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Here I agree with you.. Undeclared bank account is a bigger threat for NS.. Thanks for reminding me..

Main confidence lose karchuka hun already.. Dawn Leaks ke episode ke baad..

There's another constitutional factor which should be taken into account, two jobs simultaneously. SC has to rule on conflict of interest. Let people know if it's fine for a PM to do a job abroad.
 
The decision by this Court cannot be appealed. This is not a trial but a constitutional petition. 62/63 is part of the constitution and in falls upon the SC to decide whether or not Nawaz Sharif fulfills those requirements. Unfortunately, a failure to disclose essential information through the Court proceedings are not going to enable the judges to conclusively say that Nawaz was dishonest. Dishonesty is the only way Nawaz Sharif can be thrown out. The two judges who DQ him did so on the basis of his contradictory speeches. Unfortunately, the other three judges have said those speeches can't be used against him.

As I said before, whether he lied or not but failure to provide proof of money trail is definitely going to be the rock that sinks the PM's premier-Ship, in sha Allah. The forgeries, perjury, misdeclarations, tax evasions and what not may well be referred to trail courts, ECP or other institutions for further actions.
 
There's another constitutional factor which should be taken into account, two jobs simultaneously. SC has to rule on conflict of interest. Let people know if it's fine for a PM to do a job abroad.

The SC can't decide that IMO. The Parliament has to do so.
 
There's another constitutional factor which should be taken into account, two jobs simultaneously. SC has to rule on conflict of interest. Let people know if it's fine for a PM to do a job abroad.

Yahan SC kahegi ke hamain qanoon ke mutabiq faisla karna hai..
 
They knew the UAE Labour Law, & other also know what the law is, Logic says that These docs won't be accepted by the judges reason being Judgement is reserved, & the fact that A Rebuttal by lawyers of Petitioners are required as per Article 10A!

If it becomes part of a judgement they will be taken to court in the UAE for misrepresentation as well. I know if a laborer was issued a visa and did not work he would be deported in the best case scenario.
 
The SC can't decide that IMO. The Parliament has to do so.

It's only the SC which can decide, interpretation of law is a right exclusively reserved by SC. Reference, ruling on dual nationality.

Yahan SC kahegi ke hamain qanoon ke mutabiq faisla karna hai..

Kya kanoon? Is there any law which permits a PM to do a job that too abroad?
 
It's only the SC which can decide, interpretation of law is a right exclusively reserved by SC. Reference, ruling on dual nationality.
What part of the constitution says a PM/MNA should stand disqualified if there is conflict of interest?


Kya kanoon? Is there any law which permits a PM to do a job that too abroad?
If there is no law against something it is not illegal.

Do others declare income on agricultural land etc? I am not very sure about this requirement by the way.

If the law requires to declare income of every income source, then he is definitely in trouble, otherwise not.. Because on the visa, his post and his employer, both are mentioned.

I've never seen income being declared on these ECP forms.
 
Again I see posts do shift towards negativity on account of planted media reports...

SC will in sha Allah deliver their verdict based on Law and how it was constantly obstructed by the defendants.

They obstructed justice by not providing what was claimed and that too often and repeatedly asked for and in the end even requested by the judges to provide proof of money trail.
 
But there is no law which restricts as well? What do you think?

Exactly what I am saying, SC should pass a ruling on this constitutional issue. Mere excuse ke qanoon ke mutabiq ain't gonna work.
 
Exactly what I am saying, SC should pass a ruling on this constitutional issue. Mere excuse ke qanoon ke mutabiq ain't gonna work.

How can it be a constitutional issue if it's not part of the constitution? There is nothing which prevents someone from holding a public office even if there is conflict of interest.

Again I see posts do shift towards negativity on account of planted media reports...

SC will in sha Allah deliver their verdict based on Law and how it was constantly obstructed by the defendants.

They obstructed justice by not providing what was claimed and that too often and repeatedly asked for and in the end even requested by the judges to provide proof of money trail.

Obstruction of justice is a criminal issue. The Supreme Court can only decide on constitutional issue which in this case is 62/63--specifically if Nawaz Sharif is dishonest.
 
You Guys are setting aside another major factor.

Not a single document was provided by the defence to answer the questions of the judges but those that were stated to be fake by the judges comments themselves.

How can it be a constitutional issue if it's not part of the constitution? There is nothing which prevents someone from holding a public office even if there is conflict of interest.



Obstruction of justice is a criminal issue. The Supreme Court can only decide on constitutional issue which in this case is 62/63--specifically if Nawaz Sharif is dishonest.

Not just criminal, the judges themselves said they will seriously consider dq of PM.

Based on what they said that may I ask you?
 
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Since 70's Nawaz lived with a grudge that Government took away and nationalized certain assets , since 80's he has worked his way thru politics to regain access to power.
His number one agenda has always been to see these nationalied institutes crumble in favor of companies being run by his associates / friends or close aides

1- Used bank loans , defaults
2- Money transer out of Pakistan by illegal means
3- Neglect of National companies , in order to bankrupt them and take revenge on state
4- His own private empire during this time has continued to grow both in Pakistan and overseas under his sons


No one can explain why National Steels mill rots away while his how steel mills are profitable and not only that he has successful history of multi million dollar empire in Other countries


Current Political Term (Criminal Offences worthy of Hanging)

a) Nandi Poor power project , crashed and failed after first 2-3 weeks a multi billion dollar project which failed in few days

b) Solar power project , completed 100% over budget , and then immediately after completion , was declared as not even worth 50% of origional budget. Plans were setup to sell it to associates



Other criminal Offence:

a) Forged documents , in Supreme Court of Pakistan (Big one)
b) Lied on Parliment during speeches
c) Contempt of court asking for what are charges when nation has been embroiled in limbo for 2 years
d) Used political infuence to threten JIT members
e) Attack on ISI and Army while in political office
f) Meetup with Indian associate and then broke local laws by taking banned person to unauthorized areas of Pakistan, under his visa
g) Appointed his family members in Ministeries , with out merit
f) Did not appoint a foreign minister or develop a foreign police to counter India
g) Developed network of paid criminals who run his Mafia ring to threat people , either done thru associates in political circle or criminal bodies.
h) Took a 1 Billion loan from Saudi Arabia and not sure who knows where that money went


Confict of Interest:
a) Actively holding multiple position overseas as Director or owner of companies and Prime Minister of Pakistan

b) Collecting funds from international party , not declaring this correctly his own property and assets and interest lies outside of Pakistan

c) Same government institutes that are failing , his own private entities in same sector have been making money and successful if not in Pakistan then overseas

d) Failiure to show he can develop a foreign policy to counter Indian influence , when his own business dealings are proven with Indian bodies. This conflict of interest was visible when he failed to raise Kalbhusan case prominently world wide

e) During 90's he took the country on brink of bankruptcy , and even now he has embarked on massive reliance on Foreign Aid money from IMF. Pakistani currency went from 55 rupee per dollar to now almost 105 rupees per dollar


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Benazir Govt was dismissed by the SCP on meir basis of Prima Facie of having done Corruption, Out here Prima Facie NS has lied in front of the SCP
Again there is non-declaration of 45Million in 2013 Declaration of NS & the Qatari Letter, which is Bogus & without a Money Trail, these all do come under Article 62/63
 
Exactly what I am saying, SC should pass a ruling on this constitutional issue. Mere excuse ke qanoon ke mutabiq ain't gonna work.

Waisay lack of law on conflict of interest will go in favor of NS. This is my opinion.. SC ruling de dey agar NS ke khilaaf, qanoon ke clear na hotay huay, it doesn't seem possible. So many other things, uss par abhi tak mind nahi ban raha..

I remember, I developed a bad habit while playing carrom board in my childhood. I used to hesitate a lot and pushed myself back while trying to hit the striker after aiming at the coins. Sometimes, the hesitation kept me from playing a shot at all.

Mujhay SC ki halat aisi hi lag rahi hai..
 
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