during dinner at the Consul Generals residence. They pointed out that MQM was avowedly secular and had repeatedly supported USG policy but was treated like a terrorist group. In fact, Sattar asked for USG assistance in convincing the Canadian immigration service to stop listing the MQM as a terrorist organization; Ambassador responded that we knew that the Canadian policy was affecting some asylum cases in the U.S. We would examine what might be possible on outreach to Ottowa on this question.
Post-Election Coalition
8. (C) Sattar both defended Musharraf and complained about the Pakistan Muslim Leagues (PML) continued dependence on feudal politics that the MQM has abandoned. He noted that MQM had supported Benazirs return, and Altaf Hussain was one of the first to offer Zardari condolences on her assassination. Still, he made it clear that MQM could work with either a PML- or PPP-led coalition government after the elections. He predicted that MQM would win 20-25 seats in Karachi, but agreed that plans to expand the partys base had been undercut by blame over the May 12 riots. Sattar admitted it was perhaps not wise to have organized a countervailing demonstration to the one organized for the former Chief Justice. But he argued (unconvincingly) that the decision not to intervene and stop the rioting would have caused additional violence. Sattar pointed out that 14 MQM party members had died in the violence that left approximately 40 dead.
Altaf Hussain Returns?
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9. (C) Kamal, Sattar and Rizvi all confirmed that Altaf Hussain had expressed an interest in returning to Pakistan, but this idea had been rejected by the party. They feared that another assassination attempt would be made and they would be left leaderless. Nevertheless, while leaving dinner, Sattar indicated that Hussain could, in fact, be induced to return with the right deal for inclusion in a coalition government. (Note: According to press reports, President Musharraf met with Hussain in London this week.)
The National Reconciliation Ordinance signed by Musharraf to give Bhutto and others immunity from prosecution reportedly benefited many MQM members; if Musharraf extends the NRO, this may increase Hussains willingness to return from self-imposed exile.
10. (C) Comment: Despite some continuing evidence of thuggery, MQM is making progress in emerging as a popular grass-roots political party, and it clearly is improving city life in Karachi. As Musharrafs visit to Hussain demonstrated, PML very much wants to keep MQM in its coalition corner. But the PPPs Zardari (Ref A) also believes a coalition with MQM would be possible. Like some of Pakistans other small parties, MQM also sees itself as a possible kingmaker in forming the next coalition government.
2008: MQM told US
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Exactly what the members in this forum were aggressively denying. Now even Pakistanis are saying the same thing.
Wake up Pakistan before you become a bigger liability to the whole world.
You are an idiot. Bottom line. If you believe that than you are truly one of the more "challenged" INDIAN I have ever seen. Now, go get your helmet and your crayons and go draw something mommy can put on the refrigerator.
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