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@Farah Sohail @Realistic Change @Dil Pakistan

Aap log yeh dekhain.. hans hans ke meri iftari bahir aanay wali hogaee.

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Nahi yeh kehna kafi mushkil hai abb unn ke liey bhi.. I think jis tarah JIT kaam kar rahi hai, burden of proof sara ka sara shareef family ke upar hai.. jabhi aaj SC ne kaha hai ke koi nahi aata tou utha ke le aao..

Koi kuch bhi kahay ... Main ye maannay ko tayyar nahi hun ke advocate PM ke against verdict dein ge.. Aaj bhi unhon ne sharif family ko relief denay ki bharpoor koshish ki hai...apnay remarks se..

Advocate shuru se aisy nahi hain.. PPP ke against kafi strict thay.. Iska matlab ke woh patwari hain..tu un se koi umeed rakhna fuzool hai, kisi bhi qism ki

Pakora judge par wohi baat fit hoti hai ke Baatein croron ki dukaan pakoron ki... Ya jo garajtay hian woh barastay nahi

Plus @PakSword we discussed there are so many interrupted points in this case; that even if one end is loose then it will be over. No need to fail them in all questions, failing even one question has direct impact on answer of other questions as they are ALL interrelated.

Do u think...Qatari will come here and record his statement in JIT?
 
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Koi kuch bhi kahay ... Main ye maannay ko tayyar nahi hun ke advocate PM ke against verdict dein ge.. Aaj bhi unhon ne sharif family ko relief denay ki bharpoor koshish ki hai...apnay remarks se..

Advocate shuru se aisy nahi hain.. PPP ke against kafi strict thay.. Iska matlab ke woh patwari hain..tu un se koi umeed rakhna fuzool hai, kisi bhi qism ki

Pakora judge par wohi baat fit hoti hai ke Baatein croron ki dukaan pakoron ki... Ya jo garajtay hian woh barastay nahi

Agar faisla 5 judges ne hi karna hai, tou bhhar main jaey meri taraf se Advocate..

By the way, what about your plan to meet Justice Khosa?
 
Agar faisla 5 judges ne hi karna hai, tou bhhar main jaey meri taraf se Advocate..

By the way, what about your plan to meet Justice Khosa?

Abhi mera Islamabad ka tu final hojaye plan... Abhi wohi nahi ho paa raha .final ...lekin agar ho bhi gaya ...Ramzan bhi tu hai..is se shayad kuch ziada mushkil bhi ho milna .... Pehle hi asan nahi hai... Koshish aur khwahish hai... Lekin hazaron khwahishein aisi ke har khwahish par dam nikley :( Bas duaa karein

Agar faisla 5 judges ne hi karna hai, tou bhhar main jaey meri taraf se Advocate..

Mera nahi khyal ke Justice Khosa aur Gulzar ab dobara bethein ge.. Faisla tu inn 3 judges ne hi dena hai..lekin shayd un 2 judges ke saath add hojaye
 
Correct - he has to.

The issue @PakSword pointed out was his possible disappearance.

This situation is very dangerous for these people and getting even more dangerous by the day. Just put yourself in the shoes of Saeed Ahmed and think if you would like to escape or disappear - specially when MI and ISI are part of this JIT and SC is in no mood to negotiate.

The best option these people had was that SC and this JIT only does a "topi drama" and the whole process is an eye wash. This is why these people celebrated on 20th April - after the SC verdict. They thought it will be another eye wash - it is not.
Well JIT has unlimited power and authority to call & ask anyone. If Saeed Ahmed is not coming up then JIT should have arrested him straight away rather than going to SC and asking for warrant for him.
 
8hrs to grilling start ... nail biting time ... :-)
 
I got the notice from JIT that made this creature {aloo mota, gunaloom, babloo} to appear before the JIT :lol:
If they were treated by all the institutions this way, they won't be here sucking our blood.
Agar IK nahi hoga tou phir yeh bhi nahi hongay..

Abhi Maryam Auranzeb ka bayan chal raha tha.. ke Khan sahib 10 saal purana record pesh nahi karsakay, kyunke dastyaab nahi tha.. aur hum se 30-40 saal purana record maang rahay hain...

I think IK ko disqualify karnay main koi mazaiqa nahi agar yehi qeemat hai Mian saanp ko disqualify karnay ki.. Main tou iss cheez ko accept karnay ko tayyar hun.. IK bhi tayyar hai..

Pakistan se barh kar koi nahi..



Kitnay ghantay ka roza chal raha hai aaj kal wahan?
Sahoor: 01:30 AM
Fatoor: 22:02 PM

I think IK ko disqualify karnay main koi mazaiqa nahi agar yehi qeemat hai Mian saanp ko disqualify karnay ki.. Main tou iss cheez ko accept karnay ko tayyar hun.. IK bhi tayyar hai..

Pakistan se barh kar koi nahi..

Again..looking for the dislike button to press least at a thousand times. BTW IK can't be disqualified despite NS pressure from both ends.
 
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Well JIT has unlimited power and authority to call & ask anyone. If Saeed Ahmed is not coming up then JIT should have arrested him straight away rather than going to SC and asking for warrant for him.

Absolutely.
 
I got the notice from JIT that made this creature {aloo mota, gunaloom, babloo} to appear before the JIT :lol:
If they were treated by all the institutions this way, they won't be here sucking our blood.

Sahoor: 01:30 AM
Fatoor: 22:02 PM



Again..looking for the dislike button to press least at a thousand times. BTW IK can't be disqualified despite NS pressure from both ends.

^ Me too - looking for dislike button!

IK played extremely well by making his pov clear where he placed the system strengthening over his personal self/goals - again; raising his stature as a statesman and chose rightly not be a "commercially professional" politician.

Pakistan is at the cusp of defining moment; with tons of responsibility on Judiciary; hope they will not fail us; again!
 
Panamagate case: Hussain Nawaz testifies before JIT

ISLAMABAD: Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif’s son on Sunday, appearing before the Joint Investigation Team tasked to investigate the Sharif family’s offshore firms and properties abroad, sought more time to record his formal statement.

Hussain Nawaz was grilled by the JIT which comprises financial experts, investigators and representatives from intelligence agencies.

According to reliable sources, the JIT apparently stressed by the accusations of ‘rigorous investigations’ levelled by PM’s cousin Tariq Shafi — who was probed for hours during last week by the probe team – did not indulge in lengthy questioning with Hussain and gave him two days, till May 30, to submit documents related to the investments and transactions made through British Virgin Islands-based firms Nielsen Enterprises Limited and Nescoll Limited.

Of the nearly 90 minutes that Hussain spent inside the Federal Judicial Academy, the secretariat of the JIT, some 30 minutes were wasted after the JIT members refused to allow Hussain’s lawyer Saad Hashmi to sit with him [Hussain] during the questioning process.

Hussain sought more time on three counts -– first, he [Hussain] was not sent a questionnaire before summoning him to record his statement; second, he has been summoned on a short notice of 24 hours, thus, not given enough time to prepare himself; and third, an application filed by him [Hussain] where he has challenged impartiality of two of the six members of the probe team is pending before the Supreme Court.

Insiders claim that Hussain was told by the JIT that he was not allowed to accompany anyone, including his counsel, while recording his statement and that if he [Hussain] needed so, then he should take permission from the Supreme Court in this regard.

Around 11 in the morning, Hussain along with his lawyer reached the academy. Before his arrival, PML-N leaders including Tariq Fazl Chaudhry, Daniyal Aziz, Hanif Abbasi, Islamabad Mayor Sheikh Ansar Aziz and few party workers reached the venue.

Hussain, while talking to the media, said if his lawyer was stopped from accompanying him then he would inform the media. Hussain complained that he had only been given less than one day to record his statement, as he received the JIT notice on Saturday.

“Neither have I been given any questionnaire nor informed about the modus operandi of the investigations,” Hussain lamented but added he would present his point of view before the JIT but in the presence of his counsel Saad Hashmi.

When asked if he would be comfortable to appear before a probe team whose composition he had already challenged, Hussain replied that the JIT had a legal value so far, as the Supreme Court had yet to hear and decide over his application about impartiality of two JIT members.

Hussain said he had been appearing before the JIT in line with the Supreme Court directions.
Following the short question-answer session with the media -– where Hussain skipped a number of questions posed by the media — he along with his lawyer headed for the JIT secretariat.

Outside the judicial academy, PML-N leaders were of the view that it would have been better if Hussain was summoned after a decision by the apex court on his application about the JIT members.

A reliable source confided to The Express Tribune that inside the academy, JIT members refused to question Hussain in the presence of his lawyer. After half-an-hour delay, Hussain agreed to go alone inside the room where the JIT members were sitting.

Hussain was questioned for less than an hour. After he left the venue, the mayor of Islamabad, Sheikh Ansar Aziz, however, claimed that Hussain has recorded his statement.

Hussain had already filed a five-page application with the Supreme Court in which he questioned impartiality of two JIT members and sought an appropriate action from the court over his allegations.

The three-judge bench will hear Hussain’s application on Monday (today). PML-N lead counsel Khawaja Haris will appear before the bench on behalf of Hussain Nawaz.

Hussain has expressed reservations about Bilal Rasool, a representative of the Securities and Exchange Commission of Pakistan (SECP), and Ahmer Aziz, a representative of the State Bank of Pakistan (SBP).

Panamagate case: Civil, military agencies submit names for JIT

Hussain was the second high-profile individual to have appeared before the probe body after PM’s cousin Tariq Shafi, who was thoroughly questioned by the JIT.

PTI Chairman Imran Khan has already said, “Not surprising to hear Hussain Sharif reluctant to appear before JIT. His father Nawaz Sharif could not play cricket without his own umpires.”

Meanwhile, Minister of State for Information and Broadcasting Marriyum Aurangzeb said: “The PML-N holds constitutional institutions of the country in high esteem.”

According to Radio Pakistan, Marriyum has said the appearance of the son of an elected prime minister before the Joint Investigation Team had substantiated the PML-N’s stance in this regard.

She said Hussain Nawaz could have avoided the JIT notice but he appeared before it, although he has expressed reservations over two members of the JIT in his petition filed in the apex court.

Also, the PTI expressed reservations over the way Hussain Nawaz appeared before the JIT, saying “he should be treated as an ordinary accused”.

PTI spokesperson Fawad Chaudhry termed ‘not logical’ the demand of the PM’s son that he would appear before the JIT in the presence of his lawyer.

Chaudhry said the presence of PML-N leaders, including a federal minister and mayor of Islamabad inside the judicial academy, was not appropriate.

“The PM and his sons should be treated as ordinary accused,” he said while appreciating the decision of the JIT to question President National Bank of Pakistan Saeed Ahmad. Ahmad was a central character in the Hudabiya Paper Mills scam.

Chaudhry said it was beyond comprehension why PML-N had been questioning the formation of the JIT, adding the PTI had no objection over it. He said soon the PM would appear before the JIT as an ordinary accused and it’s because of the long struggle of the PTI.

Meanwhile, it is learnt the JIT has started probing Rs1.2 billion Hudabiya Paper Mills scam of money laundering against Sharif family. The team has summoned incumbent CEO National Bank Saeed Ahmad for questioning on last Saturday.

According to Dar’s confessional statement, a foreign currency account of Saeed Ahmad, former State Bank deputy governor and current president of the National Bank of Pakistan, was used to deposit huge funds to obtain direct and indirect credit lines.

Legal experts say the JIT now seems to be moving in the realm of Hudabiya scam in view of the fact that Ahmad was summoned to record his statement.

Hussain is the second high-profile individual to appear before the probe body after PM’s cousin Tariq Shafi who was thoroughly questioned by the JIT.

In view of a recent directive from the Supreme Court that the JIT should conclude and complete its investigations within the allotted 60-day period, the JIT has been working even on weekends to meet the deadline.

Saiful Malook, who is the counsel in Asia Bibi’s case, said that legal practitioners and bar councils act does not permit an advocate to represent an accused during investigations.

“How was Hussain Nawaz allowed by the JIT to appear and consult his counsel during the investigation. Can lawyers from tomorrow participate accompany their accuse client to police station in investigation,” he further questioned.

https://tribune.com.pk/story/1421565/jit-refuses-allow-hussain-nawazs-counsel-assist-investigation/

@bold Mujhe aisa kiun lag raha hai ke aaj Hussain Nawaz..bench ke saamnay lawyer saath le janay ki permission maangein ge...and the bench would allow it? Us waqt SC ko yaad nahi aayega ke criminal investigation ke dauran lawyer nahi le jaa saktay? PTI ki investigations public karnay ki request tu reject kar do thee...advocate ne..but mujhe lag raha hai ke Hussain Nawaz ki atleast lawyer le janay wali request SC maan ley gi @PakSword @Guvera

Aisa nahi hoga, kisi JIT mein biyaan record karwanay ke liay lawyer allow nahi kia jata.
 
^ Me too - looking for dislike button!

IK played extremely well by making his pov clear where he placed the system strengthening over his personal self/goals - again; raising his stature as a statesman and chose rightly not be a "commercially professional" politician.

Pakistan is at the cusp of defining moment; with tons of responsibility on Judiciary; hope they will not fail us; again!

I have come to believe that IK is so sincere that he has divine help with him. He often gets criticized for his action and statements but later his decisions turn out to be just right. For example, when he called off the sit-in, not only his foes but even some friends criticized him and claimed it marks the end of his political career but now it is evident that indeed he made the best choice. Now, no one can call him an anarchist, immature and emotional. He has displayed his qualities of dedication and perseverance and established himself the only person standing in the way of the status quo. He is ushering in a new era of change through his statesmanship and resolute determination that no other political party, military or non-political agents could ever demonstrate.
 
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Ansar Abbasi (publishing it in Geo Groups papers) and Iftikhar Ahmed (pushing it everywhere) are trying their best to achieve what Absar Alam, and Najam Sethi achieved by firing on SCP by planting stories of supposed WhatsApp calls between Registrar SCP and Heads of SECP and SBP.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/207549-Tale-of-Whatsapp-caller-and-the-JIT

Govt., is in a hurry to pack up and fight it out in elections as long drawn legal battle has dampened the party cadres and revolt is knocking on the door as majority of MNAs are angry that they are being used as human shield for $harifs.

As politicians; $harifs are running out of options; and whatever viable options are left; are more of compromise ones and not the first choice ones; and with each passing day, lesser and less viable options will be left; they have to decide before JIT gets too close to decision.

Their only wild card now is; Noon league Reconciliation Order- NRO!
 
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Ansar Abbasi (publishing it in Geo Groups papers) and Iftikhar Ahmed (pushing it everywhere) are trying their best to achieve what Absar Alam, and Najam Sethi achieved by firing on SCP by planting stories of supposed WhatsApp calls between Registrar SCP and Heads of SECP and SBP.

https://www.thenews.com.pk/print/207549-Tale-of-Whatsapp-caller-and-the-JIT

Govt., is in a hurry to pack up and fight it out in elections as long drawn legal battle has dampened the party cadres and revolt is knocking on the door as majority of MNAs are angry that they are being used as human shield for $harifs.

As politicians; $harifs are running out of options; and whatever viable options are left; are more of compromise ones and not the first choice ones; and with each passing day, lesser and less viable options will be left; they have to decide before JIT gets too close to decision.

Their only wild card now is; Noon league Reconciliation Order- NRO!

Kitna beghairat aadmi hai yeh ansaar abbasi.. Abb tou kuchh bhi hua ho, judges ne yehi 2 names select kiey hain..
 
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