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Report without dissenting notes nahin, report without any notes.. Agar notes huay tou dissenting notes ko change nahi kia jasakta.. So they have to either put the notes, regardless they are dissenting or not, or don't put anything. They are going for the later option.

Report without dissenting notes..aur report without any notes...ek hi baat tu hai? Koi dissenting note ya koi bhi note na honay ka matlab yehi tu hai..ke kisi member ko koi ikhtelaf nahi hai, and every one in this committee agrees with the report...

So ye mukmuka hi tu hai... Govt tu pehle hi din se yehi chah rahi thee... Itna lamba khenchnay ki kia zuroorat thee? Ye report tu pehle hi din aajati....

Atleast dissenting notes hotay..tu baji ka naam tu aajata report main,,,aur future main baji ka political career khatam hojata...beshak saza na hoti... Ab koi bhi note na honay ka matlab yehi tu hoga...ke every one agrees with the report and clean chit to baji.. Future main bhi baji ko kisi qism ka koi khatra nahi hoga... Excellent..and this too, after almost six months.. Ye tu pehle hi din hojata.. Is se barh kar mukmuka kia hosakta hai?
 
My guess is they would not have released dawn leaks report if panama verdict was expected this week... just my guess
 
Report without dissenting notes..aur report without any notes...ek hi baat tu hai? Koi dissenting note ya koi bhi note na honay ka matlab yehi tu hai..ke kisi member ko koi ikhtelaf nahi hai, and every one in this committee agrees with the report...

So ye mukmuka hi tu hai... Govt tu pehle hi din se yehi chah rahi thee... Itna lamba khenchnay ki kia zuroorat thee? Ye report tu pehle hi din aajati....

Atleast dissenting notes hotay..tu baji ka naam tu aajata report main,,,aur future main baji ka political career khatam hojata...beshak saza na hoti... Ab koi bhi note na honay ka matlab yehi tu hoga...ke every one agrees with the report and clean chit to baji.. Future main bhi baji ko kisi qism ka koi khatra nahi hoga... Excellent..and this too, after almost six months.. Ye tu pehle hi din hojata.. Is se barh kar mukmuka kia hosakta hai?

I think it is a clever play by PA. Get the report out at least so that the government has no control over it anymore once it is public. And then let courts dig out everything else when case is launched against those accused in the report.

Commission report is not the end of this case, a court still has to review the report and evidence and sentence the accused. Courts can dig further in it if the accused plead innocent, that's when everything will come out in open.

Supreme Court, here comes Dawn Leaks to you ..
 
Report without dissenting notes..aur report without any notes...ek hi baat tu hai? Koi dissenting note ya koi bhi note na honay ka matlab yehi tu hai..ke kisi member ko koi ikhtelaf nahi hai, and every one in this committee agrees with the report...

Shayad samjha nahi paya..

I meant to say, the civilian reps have ignored some evidences provided by ISI and MI in the report only.. The evidences were not destroyed completely. So evidences are there, in the file..

Commission tou fazool ho hi gaya tha.. PA wants this to surface ASAP and this ignoring of evidences is allowed for the time being.. This is what I said sometime back ke kuchh cheezon pe ittefaq hogaya tha.. Iss ittefaq main PA ne yeh socha tha ke report tou aaye at least, baqi baad main dekh laingay.. Lekin phir PA ne aik position le li thi.. Abb PA ne phir wohi purani wali position li hai, just for the sake of issuance of report. Once it is out, the report will not be accepted by PA. Aur uss waqt Panama ke baad NS ki position bhi kafi kamzor hogi..

Anyway, govt. wants that the evidences are even not filed, in fact the evidences are destroyed.

Acha aik baat aur batata hun.. Kuchh evidences aisay hain, jin ki qanooni haisiat challenge karna buhat aasan hai... iss liey yeh kaam kia gaya hai.. ret judge sahib jo NS ke pithu bhi hain, unhon ne yeh masla uthaya hua tha pehlay din se.. He was looking at the qanooni side (technicality) only.. PM house said ke since evidences qanoon e shahadat pe poora nahi utartay tou inn ko peechay file se bhi nikala jaey.. woh nahi hosaka.. Report technicalities ko base bana kar tayyar ki gaee hai.. bass..
 
Shayad samjha nahi paya..

I meant to say, the civilian reps have ignored some evidences provided by ISI and MI in the report only.. The evidences were not destroyed completely. So evidences are there, in the file..

Govt pehle din se yehi chah rahi thee .. Release tu report hi honi hai...file nahi..civilian representatives aur govt pehle hi din se yehi chah rahay thay..to ignore ISI and MI's report... Yehi horaha hai ab

Commission tou fazool ho hi gaya tha.. PA wants this to surface ASAP and this ignoring of evidences is allowed for the time being.. This is what I said sometime back ke kuchh cheezon pe ittefaq hogaya tha.. Iss ittefaq main PA ne yeh socha tha ke report tou aaye at least, baqi baad main dekh laingay.. Lekin phir PA ne aik position le li thi.. Abb PA ne phir wohi purani wali position li hai, just for the sake of issuance of report. Once it is out, the report will not be accepted by PA. Aur uss waqt Panama ke baad NS ki position bhi kafi kamzor hogi..

Aisi report ke aanay se...report ka na aana behtar hai... Panama verdict tak intezar kar letay aur uss ke baad dissenting notes ke saath release kartay.. Ab jab itna wait kar hi liya tha..tu ab report jaldi release karnay ki kia emergency hogayi ke bas...report aajYe..chahy without dissenting notes? Yeh wohi horaha hai..jo govt chahti thee.. Report agar without dissenting notes aagayi..aur ISI aur MI ke members kr bhi signatures huay..tu phir army kis tarah uss report ko accept nahi karay gi? Army ko uss report ko accept karna hi paray ga.....esp jab ISI aur MI ne sign kar diye

Anyway, govt. wants that the evidences are even not filed, in fact the evidences are destroyed.

Acha aik baat aur batata hun.. Kuchh evidences aisay hain, jin ki qanooni haisiat challenge karna buhat aasan hai... iss liey yeh kaam kia gaya hai.. ret judge sahib jo NS ke pithu bhi hain, unhon ne yeh masla uthaya hua tha pehlay din se.. He was looking at the qanooni side (technicality) only.. PM house said ke since evidences qanoon e shahadat pe poora nahi utartay tou inn ko peechay file se bhi nikala jaey.. woh nahi hosaka.. Report technicalities ko base bana kar tayyar ki gaee hai.. bass..

Evidence file main hi hamesha reh jayein ge... Yehi govt chahti hai.. Aur agar dissenting notes ke saath report aati aur baji ka naam aajata..... Tab bhi tu baji ko kon sa saza honi thee? Sirf naam aajata baji ka.... Tu qanoon e shahadat par poora utarnay ki zuroorat hi nahi nahi... Sirf naam aana zuroori tha, jo ab nahi aaraha..aur yehi govt ki jeet hai... Dissenting notes ka aana zuroori tha, jo ab nahi aarahay
 
I think it is a clever play by PA. Get the report out at least so that the government has no control over it anymore once it is public. And then let courts dig out everything else when case is launched against those accused in the report.

Commission report is not the end of this case, a court still has to review the report and evidence and sentence the accused. Courts can dig further in it if the accused plead innocent, that's when everything will come out in open.

Supreme Court, here comes Dawn Leaks to you ..

Memo gate main tu commission report bhi aagayi thee... SC main case bhi chal raha tha... Tab bhi kia hogaya?

Baji ka naam har haal main dissenting notes main aana zuroori tha..taakay political nuqsan pohanchta ..baji ko.. Lekin ab ye nahi honay jaa raha... Govt pehle hi din se yeh chah rahi thee..jo ab honay jaa raha hai

Hona kuch nahi hai...is case main.. Sirf baji ka naam dissenting notes main aana chahye tha....lekin ab aisa bhi nahi honay jaa raha
 
Shayad samjha nahi paya..

I meant to say, the civilian reps have ignored some evidences provided by ISI and MI in the report only.. The evidences were not destroyed completely. So evidences are there, in the file..

Govt pehle din se yehi chah rahi thee .. Release tu report hi honi hai...file nahi..civilian representatives aur govt pehle hi din se yehi chah rahay thay..to ignore ISI and MI's report... Yehi horaha hai ab

Commission tou fazool ho hi gaya tha.. PA wants this to surface ASAP and this ignoring of evidences is allowed for the time being.. This is what I said sometime back ke kuchh cheezon pe ittefaq hogaya tha.. Iss ittefaq main PA ne yeh socha tha ke report tou aaye at least, baqi baad main dekh laingay.. Lekin phir PA ne aik position le li thi.. Abb PA ne phir wohi purani wali position li hai, just for the sake of issuance of report. Once it is out, the report will not be accepted by PA. Aur uss waqt Panama ke baad NS ki position bhi kafi kamzor hogi..

Aisi report ke aanay se...report ka na aana behtar hai... Panama verdict tak intezar kar letay aur uss ke baad dissenting notes ke saath release kartay.. Ab jab itna wait kar hi liya tha..tu ab report jaldi release karnay ki kia emergency hogayi ke bas...report aajYe..chahy without dissenting notes? Yeh wohi horaha hai..jo govt chahti thee.. Report agar without dissenting notes aagayi..aur ISI aur MI ke members kr bhi signatures huay..tu phir army kis tarah uss report ko accept nahi karay gi? Army ko uss report ko accept karna hi paray ga.....esp jab ISI aur MI ne sign kar diye

Anyway, govt. wants that the evidences are even not filed, in fact the evidences are destroyed.

Acha aik baat aur batata hun.. Kuchh evidences aisay hain, jin ki qanooni haisiat challenge karna buhat aasan hai... iss liey yeh kaam kia gaya hai.. ret judge sahib jo NS ke pithu bhi hain, unhon ne yeh masla uthaya hua tha pehlay din se.. He was looking at the qanooni side (technicality) only.. PM house said ke since evidences qanoon e shahadat pe poora nahi utartay tou inn ko peechay file se bhi nikala jaey.. woh nahi hosaka.. Report technicalities ko base bana kar tayyar ki gaee hai.. bass..

Evidence file main hi hamesha reh jayein ge... Yehi govt chahti hai.. Aur agar dissenting notes ke saath report aati aur baji ka naam aajata..... Tab bhi tu baji ko kon sa saza honi thee? Sirf naam aajata baji ka.... Tu qanoon e shahadat par poora utarnay ki zuroorat hi nahi nahi... Sirf naam aana zuroori tha, jo ab nahi aaraha..aur yehi govt ki jeet hai... Dissenting notes ka aana zuroori tha, jo ab nahi aarahay


Waisay itna pareshan na hon.. buhat soch samajh ke horaha hai jo kuchh bhi horaha hai.. There is no compromise, this I can tell you..

Jahan hum sab ne itna intezaar kia hai wahan thora aur sahi.. yeh shatranj ki chaalain hain... chaar paanch chalon ke baad samajh aayegi ke kia hona tha aur kia hua.. Ya jo hua sahi hua..
 
Waisay itna pareshan na hon.. buhat soch samajh ke horaha hai jo kuchh bhi horaha hai.. There is no compromise, this I can tell you..

Jahan hum sab ne itna intezaar kia hai wahan thora aur sahi.. yeh shatranj ki chaalain hain... chaar paanch chalon ke baad samajh aayegi ke kia hona tha aur kia hua.. Ya jo hua sahi hua..

Iska aur memogate ka fate ek hi hai... Bas abhi tak yehi samajh aaya... Iska hona kuch nahi.. Saza tu baji ko nahi honi thee...ye t pehle se pata tha.. Bas chahtay ye thay..ke kisi tarah dissenting notes main naam aajaye baji ka...taakay future political career khatam hojaye... Ek dafa report aajaye aur baji ka naam na aaya tu isay baji ko clean chit milna hi samjhein
 
Sirf dawn leaks report aanay se kia hoga? Pata chalay..ke shahzadi sahiba ka naam report se bilkol hi nikaal diya...aur dissenting notes bhi na huay.....tu report aanay ka koi faida nahiii..... Balke mukmuka hoga
i think the only asending/dysending notes in this commission are
quaid e azam waly notes
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Memo gate main tu commission report bhi aagayi thee... SC main case bhi chal raha tha... Tab bhi kia hogaya?

Baji ka naam har haal main dissenting notes main aana zuroori tha..taakay political nuqsan pohanchta ..baji ko.. Lekin ab ye nahi honay jaa raha... Govt pehle hi din se yeh chah rahi thee..jo ab honay jaa raha hai

Hona kuch nahi hai...is case main.. Sirf baji ka naam dissenting notes main aana chahye tha....lekin ab aisa bhi nahi honay jaa raha

Rocking the boat of this filthy democracy then was probably a big factor then. Langri looli democracy ko chalana tha, maybe that's why establishment let that pass. Internal security was even a bigger issue than including an ongoing Swat operation etc. But it is not finished, Haqqani's statement is going to haunt Zardari in times to come.

Now the situation and circumstances are very different. All sympathies for PPP and PMLN have gone and judiciary is showing proper unbiased teeth as well.

Maryam will get done in Dawn leaks ... ISI and MI will disclose full evidence to the court when the time comes and from what we've heard so far, Maryam is deep in this.
 

Buhat mushkil hai..

Hamza ban jaega shayad.. Yeh bahir jaegi.. Apnay london flat main..

Iska aur memogate ka fate ek hi hai... Bas abhi tak yehi samajh aaya... Iska hona kuch nahi.. Saza tu baji ko nahi honi thee...ye t pehle se pata tha.. Bas chahtay ye thay..ke kisi tarah dissenting notes main naam aajaye baji ka...taakay future political career khatam hojaye... Ek dafa report aajaye aur baji ka naam na aaya tu isay baji ko clean chit milna hi samjhein

Baji izzat se apnay piya ghar sudhaar jaey, chahay london main hi kyun na ho.. yeh nahi chahteen aap shayad..

Safdar duaein dega.. aap dua karain baji apnay piya des sudhaar jaey.. Abhi tou bechara khud attock main rehta hai, baji, apnay abbay ke ghar.. Abba apni amma ke ghar, amma apnay shohar ke ghar.. aur shohar inn sab ko chhor kar bilkul apnay walay ghar...


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Over 90 years ago, British colonial rulers enforced the Official Secret Act, 1923, to keep their pre-partition Indian subjects oblivious to government’s actions. Even after Pakistan gained independence and threw off the yoke of colonialism, it nevertheless adopted this draconian law.

Under this archaic act – still enforced in the country – almost any piece of information can be declared secret or classified without any formality or explanation, which is contrary to the constitutionally-guaranteed right to information of citizens.

The government is free to declare any information “confidential” as the law does not describe any guidelines as to who, why or how a document is labelled secret


Even if a section officer scribbles the word “secret” on some document, that paper is considered classified.



Moreover, the parliament, too, can be denied access to any ordinary information on this pretext.

Last month, the Senate adopted a resolution calling for amendment to this act. The resolution moved by Pakistan Peoples Party senator Farhatullah Babar was adopted unanimously on February 3 but no further action has been taken so far to change the law according to today’s needs.

If a person even by mistake enters the premises where a signboard of “prohibited area” is displayed, he or she can undergo 14 years of imprisonment. According to Section 3 of the Act, if any person approaches, inspects, or even sketches a ‘prohibited place’, they can be penalised.

Moreover, if anyone “obtains, collects, records or publishes or communicates any secret official code or password, or any sketch, plan, article or note” to any other person, which could be directly or indirectly useful to an enemy, he or she shall be guilty of an offence.

The next clause of the same section states that a person can be charged even on suspicion. “Notwithstanding that no such act is proved against him, he many be convicted if, from the circumstances of the case of his conduct or his known character as proved, it appear that his purpose was a purpose prejudicial to the safety or interests of the State,” reads Section 4.

Similarly, there are many other vague provisions in this law that clearly violate fundamental rights of citizens guaranteed under the constitution.

Communication with foreign agents

Clause four of the same act is even more intriguing – your meeting with a foreigner or diplomat can land you in prison. Section 4 deals with the communication with ‘foreign agents’, which is also considered an offence against the state as “a person may be presumed to have been in communication with a foreign agent if he has, either within or without Pakistan visited the address of a foreign agent or consorted or associated with a foreign agent, or either within or without Pakistan, the name or address of or any other information regarding a foreign has been found in his possession, or has been obtained by him from any other person”.

The foreign agent is defined as “any person who is or has been or in respect of whom it appears that there are reasonable grounds for suspecting him of being or having been employed by a foreign power, either directly or indirectly”. Almost every diplomat or an employee of any foreign company can be classified as a foreign agent under this definition.

Even if a visiting card of a foreign diplomat is found in a person’s possession, the person can be charged under this law.

Harsher punishments for govt officials

Since there is no set criterion to declare a document classified, any government official can be in hot water under Section 5 if found ‘guilty’ of communicating with any foreign power and passes any ‘secret’ information to them.

In case of information labelled ‘most sensitive’, the violator may face a death sentence or 14 years in prison

even from this 1923 act. peopel can escape? nawaz and co?
only in pakistan my dear
only in pakistan
 
Baji izzat se apnay piya ghar sudhaar jaey, chahay london main hi kyun na ho.. yeh nahi chahteen aap shayad..

Baji....,piya ghar sudhaar kar jab 5 saal baad apnay maiky wapis aayegi......aur humari future PM banay gi...aap aur baqi sab shayad yehi chahtay hain....:angry::angry:.....aur phir sab baji ko salute karein ge...tab aur bhi dil khush hoga.:angry:... Waisy i think army deserves this..... They should be saluting baji in the future

Hamza ka PM banna tu bhool jayein... Hamza PM nahi bannay walay... Baji ke abba jiii...kabhi kabhi hamza ko kisi soorat nahi bannay dein ge...
 
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