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And what did i say that was unacceptable to you? Islam promotes the process of debate and consultations.
Why do people when they hear the word 'Democracy' simply put on their Gay Wedding Hats all of a sudden.
There is more to life than these mere shenanigans.

I think that i was clear what was wrong in your statement ... democracy and islam are totaly opposite systems ... democracy means majority is right and can do whatever they want whereas islam clearly defines right and wrong and political system has to follow even if 99% is against it ...
Regarding example of gay if you dont like it then leave it ... there are lot of other examples like interest is halal in pakistan , thanks to your democracy ...
 
is all this followed in pakistn?


and yeh i am very happy for you since you are eating the fruit of this democracy in pakistan



In an Islamic democracy , the leader is obliged by the Quran to run the affairs of the people using ‘Shura’ (consultation). He is elected based upon confidence to lead, not on his policies, because he is obliged to derive laws based upon the Quran and Sunnah – and has no option to not implement the clear laws contained therein, even if not convenient for government, which provides full protections for people’s rights at all times.

In a modern (Western) secular Democracy, the leaders are not obliged to consult the people in running the affairs (nor fulfil their promises). They derive laws from what is convenient, and may (and do) take away people’s rights using that justification (e.g. ‘its for security…’ or ‘the majority want it against you and the minority’).


In Islam, the leader remains in power until he becomes unjust or incompetent.
In a modern (Western) secular Democracy, the leader remains in power despite being unjust or incompetent, and may get elected again if he can lie to the people to persuade them he is the lesser of two evils.

In an Islamic State, the leader’s position is secure, and can’t be bullied, controlled or bossed around by corporations, lobby groups and rich businessmen – and so remains independent to pursue his conscience.
In a modern (Western) secular Democracy, the leader is dependent on money from corporations, lobby groups and rich businessmen, to fund his re-election campaigns, and fund his party.

Islam protects your rights, even when its not convenient.
modern (Western) secular Democracy gives you your rights, until its not convenient.

Islam demands rulers seek your opinion, and not make false promises and lies to get your vote every four years.
In a modern (Western) secular Democracy, the leaders seek your vote, not your opinion.



and finally,

An Islamic State is based upon sovereignty to the Creator, who doesn’t change his mind, it not prone to prejudice, bigotry or ignorance.
A modern (Western) secular Democracy, is based upon sovereignty of the Individual, who does change their mind, is prone to prejudice, bigotry and ignorance.

Who would you like to rule you?

Pakistan is neither a democracy nor islamic rule ... its a autocracy of few families ...

You have summarized it well and ofz there is no system beter than one designed by the One and Only ...
 

Nahi... Mera nahi khyal... SC ne agar commission banaya bhi tu....woh tu commission apnay terms of refence par banayeg gi na... SC usay khud powers dey gi...jaisy pichlay bench ne bhi kaha tha... Uska time frame...aur powers SC sab kuch khud decide karay gi....aur us commission main kon kon hoga..... Esp NAB chairman ke statement ke baad...ab SC khud hi decide karay gi commission ga... Tu new ya purany law se kuch farq nahi parta...

Abhi tu yeh bhi nahi pata ke commission ka kaam kia hoga, agar SC ne banaaya..sirf documents ko verify karna...ya kuch aur?

Tu mera nahi khyal ke faisla ..is liye delay horaha hai.... Aur waisy bhi faisla kiya aana hai......ye tu sirf judges ko pata hai

Ye governemnt jaan boojh kar...sources ke through aisi news de rahay hain aur feelers de rahay hain ke hum tu bhtt naik/ achay hain... Hum tu har cheez ke liye tayyar hain.. Hum tu commission ke liye bhi tayyar hai..uske liye apni tayyari bhi kar li hai, blah blah..law bhi ammend kar diya... Aur bas... SC ke faisla ka is se talluq nahi hai.. Obviously agar SC commission banayegi bhi tu apnay TORs dey gi, uske liye
 
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I think that i was clear what was wrong in your statement ... democracy and islam are totaly opposite systems ... democracy means majority is right and can do whatever they want whereas islam clearly defines right and wrong and political system has to follow even if 99% is against it ...
Regarding example of gay if you dont like it then leave it ... there are lot of other examples like interest is halal in pakistan , thanks to your democracy ...

If what you say is true then Qaid-e-Azam was wrong about 'Islamic Democracy' and what he said about Islam and Democracy (not this liberal secular democracy).

Parliamentary democracy, in my opinion, is not compatible with Islam. We need Presidential Democracy, one man elected directly by public through count of 'bayte'.
 
Panama decision to be announced tomorrow alhamdulillah
 
Nahi... Mera nahi khyal... SC ne agar commission banaya bhi tu....woh tu commission apnay terms of refence par banayeg gi na... SC usay khud powers dey gi...jaisy pichlay bench ne bhi kaha tha... Uska time frame...aur powers SC sab kuch khud decide karay gi....aur us commission main kon kon hoga..... Esp NAB chairman ke statement ke baad...ab SC khud hi decide karay gi commission ga... Tu new ya purany law se kuch farq nahi parta...

Abhi tu yeh bhi nahi pata ke commission ka kaam kia hoga, agar SC ne banaaya..sirf documents ko verify karna...ya kuch aur?

Tu mera nahi khyal ke faisla ..is liye delay horaha hai.... Aur waisy bhi faisla kiya aana hai......ye tu sirf judges ko pata hai

Ye governemnt jaan boojh kar...sources ke through aisi news de rahay hain aur feelers de rahay hain ke hum tu bhtt naik/ achay hain... Hum tu har cheez ke liye tayyar hain.. Hum tu commission ke liye bhi tayyar hai..uske liye apni tayyari bhi kar li hai, blah blah..law bhi ammend kar diya... Aur bas... SC ke faisla ka is se talluq nahi hai.. Obviously agar SC commission banayegi bhi tu apnay TORs dey gi, uske liye

Pata nahi.. yeh jaldi jaldi commission ke baray main bill par dastkhat kyun huay hain.. Panama faislay ke aanay se 5-7 days pehlay..

Panama decision to be announced tomorrow alhamdulillah
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Pata nahi.. yeh jaldi jaldi commission ke baray main bill par dastkhat kyun huay hain.. Panama faislay ke aanay se 5-7 days pehlay

Yeh bas inki apni wishful thinking hai ke hum aisy karlein tu yeh hojayega, woh hojayega.. Aur apnay aap ko acha portray karna..ke dekhein hum tu itnay achay hain..humaray dil main koi chor nahi...hum sab karnay ko tayyar hain

Warna sab ko pata hai ke SC commission banayegi tu apnay TORs dey gi...

Aur waisy bhi faisla kiya aana hai.....ye tu sirf 5 judges ko pata hai
 
one man elected directly by public

Not by everyone, only few learned people, who are well known for their taqwa..

Hamara mulk jabhi tou peechay hai.. har aik banda tou vote daalta hai.. aik Aalim deen ka vote, aik Phd doctor ka vote aur aik an parh ka vote barabar..

Yeh bas inki apni wishful thinking hai ke hum aisy karlein tu yeh hojayega, woh hojayega.. Aur apnay aap ko acha portray karna..ke dekhein hum tu itnay achay hain..humaray dil main koi chor nahi...hum sab karnay ko tayyar hain

Warna sab ko oata hai ke SC commission banayegi tu apnay TORs dey gi...

Aur waisy bhi faisla kiya aana hai.....ye tu sirf 5 judges ko pata hai

IK and PTI ke stance main tabdeeli dekhi aaj? IK ne bhar bhar ke tareef ki hai.. RS ki..

IMAFT pe bhi dheela hogaya hai stance..
 
IK and PTI ke stance main tabdeeli dekhi aaj? IK ne bhar bhar ke tareef ki hai.. RS ki..

IMAFT pe bhi dheela hogaya hai stance..

Lolll.... Waqayi... Aaj tu IK ne Ary par bhtt tareef ki... Aur sab se bara joke yeh ke Shireen Mazari also criticised Zubair Umar on twitter, loll... Dil tu mera chah raha tha ke aaj bhi reply karun shireen mazari ko..ke bibi 2 din pehle aap ne bhi tu yehi kaha tha, lolll

Waisy dono parties , PML N aur PTI, ek se barh kar ek hain.. Dono hi roz bongian maartey hain.. Aaj Governor Sindh ne... Dono ek doosre ki stupidities ko cover kar lete hian, us se bari bongi maar kar, lolll...
 
Lolll.... Waqayi... Aaj tu IK ne Ary par bhtt tareef ki... Aur sab se bara joke yeh ke Shireen Mazari also criticised Zubair Umar on twitter, loll... Dil tu mera chah raha tha ke aaj bhi reply karun shireen mazari ko..ke bibi 2 din pehle aap ne bhi tu yehi kaha tha, lolll

Waisy dono parties , PML N aur PTI, ek se barh kar ek hain.. Dono hi roz bongian maartey hain.. Aaj Governor Sindh ne... Dono ek doosre ki stupidities ko cover kar lete hian, us se bari bongi maar kar, lolll...

Actually, Shireen Mazari aur Naeem ul Haq ki theek thaak durgat bani hai..

Mere khayal main msg chala gaya tha PA ki janib se ke bhaee yeh apnay logon ko sambhalain..

IK ne acha kia ke khud aakar tareef ki.. This is what I was expecting in the afternoon when I said aik khabar confirm hogi tou dunga.. lolll
 
Actually, Shireen Mazari aur Naeem ul Haq ki theek thaak durgat bani hai..

Mere khayal main msg chala gaya tha PA ki janib se ke bhaee yeh apnay logon ko sambhalain..

IK ne acha kia ke khud aakar tareef ki.. This is what I was expecting in the afternoon when I said aik khabar confirm hogi tou dunga.. lolll

Waqayi hosakta hai ke party ne durgat banayi ho, in dono ki....tab hi tu aaj Shireen Mazari, who said similar thing 2 days ago, criticised Zubarir, loll

Waisy unn becharay PTIans ka ab kiya hoga...jo bhar bhar kar Raheel Sharif ko bura bhala keh rahay thay..twitter par? Riyal Sharif aur pata nahi kiya kya keh rahay thay... Ab unn becharon ka kiya hoga, jab IK ne RS ki tareef kar di, lolll..
 
Not by everyone, only few learned people, who are well known for their taqwa..

Hamara mulk jabhi tou peechay hai.. har aik banda tou vote daalta hai.. aik Aalim deen ka vote, aik Phd doctor ka vote aur aik an parh ka vote barabar..

That's been tried and failed.

Public needs to vote.

Selection of the candidates who can stand should be made after a thorough vetting by every institution (that should be completely independent). Those who get complete clearance should be allowed to contest in a completely structured manner (debates etc).

And there should be no political parties.
 
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