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there are few things..to discuss

Ek tu PM ne aaj ye kaha ke documents JIT ko de diye hain..aur ye wohi documents hain jo pehle bhi SC main de chukay hain.. Iska matlab ..one thing is confirmed ke aaj ...as expected...ye koi additional documents de kar nahi aaya....jis ke liye JIT bani thee..

Secondly he said today ke mujh par sarkari corruption ka koi ilzaam nahi hai.. Ye humaray apnay businesses hain..jin ko uchaala jaa raha nai.. Do u ppl think tht advocate and pakora will/can buy this argument? Jaisy arsalan iftikhar aur nalik riaz ke case main end main ye hua tha..ke ye llgon ke aapis ka masla hai..so woh case commission ke baad bhi dismiss hogaya tha.. Can advocate and pakora use the same line here?

Lastly.. Aaj jo sirf 2 and a half hrs ka session hua hai.. Aap logon ko lagta hai ke PM ko dobara call kiya jayega?

Ek ye baat tu theek hai ke...hosakta hai ke woh kisi bhi question ka reply na karraha ho.. Lekin in se sirf 4 flats nahi balke doosri companies ke baaray main bhi tu interrogate karna tha..jo 40 companies hain... Sugar mills waghera bhi.. 2 and a half hr main ye sab kuch tu poocha nahi jaa sakta.. Aap logon ko lagta hai ke isay dobara bulaya jayega?

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Psychiatrist on body language of Nawaz Sharif @PakSword @QatariPrince

 
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Farah Sohail said:
@PakSword @QatariPrince @Zibago

there are few things..to discuss

Ek tu PM ne aaj ye kaha ke documents JIT ko de diye hain..aur ye wohi documents hain jo pehle bhi SC main de chukay hain.. Iska matlab ..one thing is confirmed ke aaj ...as expected...ye koi additional documents de kar nahi aaya....jis ke liye JIT bani thee..

Secondly he said today ke mujh par sarkari corruption ka koi ilzaam nahi hai.. Ye humaray apnay businesses hain..jin ko uchaala jaa raha nai.. Do u ppl think tht advocate and pakora will/can buy this argument? Jaisy arsalan iftikhar aur nalik riaz ke case main end main ye hua tha..ke ye llgon ke aapis ka masla hai..so woh case commission ke baad bhi dismiss hogaya tha.. Can advocate and pakora use the same line here?

Lastly.. Aaj jo sirf 2 and a half hrs ka session hua hai.. Aap logon ko lagta hai ke PM ko dobara call kiya jayega?

Ek ye baat tu theek hai ke...hosakta hai ke woh kisi bhi question ka reply na karraha ho.. Lekin in se sirf 4 flats nahi balke doosri companies ke baaray main bhi tu interrogate karna tha..jo 40 companies hain... Sugar mills waghera bhi.. 2 and a half hr main ye sab kuch tu poocha nahi jaa sakta.. Aap logon ko lagta hai ke isay dobara bulaya jayega?

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Psychiatrist on body language of Nawaz Sharif @PakSword @QatariPrince

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Merey director ne saari chhutti kharaab kardi..


Yeh mahir nafsiaat tou shokat khanum ka lagta hai. Lolllll
 
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PakSword said:
Merey director ne saari chhutti kharaab kardi..

Yeh mahir nafsiaat tou shokat khanum ka lagta hai. Lolllll
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@bold :lol::lol::lol::lol:

World call ne aaj mera bhi din kharab diya, loll

Rauf Klasra ka analysis bhi aaj dekha online.. He also says ke lagta hai ke JIT walon ne MS ki meethi goli khaanay se inkar kar diya hai.. MS JIT se offend ho kar aayr hain..unki body language se lag raha hai

JIT walay tu apna kaam sahi karrahay hain.. Asal dar tu advocate aur pakora kudge se hai.. Esp aaj NS ne media main jo line li hai..ke hum par sarkari corruption ka koi ilzam nahi..ye humaray apnay businesses hain.. I am afraid...ke advocate aur pakora judge..is argument se impress na hojayein aur accept na kar lein :(
 
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Agya NS aaj JIT ka samny?

Let us just pray that this one is not a staged event now, we cannot afford any more of those. NS going to JIT like this is making me uneasy really. :(
 
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Arsalan said:
Agya NS aaj JIT ka samny?

Let us just pray that this one is not a staged event now, we cannot afford any more of those. NS going to JIT like this is making me uneasy really. :(
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He had to appear before JIT.. He had no other choice...

What happened? Now when things are going in right direction..JIT acha kaam karrahi hai...so now u ppl are being pessimist... Jab ke pehle hum log hotay thay...... Ab tu optimist honay ka time aaya hai... Ab kia hogaya?
 
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Farah Sohail said:
He had to appear before JIT.. He had no other choice...

What happened? Now when things are going in right direction..JIT acha kaam karrahi hai...so now u ppl are being pessimist... Jab ke pehle hum log hotay thay...... Ab tu optimist honay ka time aaya hai... Ab kia hogaya?
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JIT had other choices!!

If you remember, i was always arguing with you, like FORCEING you to be optimistic. Ap log jb SC mein tha case tb sa aksar na umeed hoty they but i was always optimistic about it. NOw things are going in rigt direction, everything is falling in place so i just do not want it all to fall apart. JIT walay b insaan han, Pakistani han, PM ka sath jitnay zada din aesy exposed huay utna risk zada hota jai ga!!! Do ANYONE here thinks that NS will give up without a fight? I just do not want any JIT or SC guys to be part of that fight and if they have to be i want that to be kept to minimium possible time period so there is minimium possible pressure.

NS ak SS ka aesay chly aana JIT mein makes me a bit uneasy. JIT be Pakistani logon ke bni ha and yeh wohi idara han jin ko ap log galiaan dytay ni thaktay thy!!

@PakSword

NEED TO KEEP A BALANCE.
 
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Raheel Munir, Gov Sindh, Tareq Fatemi bhi....wah!!!

Shots after JIT :omghaha:

Cameraman to participants....

"Itna sannata kyoun hai bhai"



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Arsalan said:
JIT had other choices!!
JIT be Pakistani logon ke bni ha and yeh wohi idara han jin ko ap log galiaan dytay ni thaktay thy!!

@PakSword

NEED TO KEEP A BALANCE.
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@bold ... Pehli baat tu yeh hai ke gaaliyan dena meri aadat hai...na fitrat... Yes..i argued...many times..and forcefully argued my points Lekin i dont think ke main ne kisi ke liye personally itnay ziada derogatory words use kiye hon...ke usay gaaliyan dena kaha jaye.. Agar kiye hain..kabhi ..frustration main......hosakta hai ke mujh se ghalti hui ho... Aap mujhe meri woh posts point out kar dein... I will surely apologise..

Rahi SC ki baat.... Jb ye case chal raha tha...yes..i was negative..because of history of our SC..which never gave verdicts against NS or any powerful... Is liye bht dafa negatve hoti thee.. Ye bhi kaha ke mujhe nhi lagta ke koi result niklay ga....Lekin shayad aap ko yaad ho ke ..when i started reading Justice Khosa's book... I started to say..tht i have hopes from this man..and he seems to me to be a dignified man.. Main ne bhtt dafa kaha tha ke mujhe nahi lagta ke Justice Khosa kisi backdoor deal ka hissa banein ge.. I have hopes from him.. WHY? Kiun ke mera kisi bhi INSTITUITION ya kisi individual se koi personal grudge nahi raha... Har instituition ya individual ki history ki base par opinion form karti hun..jab mujhe lagta hai ke meri opinion ghalat thee.. I openly say so.. Main Justice Khosa ko nahi jaanti thee.. Unki book main unhon ne jo VERDICTS diye hain ya dechukay hain..unki basis par main ne apni opinion form ki thee.. Ke mujhe woh achay insan lagtay hain... And thankfully he proved my opinion abt him correct...

Regd advocate and pakora judge.. Unke remarks ki basis par hum ne opinion form ki thee... Jo unhon ne panama case main diye thay..and then tht opinion was reinforced/strengthened after their VERDICT... So now we have something solid to base our opinion on... Is wajah se unke baary main achi opinion nahi hai.. Iss ke bawajood..i have said few times.. And @PakSword can confirm..and testify ke main ne ye bhi kaha hai ..ke zuroori nahi..advocate aur pakora bikaao hi hon... Wh mujhe dil se patwari lagtay hain bas.. Isay gaaliyan dena kehtay hain?

Regd Justice Ijazul Ahsan..although he sided with advocate and pakora judge.. I have always maintained tht he seems to me to be a decent person... Bhtt dafa kahaa hai...ke mujhe is 3 member bench main agar kisi se umeed hai tu Justice Ijazul Ahsan se hai.. Athough he sided with advocate and pakora..but after knowing his detailed arguments in his verdict..we never badmouthed him.. Abhi bhi achay hi alfaz main zikr kartay hain unka.. Is se confirm hota hai ke hum kisi ke against itnay biased nahi hain ke logically sochna chor dein..ya koi cheez ya verdict pasand nahi aaya (tht he didnt disqualify him ) tu bas sirf buraiyyan hi karein... No..we didnt do tht

Regd JIT.. Bilkol.. Main bhtt depressed thee....jab JIT bani thee..aut panama verdict aaya tha.. I still stand by my earlier view ke main JIT ke openly against thee.. Tht was also based on history of our instituitions... But it was only when JIT members were selected...and we came to know abt their reputation..i started to calm down..and thought tht we should give them a chance...

Again it proves..ke main kisi instituition ya individual ke against nahi hun ...rather its only actions of those individuals or instituitions tht we are against..

Aur jo koi acha kaam karta hai....or if someone proves my (negatve) opinion abt someone wrong..then i happily accept tht..and openly appreciate tht person... Jab se JIT members ki achi reputation suni hai.. Main ne hamesha unhein appreciate kiya hai..

Regd MI and ISI members..in JIT ....Yes.. I again say tht initially i was apprehensive when they were included in this JIt..because of their presence in dawn leaks committee and the way tht matter was settled eventually.. But kal bhi kaha tha...tht i came to realise lTer tht they were not responsible for whT happened in dawn leaks..and tht such deals happen at the top.. And yesterday @Icarus shared more info regarding Brig Noman..i again apologised tht i was wrong abt him, and tht after coming to know abt him...i am extremely proud of him as a Pakistani.. Again proves...tht i have no personal grude against any individual or instituition.. Regd the same Brig Noman..on whose presence in JIT..i was apprehensive initially..when @Icarus shard info yesterday...i whole heartedly accepted my mistake..and apologised..

Now why i am hopeful abt this JIT..is again based on their ACTIONS..esp after knowing abt their reservations in SC.. We have come to know tht they are courageous ppl..who are not afraid of anyone..and doing their best as much as they can,, so this opinion is again based on their actions.. S now tht i have seen their conduct..i appreciate them a lot and will always respect these JIT members, no matter what the verdict of this case as..as we have never badmouthed abt Justice Ijazul Ahsan.. I believe tht uptil now, after seeing their conduct .....tht they are heroes, atleast for me..who should be praised rather than be doubted ..

Regd what u said ke JIT walay bhi insan hain.. NS will not go down without a fight.. I agree.. But dont u think...tht when we know this..JIT members didnt know abt it..when they were included in this JIT? They must have known this ..already..and yet they took up this challenge..is what makes me appreciate them even more.. They acted selflessly...without being bowed down by the threats and risks to their careers.. They are heroes for me already...and i will supoort them, in whatever they do now.. If they have called NS, or anyone else..they know the consequences already.. They are doing Jihad, in true sense.... If they think tht risks are too much for them...and its not worth it.. They can still excuse themselves..and trust me... .i will think they are justified and will never badmouth them, ever... Whatever they choose to do..i will appreciate them... Whatever they have done till now.. They are heroes for me already.. and even their resignation wont change tht..though i will be sad at their resignation...ofcourse.. But for Pakistan..tht due to the state of affairs..they had to resign..but will never badmouth or doubt them, or their intentions.. They are humans too, and have families, too... so they will be justified..in whatever they do.. Although i sincerely hope tht they continue till 60 days

Waisy...aap ne itni dafa humein criticise kiya ke hum bhtt negative hojatay hian...we never reacted the way u did... Yes..again i will say tht i countered your points with my arguments always forcefully.... lekin uss par bhi yeh kabhi nahi kaha ke aap uss ko galiyan detay thay..ya usko nahi... I expected better from you
 
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