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1 - PM is disqualified on 62 and 63, and criminal investigation of money laundering is transferred to a commission with all the powers of NAB/ FBR/ FIA.
2 - PM is suspended, and criminal investigation of money laundering is transferred to a commission with all the powers of NAB/ FBR/ FIA. No mention of 62 and 63, or no declaration.
3 - PM is neither suspended nor disqualified, but is declared dishonest. A criminal investigation of money laundering is transferred to a commission with all the powers of NAB/ FBR/ FIA. Petitioner is asked to contact EC for disqualification.
4 - PM is acquitted on the basis of not enough conclusive evidence. But a criminal investigation of money laundering is transferred to a commission with all the powers of NAB/ FBR/ FIA.
5 - PM is acquitted on the basis of not enough conclusive evidence. No further action is warranted.

Latest position:

Option 1: biloo700, war&peace

Option 2: Arsalan, Dastaan, The Eagle, PakSword, django, The Sandman

Option 3: Farah Sohail, QatariPrince, Verve, Imad.Khan, The Accountant, Panther 57

Option 4: IceCold, friendly_troll96, Zibago

Option 5: User
 
Latest position:

Option 1: biloo700, war&peace

Option 2: Arsalan, Dastaan, The Eagle, PakSword, django, The Sandman

Option 3: Farah Sohail, QatariPrince, Verve, Imad.Khan, The Accountant, Panther 57

Option 4: IceCold, friendly_troll96, Zibago

Option 5: User
Bahi ku itna khawar ho rahy hoo yaar,

here, i have started an opinion poll in your honor: :)
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/opinion-poll-sc-possible-likely-verdic-on-panama-case.482466/

Have included all the options you gave here.

Will request all members who were giving there opinion here to cast a vote in the opinion poll as well please.
 
I want a split decision... 4-1 decision, is what I want... Not a unanimous decision... Because 5-0 decision would mean, matti pao decision...because advocate ijaz afzal will never agree on a strong decision against Nawaz sharif.. Agar us ne sab se agree kar liya..tu matlab hoga ke in effect..nawaz sharif ke against verdict main kuch nahi hai... So its better to have a 4-1 decision..but a powerful one
 
  1. میاں صاحب نے اپنے توتلے مالی کو معطل کردیا
    خبر ملی ہے کہ نواز شریف نے اپنے توتلے مالی کو معطل کر دیا ہے کیونکہ اس کی بیوی کا نام "رشیداں" تھا ، وہ جب بھی آواز دیتا تو میاں صاحب کو لگتا "رسیداں " کہہ رہا ہے
 
  1. میاں صاحب نے اپنے توتلے مالی کو معطل کردیا
    خبر ملی ہے کہ نواز شریف نے اپنے توتلے مالی کو معطل کر دیا ہے کیونکہ اس کی بیوی کا نام "رشیداں" تھا ، وہ جب بھی آواز دیتا تو میاں صاحب کو لگتا "رسیداں " کہہ رہا ہے

:lol::lol::lol:
 
Bahi ku itna khawar ho rahy hoo yaar,

here, i have started an opinion poll in your honor: :)
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/opinion-poll-sc-possible-likely-verdic-on-panama-case.482466/

Have included all the options you gave here.

Will request all members who were giving there opinion here to cast a vote in the opinion poll as well please.

Many thanks Sir... I was tired of keeping track of the responses.

:)

I want a split decision... 4-1 decision, is what I want... Not a unanimous decision... Because 5-0 decision would mean, matti pao decision...because advocate ijaz afzal will never agree on a strong decision against Nawaz sharif.. Agar us ne sab se agree kar liya..tu matlab hoga ke in effect..nawaz sharif ke against verdict main kuch nahi hai... So its better to have a 4-1 decision..but a powerful one


Ufff.... ufff... ufff... :lol:
 
Many thanks Sir... I was tired of keeping track of the responses.

:)
no issues!
It was quite an interesting question your posted there and i thought it deserves proper audience. Again, the credit for that thread goes to you. :) :tup:
Now do ask all those who were expressing there opinion here to cast a vote there as well and we will know for sure what our members are thinking about the verdict.
 
no issues!
It was quite an interesting question your posted there and i thought it deserves proper audience. Again, the credit for that thread goes to you. :) :tup:
Now do ask all those who were expressing there opinion here to cast a vote there as well and we will know for sure what our members are thinking about the verdict.

Thank you sir.. Itni tareef tou kabhi mere abba ne bhi meri nahi ki... Aansu aagaey apni tareef sun kar.. lolll...

But yes, thanks again for that poll. One question though, is it an anonymous poll?
 
LAHORE: The district and sessions judge, who had handed down two death sentences to Mumtaz Qadri for killing Punjab governor Salman Taseer, has left for Saudi Arabia along with his family after receiving death threats from extremists.
THE JUDJES WHO HANG PEOPLE FOR PROCTECTING THE HONOUR AND DIGNITY OF PROPHET (PEACE BE UPON HIM) CANNOT PASS A VERDICT OF GUILTY FOR THE PEOPLE OF GUTTER (NAWAZ SHARIF N CO) WHAT DO THE PEOPLE OF PAKISTAN EXPECT FROM THESE THIEFS SITTINING IN SUPREME COURT.
 
Thank you sir.. Itni tareef tou kabhi mere abba ne bhi meri nahi ki... Aansu aagaey apni tareef sun kar.. lolll...

But yes, thanks again for that poll. One question though, is it an anonymous poll?
Lolz!!
If you want i can request uncle kay hath hola rakha krain, but dads are the same all across . . . .. . the country at least! :lol:

Yup i guess it is anonymous poll but to be honesty it is just the second time i created a poll thread and there surely will be some things even i am not aware of about the poll :P :cheesy:
 
Ufff.... ufff... ufff... :lol:

Uff uff..kia? :( theek tu keh rahi hun main :( Advocate Ijaz Afzal se aap ko koi achi umeed hai tu batayein? :( unanimous decision ka tu yehi matlab hga na ke advocatr ijaz afzal bhi hansi khushi razi hon decision par......tu woh koi aisa decision hi hoga..jis par hum hansi khushi razi nahi honge :(
 
I want a split decision... 4-1 decision, is what I want... Not a unanimous decision... Because 5-0 decision would mean, matti pao decision...because advocate ijaz afzal will never agree on a strong decision against Nawaz sharif.. Agar us ne sab se agree kar liya..tu matlab hoga ke in effect..nawaz sharif ke against verdict main kuch nahi hai... So its better to have a 4-1 decision..but a powerful one

Itni gehrayi mein tou judges ne bhi case ke baray mein nahi socha hoga jitna apne soch dala hai :lol:
 
The Holy Quran says:



4.135 O You who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest You swerve, and if You distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that You do.

5.8 O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.




Although there have been many incidents that happened during the time of Rasoolullah (S) in this regard, let me relate to you an incident which happened long after the demise of our Holy Prophet (S) to prove how much of his teachings, his character and his life had influenced and ingrained into the community of the first generation of Muslims. This was the period of the 2nd Caliph of Islam – Hazrath Omar Khathab (R).



One day Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) after the mid-day prayer was giving a sermon in the mosque, a Jewish Lady walks in with a baby in her arms. and she said:

“O Amirul Mu’mineen, Commander of the Faithful, I have come to you seeking Justice.

Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) replied: Dear lady, that is what we dispense here – please tell me what your problem is.”

She said: “Over a year ago – while walking along the road at night, I was accosted by a young man, who was in a state of drunkenness – I was helpless – he harmed and committed an offence on me to outrage my modesty – and today I am here with a baby in my arms. I had undergone untold sufferings during this past year – and at last managed to trace the offender – He was none other than your son “Abu Sahmah”.



Everybody was stunned – there was pin drop silence in the congregation. Then

Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) asked: “Are you certain that it was my son Abu Sahmah who was drunk and who committed the offence on you?”

The Jewish Lady said: “ I am very certain O Ameerul Mu’mineen- I had verified it, confirmed it and made quite certain before I came here to present my case.”



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) tells the congregation “ None of you should leave this place, until I return.”

The congregation was dumbfounded. The Son of the mightiest Caliph of the Muslim empire is being accused of drunkenness and rape.



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) goes home and finds his son having his meals – he says : “Son, this may be your last meal – quickly finish it and come with me to go to the mosque.”

Abu Sahmah was stunned – he could not eat and neither could he swallow what was in his mouth. The father then asks – “Abu Sahmah, about a year ago were you in a drunken state?” – No answer.

“Whilst in this state did you commit an offence on a Jewish lady to outrage her modesty?” – No Answer.

Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) New that his son was guilty of the offense. He grabs him by the hand and drags him to the mosque.



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) now asks the Jewish Lady in the presence of the congregation: “Is this the Abu Sahmah you were referring to?”

The Jewish Lady said: “Yes, O Amirul Mu’mineen, this is the very sameAbu Sahma who commited the offense on me to outrage my modesty.”



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) said without hesitation : Under Islamic Law, I declare that he be given 80 Lashes for drunkenness and 100 Lashes for harming a woman. And both punishments should be given now.”



Look at the laws around us and around the world – Whatever the offense you may commit under the influence of liquor you can go scot free – because they say, that you were intoxicated and you did not know what you were doing.

Islam takes a completely different stand : When you were in the process of consuming the liquor you were conscious.

The Proximate Cause in legal parlance using Latin terminology – it is – Causa Causans – The causes of all causes, The proximate that sets in motion a train of events – in this case it is the intoxicant – The first punishment is for taking the prohibited intoxicant – 80 Lashes.

Thereafterf, you are punished severely for every crime you may commit under the influence of liquor – This is Justice in Islam.



Now, When the order was given for the implementation of both the punishments – Immediately the congregation protested. They said: “He is a young boy, He cannot bear both the punishments – Just break up the punishments – and give it to him in instalments.”

Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) : said: “No, Both the punishments will go together.

His son was taken to the courtyard – and his arms were raised and tied onto two poles. He gives the whip to the executioner and says – “I want you to give him the hardest whipping ever given to any human being – or else I will take the whip away from you.”

The crowd was stunned, speechless.



The whipping now began – one by one – the hardest whipping ever – The skin on the back split open – blood started spurting everywhere – whip after whip – peaces of flesh started flying everywhere.

People sat there and stared dumb-founded.

On the 179th Lash The boy was about to collapse - Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) stayed the lashing – went upto his son and said:

“I do not think that you will survive this punishment – but when you pass away and when you meet my prophet (S) tell him that your father Omar had established the law of the Quran on earth. Tell him that he had established the Sunnah of the Prophet on Earth,”

As he said it, the boy collapsed and breathed his last.

Inna Lillaahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Raji’oon.



The body was brought down from the scaffold - Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) went and sat on the ground lifted his son’s head with both hands and placed it on his lap. Then tears started streaming down the face of Hazrath Omar Khathab (R).



The People said: “O Omar, we told you not to give both the punishments together, we told you he will not survive the punishment, You did not listen to us – now why are you crying?”



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) said: O people, you have misunderstood these tears of mind. These tears are streaming down for Four Reasons:

1.

These are Tears of Happiness – that I have established the laws of Allah – because of the fear of Allah.
2.

These are Tears of Happiness -= that I have established the Great Sunnah – The tradition of the Holy Prophet (S).
3.

These are Tears of Happiness because I have saved my son from Eternal Hell Fire.
4.

and lastly, He is my son, I will never see him again and hence this tear.



People were thunderstruck – There was pin drop silence.

The body of Abu Sahmah was taken, washed, shrouded and taken for burial.

After the burial – remember there was One Lash remaining – you do not lash a body after death – So Umar (R) ordered that the last lash be given on the grave.



If the rulers can establish this Justice – We guarantee you that definitely there will be peace. Even if people are starving they will not rebel – because they know, that you too are starving.

Just reflect on what is happening around us – What his happening around the world – think, reflect, ponder, meditate and try to understand.
 
The Holy Quran says:



4.135 O You who believe! stand out firmly for justice, as witnesses to Allah, even as against yourselves, or your parents, or your kin, and whether it be (against) rich or poor: for Allah can best protect both. Follow not the lusts (of your hearts), lest You swerve, and if You distort (justice) or decline to do justice, verily Allah is well-acquainted with all that You do.

5.8 O ye who believe! stand out firmly for Allah, as witnesses to fair dealing, and let not the hatred of others to you make you swerve to wrong and depart from justice. Be just: that is next to piety: and fear Allah. For Allah is well-acquainted with all that ye do.




Although there have been many incidents that happened during the time of Rasoolullah (S) in this regard, let me relate to you an incident which happened long after the demise of our Holy Prophet (S) to prove how much of his teachings, his character and his life had influenced and ingrained into the community of the first generation of Muslims. This was the period of the 2nd Caliph of Islam – Hazrath Omar Khathab (R).



One day Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) after the mid-day prayer was giving a sermon in the mosque, a Jewish Lady walks in with a baby in her arms. and she said:

“O Amirul Mu’mineen, Commander of the Faithful, I have come to you seeking Justice.

Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) replied: Dear lady, that is what we dispense here – please tell me what your problem is.”

She said: “Over a year ago – while walking along the road at night, I was accosted by a young man, who was in a state of drunkenness – I was helpless – he harmed and committed an offence on me to outrage my modesty – and today I am here with a baby in my arms. I had undergone untold sufferings during this past year – and at last managed to trace the offender – He was none other than your son “Abu Sahmah”.



Everybody was stunned – there was pin drop silence in the congregation. Then

Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) asked: “Are you certain that it was my son Abu Sahmah who was drunk and who committed the offence on you?”

The Jewish Lady said: “ I am very certain O Ameerul Mu’mineen- I had verified it, confirmed it and made quite certain before I came here to present my case.”



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) tells the congregation “ None of you should leave this place, until I return.”

The congregation was dumbfounded. The Son of the mightiest Caliph of the Muslim empire is being accused of drunkenness and rape.



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) goes home and finds his son having his meals – he says : “Son, this may be your last meal – quickly finish it and come with me to go to the mosque.”

Abu Sahmah was stunned – he could not eat and neither could he swallow what was in his mouth. The father then asks – “Abu Sahmah, about a year ago were you in a drunken state?” – No answer.

“Whilst in this state did you commit an offence on a Jewish lady to outrage her modesty?” – No Answer.

Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) New that his son was guilty of the offense. He grabs him by the hand and drags him to the mosque.



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) now asks the Jewish Lady in the presence of the congregation: “Is this the Abu Sahmah you were referring to?”

The Jewish Lady said: “Yes, O Amirul Mu’mineen, this is the very sameAbu Sahma who commited the offense on me to outrage my modesty.”



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) said without hesitation : Under Islamic Law, I declare that he be given 80 Lashes for drunkenness and 100 Lashes for harming a woman. And both punishments should be given now.”



Look at the laws around us and around the world – Whatever the offense you may commit under the influence of liquor you can go scot free – because they say, that you were intoxicated and you did not know what you were doing.

Islam takes a completely different stand : When you were in the process of consuming the liquor you were conscious.

The Proximate Cause in legal parlance using Latin terminology – it is – Causa Causans – The causes of all causes, The proximate that sets in motion a train of events – in this case it is the intoxicant – The first punishment is for taking the prohibited intoxicant – 80 Lashes.

Thereafterf, you are punished severely for every crime you may commit under the influence of liquor – This is Justice in Islam.



Now, When the order was given for the implementation of both the punishments – Immediately the congregation protested. They said: “He is a young boy, He cannot bear both the punishments – Just break up the punishments – and give it to him in instalments.”

Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) : said: “No, Both the punishments will go together.

His son was taken to the courtyard – and his arms were raised and tied onto two poles. He gives the whip to the executioner and says – “I want you to give him the hardest whipping ever given to any human being – or else I will take the whip away from you.”

The crowd was stunned, speechless.



The whipping now began – one by one – the hardest whipping ever – The skin on the back split open – blood started spurting everywhere – whip after whip – peaces of flesh started flying everywhere.

People sat there and stared dumb-founded.

On the 179th Lash The boy was about to collapse - Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) stayed the lashing – went upto his son and said:

“I do not think that you will survive this punishment – but when you pass away and when you meet my prophet (S) tell him that your father Omar had established the law of the Quran on earth. Tell him that he had established the Sunnah of the Prophet on Earth,”

As he said it, the boy collapsed and breathed his last.

Inna Lillaahi Wa Inna Ilaihi Raji’oon.



The body was brought down from the scaffold - Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) went and sat on the ground lifted his son’s head with both hands and placed it on his lap. Then tears started streaming down the face of Hazrath Omar Khathab (R).



The People said: “O Omar, we told you not to give both the punishments together, we told you he will not survive the punishment, You did not listen to us – now why are you crying?”



Hazrath Omar Khathab (R) said: O people, you have misunderstood these tears of mind. These tears are streaming down for Four Reasons:

1.

These are Tears of Happiness – that I have established the laws of Allah – because of the fear of Allah.
2.

These are Tears of Happiness -= that I have established the Great Sunnah – The tradition of the Holy Prophet (S).
3.

These are Tears of Happiness because I have saved my son from Eternal Hell Fire.
4.

and lastly, He is my son, I will never see him again and hence this tear.



People were thunderstruck – There was pin drop silence.

The body of Abu Sahmah was taken, washed, shrouded and taken for burial.

After the burial – remember there was One Lash remaining – you do not lash a body after death – So Umar (R) ordered that the last lash be given on the grave.



If the rulers can establish this Justice – We guarantee you that definitely there will be peace. Even if people are starving they will not rebel – because they know, that you too are starving.

Just reflect on what is happening around us – What his happening around the world – think, reflect, ponder, meditate and try to understand.

Speechless :( i know, we cant get such ppl now, as they were amongst best of the best... But can we ever get ppl, who have atleast 1/100th of their character, as our rulers? :(
 
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