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Koi banda bemaar hai, she was the first lady of Pakistan until a few days back. Abb itna bhi na karain..

Aur Noora jo impression de raha hai ke establishment ne nikalwaya hai, awam ki hamdardi lega abb apni wife ki beemari ko cash karega.. isay tou saaray Pakistanion ki taraf se tweet milnay chahien ke hamain tum se hamdardi hai.. phir Awam ki hamdardi kam hogi..

Iss liey keh raha hun ke tweet achi thi..





Isay tou har politician se tweet milni chahiey.. Imran ko tou iss ki ayadat karnay london bhi jana chahiey..

Yeh log yehi game kheltay hain doosron ke saath, hamdardian batornay ke liey..



Chalo shukar hai aap ko bhi Ghussa aaya.. lekin it was a good tweet.
yes acha tweet tha Aur I think ye koi SC ko message waghaira nahi th.
 
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Koi banda bemaar hai, she was the first lady of Pakistan until a few days back. Abb itna bhi na karain..

Aur Noora jo impression de raha hai ke establishment ne nikalwaya hai, awam ki hamdardi lega abb apni wife ki beemari ko cash karega.. isay tou saaray Pakistanion ki taraf se tweet milnay chahien ke hamain tum se hamdardi hai.. phir Awam ki hamdardi kam hogi..

Iss liey keh raha hun ke tweet achi thi..





Isay tou har politician se tweet milni chahiey.. Imran ko tou iss ki ayadat karnay london bhi jana chahiey..

Yeh log yehi game kheltay hain doosron ke saath, hamdardian batornay ke liey..



Chalo shukar hai aap ko bhi Ghussa aaya.. lekin it was a good tweet.
I didn't wanted to say it out loud but we need to beat them at their game. Harsh truth!!
I understand that people are disliking it but the FACT is that ours is a nation of emotional fools, sorry but that is how it is! We will fall for the same lies, over and over and over again. What we need is to nullify that "sazish" factor!
 
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Koi banda bemaar hai, she was the first lady of Pakistan until a few days back. Abb itna bhi na karain..

Aur Noora jo impression de raha hai ke establishment ne nikalwaya hai, awam ki hamdardi lega abb apni wife ki beemari ko cash karega.. isay tou saaray Pakistanion ki taraf se tweet milnay chahien ke hamain tum se hamdardi hai.. phir Awam ki hamdardi kam hogi..

Iss liey keh raha hun ke tweet achi thi..





Isay tou har politician se tweet milni chahiey.. Imran ko tou iss ki ayadat karnay london bhi jana chahiey..

Yeh log yehi game kheltay hain doosron ke saath, hamdardian batornay ke liey..



Chalo shukar hai aap ko bhi Ghussa aaya.. lekin it was a good tweet.
Brother it was an official tweet ... tweet by ISPR means mesage from the establishment and i want no role of establishment in politics nor negative nor positive ... they just do their legal duty of defending the constitution and strengthening the institutes

Kia NS ke ilaawa...agar koi aur itni dhamkian deta...SC ko....instituitions ko... Tu kia aisa hosakta tha ke phir bhi COAS usay call karay aur kheriat poochay? NS really is anokha laadla .. Ye kuch bhi kar ley..mulk tornay ki dhamki de dey..aa he did in his GT road speeches.. Ke pehle bhhi vote ki tauheen ki gayi..71 hogaya.. Ab bhi vote ki tauheen ki gayi.. SC ko bura bhala keh dey..kuch bhi kar ley???yahan sharif family ko NRO milna hi milna hai..esp as long as Bajwa Sb is COAS.. Maryam Nawaz ne bilkol theek kaha tha..Raheel Sharif ki retirement par... Khizayein chali gayeen..bahaarein aagayen..

Kuch bhi hojaye.. Dunya idhar ki udhar hojaye..Pak army ka image kharaab hojaye..lekin bajwa sb..sharif family ko trouble main nahi dekh saktay.. Wh unhein NRO aur safe exit de kar hi rahein ge..

Ab tu NS ...PM bhi nahi hi.....NS ne pichlay dino ....saaray instituitions ko bura bhala kaha..judges ko dhamkiyan di hain.. He is not the PM anymore ke uske saath courtesy rakhi jaaye.. Aaj COAS ne NS ko call kar ke kisay message pohanchaya hai? SC ko? Ke ab inhein mazeed tang na kiya jaye? Ye safe exit chahtay hain tu inhein de diya jaaye.. Hum tu waisy hi suspicious ho rahay thay..ke ab tak jo SC..monitoring nahi horahi..ye achanak kia hua hai? Aaj COAS ne NS ko call ke apni taraf se msg sab ko de diya hai...

Kuch bhi hojaye..as long as Bajwa is our COAS..ye humein khush kabhi nahi honay dein ge... Ye sharif family ko kabhi bhi jail jaatay nahi dekh saktay.. PTI struggle karay..qoum duaaien maange ke ..chor jail main jaayein.. Lekin Bajwa sb ...sab ke iraaday nakaam banaatay rahein ge.. Agar NS..PM hota ab tak..phir bhi aisi courtesy samajh main aati thee.. Lekin NS..ab ek disqualified MNA hai..jis ne instituitions ko bura bhala kaha..dhamkian di..lekin Bajwa sb ki NS se mohabbat main kami na aasaki.. Ye poori Pak army ko demoralise kar dein ge..Pak army ka image kharab kardein ge..lekin NS ko kuch hota nahi dekh saktay

Ye apnay ek hi stroke se...sab kuch bigaar dete hain.. Bhtt hi bura din tha..jab ye COAS banay thay.. Bajwa sb ko ek kaam karna chahye.. Agar unhein sharif family se itni hi mohabbat hai..ke woh unhein jail jaatay nahi dekh saktay..tu sharif family ke crimes main..unki jagah..Bajwa sb khud jail chalay jayein..ke humein kuch tu tasalli ho..ke in crimes ke liye koi tu jail gaya... Jaisy SECP chaorman Zafar hijazi khud cases bhugat raha hai..lekin sharif family ke against koi statement nahi diya.aur jail bhi kuch din ke liye chala gaya..Bajwa sb..inki jagah khud jail chalay jayein..agar woh sharif family ko jail jaatay nahi dekh saktay.

Ye Ek disqualified MNA..jis ko jail main hona chahye ..usay call kar ke kisay message pohanchaa rahay hain? SC ko na? Esp abhi 3-4 din pehle hi NS aur uski party ..Justice Khosa jaisy insan le khilaf reference laanay ko tayyar bethi thee... Mera khyal hai Bajwa sb ka bas chalay tu woh Nawaz Sharif ki jagah..Justice Khosa ko jail bhijwaa dein ke aakhir Justice Khosa ki himmat kaisy hui ..Tauheen e Nawaz Sharif karnay ki?


@Arsalan @The Accountant @PakSword @El_Swordsmen
IK bhi nro ka hissa ban gya ye tweet to SC ko clear message hai k hum sirf Nwaz ki disqualification sai khush ho gai hain ab mazeed kuch na kiya jai in k khilaf.
Mery bhai IK is a politician and not gov poition holder ... Bajwa did not call him in his personal capacity as the news is broke by ISPR ... it was an official call by chief of army staff advertisied by ISPR ... do we pay him for doing politics or for maintaining peace ... a person who is openly threatening to break Pakistan by giving examplea of 1971 and our army chief is not only calling him but advertising it will ... i am really pissed and this politica of Bajwa ...

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I didn't wanted to say it out loud but we need to beat them at their game. Harsh truth!!
I understand that people are disliking it but the FACT is that ours is a nation of emotional fools, sorry but that is how it is! We will fall for the same lies, over and over and over again. What we need is to nullify that "sazish" factor!
Brother for this time i disagree ... this nazriya.e.zaroorat always made us pay heavy at the end ... armed forces has no role in politics period ... they should remain partial in actual and as well as appearance ... SC is under same pressure but they did not try to be the good guy ...

Remember as i am always maintaining this is not about NS but about setting the system ... so what Bajwa is setting ? A person openly threatening to divide Pakistan and he still deserves sympathy ? This is not the right message ...
 
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Kia NS ke ilaawa...agar koi aur itni dhamkian deta...SC ko....instituitions ko... Tu kia aisa hosakta tha ke phir bhi COAS usay call karay aur kheriat poochay? NS really is anokha laadla .. Ye kuch bhi kar ley..mulk tornay ki dhamki de dey..aa he did in his GT road speeches.. Ke pehle bhhi vote ki tauheen ki gayi..71 hogaya.. Ab bhi vote ki tauheen ki gayi.. SC ko bura bhala keh dey..kuch bhi kar ley???yahan sharif family ko NRO milna hi milna hai..esp as long as Bajwa Sb is COAS.. Maryam Nawaz ne bilkol theek kaha tha..Raheel Sharif ki retirement par... Khizayein chali gayeen..bahaarein aagayen..

Kuch bhi hojaye.. Dunya idhar ki udhar hojaye..Pak army ka image kharaab hojaye..lekin bajwa sb..sharif family ko trouble main nahi dekh saktay.. Wh unhein NRO aur safe exit de kar hi rahein ge..

Ab tu NS ...PM bhi nahi hi.....NS ne pichlay dino ....saaray instituitions ko bura bhala kaha..judges ko dhamkiyan di hain.. He is not the PM anymore ke uske saath courtesy rakhi jaaye.. Aaj COAS ne NS ko call kar ke kisay message pohanchaya hai? SC ko? Ke ab inhein mazeed tang na kiya jaye? Ye safe exit chahtay hain tu inhein de diya jaaye.. Hum tu waisy hi suspicious ho rahay thay..ke ab tak jo SC..monitoring nahi horahi..ye achanak kia hua hai? Aaj COAS ne NS ko call ke apni taraf se msg sab ko de diya hai...

Kuch bhi hojaye..as long as Bajwa is our COAS..ye humein khush kabhi nahi honay dein ge... Ye sharif family ko kabhi bhi jail jaatay nahi dekh saktay.. PTI struggle karay..qoum duaaien maange ke ..chor jail main jaayein.. Lekin Bajwa sb ...sab ke iraaday nakaam banaatay rahein ge.. Agar NS..PM hota ab tak..phir bhi aisi courtesy samajh main aati thee.. Lekin NS..ab ek disqualified MNA hai..jis ne instituitions ko bura bhala kaha..dhamkian di..lekin Bajwa sb ki NS se mohabbat main kami na aasaki.. Ye poori Pak army ko demoralise kar dein ge..Pak army ka image kharab kardein ge..lekin NS ko kuch hota nahi dekh saktay

Ye apnay ek hi stroke se...sab kuch bigaar dete hain.. Bhtt hi bura din tha..jab ye COAS banay thay.. Bajwa sb ko ek kaam karna chahye.. Agar unhein sharif family se itni hi mohabbat hai..ke woh unhein jail jaatay nahi dekh saktay..tu sharif family ke crimes main..unki jagah..Bajwa sb khud jail chalay jayein..ke humein kuch tu tasalli ho..ke in crimes ke liye koi tu jail gaya... Jaisy SECP chaorman Zafar hijazi khud cases bhugat raha hai..lekin sharif family ke against koi statement nahi diya.aur jail bhi kuch din ke liye chala gaya..Bajwa sb..inki jagah khud jail chalay jayein..agar woh sharif family ko jail jaatay nahi dekh saktay.

Ye Ek disqualified MNA..jis ko jail main hona chahye ..usay call kar ke kisay message pohanchaa rahay hain? SC ko na? Esp abhi 3-4 din pehle hi NS aur uski party ..Justice Khosa jaisy insan le khilaf reference laanay ko tayyar bethi thee... Mera khyal hai Bajwa sb ka bas chalay tu woh Nawaz Sharif ki jagah..Justice Khosa ko jail bhijwaa dein ke aakhir Justice Khosa ki himmat kaisy hui ..Tauheen e Nawaz Sharif karnay ki?


@Arsalan @The Accountant @PakSword @El_Swordsmen

Why blaming Bajwa only ? why not Kyani and Raheel sharif as well ?
 
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Brother it was an official tweet ... tweet by ISPR means mesage from the establishment and i want no role of establishment in politics nor negative nor positive ... they just do their legal duty of defending the constitution and strengthening the institutes



Mery bhai IK is a politician and not gov poition holder ... Bajwa did not call him in his personal capacity as the news is broke by ISPR ... it was an official call by chief of army staff advertisied by ISPR ... do we pay him for doing politics or for maintaining peace ... a person who is openly threatening to break Pakistan by giving examplea of 1971 and our army chief is not only calling him but advertising it will ... i am really pissed and this politica of Bajwa ...


Brother for this time i disagree ... this nazriya.e.zaroorat always made us pay heavy at the end ... armed forces has no role in politics period ... they should remain partial in actual and as well as appearance ... SC is under same pressure but they did not try to be the good guy ...

Remember as i am always maintaining this is not about NS but about setting the system ... so what Bajwa is setting ? A person openly threatening to divide Pakistan and he still deserves sympathy ? This is not the right message ...

Everyone except Pakistani nation deserves sympathy
 
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Why blaming Bajwa only ? why not Kyani and Raheel sharif as well ?

So kayani and Raheel sharif called Nawaz Sharif..in their official capacity AFTER he has been disqualified by SC..and he has been threatening state instituitions openly and also threatening abt another another 1971?
 
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So kayani and Raheel sharif called Nawaz Sharif..in their official capacity AFTER he has been disqualified by SC..and he has been threatening state instituitions openly and also threatening abt another another 1971?

Miaan saanp ko hum pe 5 saal ke liay musalat kis ne kia tha with the help of international players ? Dawn leaks or model town incident pe kis ne saanp ki girti hoi govt ko bachaya ? Why blaming Bajwa only ??
 
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Miaan saanp ko hum pe 5 saal ke liay musalat kis ne kia tha with the help of international players ? Dawn leaks or model town incident pe kis ne saanp ki girti hoi govt ko bachaya ? Why blaming Bajwa only ??

Model town main tu khud Qadri sb bhaag gaye thay..ab tak bhaagay huay hain... Deal kar li... Jab wohi serious na thay tu Raheel sharif kiya karein? Dawn leaks ka issue uthaa hi Raheel sharif ke waqt main tha.. Bjwa sb ne aanay ke baad usay kaisy settle kia..ke apni hi tweet wapis le li .. Although ke Raheel Sharif ka bhi dawn leaks main role koi ideal nahi tha..i have been criticising him in the past too..lekin Bajwa sb ne tu limits cross kar di hain...

Raheel Sharif ne phir bhi KUCH tu kiya tha mulk main..balke dekha jaaye tu kafi kuch kia.. KHI operation Raheel Sharif ke time main full speed par hua..although shuru t Kiyani ke waqt main hua thua but asal jo kaam hua..Gen RS ke waqt main hua.. Strikes ka cultre end hua.. 90 par arrests huay.. Koi pehle soch bhi sakta tha? Karachi peaceful hua.. Hi Profile arrests huay.. Like Dr Asim.. Bajwa sb ke aanay ke baad kia hua? Raheel Sharif ke waqt politiciins itnay frustrated thay ke zardari ne eenton se eentw ali speech kar di aur phor bhaag gaya.. Ahamdolillah..Bajwa sb ke aatay hi eenton se eent bajanay walay wapis aagaye.. Koi ek bhi hi profile arrest na hua..karachi main ya kahin aur.. Karachi op slow down hogaya.. Raheel Sharif ke waqt main balochistan main kaafi situation control hui..

Tell me..one good initiative of Bajwa? In ka KOI EK ACHA kaam bataa dein? Raddul Fasad..Allah janay kis balaa ka naam hai... Bs roz ek press release ajaati hai ke yahan ya wahan search operation hua...itna aslahaa pakra gaya..bas.. Punjab main rangers op announce hua..kia hua uska?

Aur doosri baat NS ke hawaalay se... Agar NS..is waqt PM hota tu Bajwa sb ki courtesy call ki samajh bhi aati.. Nw he is disqualified by SC..AND he has been threatening SC and state of Pakistan openly, threateing abt another 1971..and Bajwa sb is calling him..
Wohi baat..ke Bajwa sb ka koi ek acha kaam batadein..inke aanay ke baad sirf NS aur uski family ko har jagah se relief hi mila hai.. Chalein dawn leaks ko bhi bhool jayein.. Us waqt tu woh PM tha.. Nw he is a nobody..a disqualified MNA..who has been threatening Pak..uske baad bhi safe exit?

Altaf Hussain bhi suna hai, bemaar hai..uski bhi kheriat pooch lein Bajwa sb..us ne phir kia gunah kiya hai? Ya anokha laadla..sirf NS hi hai.. ?
 
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Model town main tu khud Qadri sb bhaag gaye thay..ab tak bhaagay huay hain... Deal kar li... Jab wohi serious na thay tu Raheel sharif kiya karein? Dawn leaks ka issue uthaa hi Raheel sharif ke waqt main tha.. Bjwa sb ne aanay ke baad usay kaisy settle kia..ke apni hi tweet wapis le li .. Although ke Raheel Sharif ka bhi dawn leaks main role koi ideal nahi tha..i have been criticising him in the past too..lekin Bajwa sb ne tu limits cross kar di hain...

Raheel Sharif ne phir bhi KUCH tu kiya tha mulk main..balke dekha jaaye tu kafi kuch kia.. KHI operation Raheel Sharif ke time main full speed par hua..although shuru t Kiyani ke waqt main hua thua but asal jo kaam hua..Gen RS ke waqt main hua.. Strikes ka cultre end hua.. 90 par arrests huay.. Koi pehle soch bhi sakta tha? Karachi peaceful hua.. Hi Profile arrests huay.. Like Dr Asim.. Bajwa sb ke aanay ke baad kia hua? Raheel Sharif ke waqt politiciins itnay frustrated thay ke zardari ne eenton se eentw ali speech kar di aur phor bhaag gaya.. Ahamdolillah..Bajwa sb ke aatay hi eenton se eent bajanay walay wapis aagaye.. Koi ek bhi hi profile arrest na hua..karachi main ya kahin aur.. Karachi op slow down hogaya.. Raheel Sharif ke waqt main balochistan main kaafi situation control hui..

Tell me..one good initiative of Bajwa? In ka KOI EK ACHA kaam bataa dein? Raddul Fasad..Allah janay kis balaa ka naam hai... Bs roz ek press release ajaati hai ke yahan ya wahan search operation hua...itna aslahaa pakra gaya..bas.. Punjab main rangers op announce hua..kia hua uska?

Aur doosri baat NS ke hawaalay se... Agar NS..is waqt PM hota tu Bajwa sb ki courtesy call ki samajh bhi aati.. Nw he is disqualified by SC..AND he has been threatening SC and state of Pakistan openly, threateing abt another 1971..and Bajwa sb is calling him..
Wohi baat..ke Bajwa sb ka koi ek acha kaam batadein..inke aanay ke baad sirf NS aur uski family ko har jagah se relief hi mila hai.. Chalein dawn leaks ko bhi bhool jayein.. Us waqt tu woh PM tha.. Nw he is a nobody..a disqualified MNA..who has been threatening Pak..uske baad bhi safe exit?

Altaf Hussain bhi suna hai, bemaar hai..uski bhi kheriat pooch lein Bajwa sb..us ne phir kia gunah kiya hai? Ya anokha laadla..sirf NS hi hai.. ?

I am afraid we have to come out of this personality worship mode asap, na Raheel Sharif ne qoom pe ehsaan kia na bajwa sahab kar rahay hain, its their duty and they r doing their job, there was nothing wrong if Bajwa had called him in personal capacity, ISPR tweeting and telling the nation about is totally wrong.
 
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I am afraid we have to come out of this personality worship mode asap, na Raheel Sharif ne qoom pe ehsaan kia na bajwa sahab kar rahay hain, its their duty and they r doing their job, there was nothing wrong if Bajwa had called him in personal capacity, ISPR tweeting and telling the nation about is totally wrong.

I am not saying Raheel Sharif was perfect.. But u compared Bajwa with raheel Sharif and Kiyani..tu uska jawab diya tha..

@bold Job karein..theek se..tu aitraz nahi...aur na hi ehsan hai... .lekin agar ye Bajwa sb.....Nawaz Sharif ko relief aur NRO denay ke chakkar main hon..tu us par aitraz hai
 
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Panama case "grey alley" ki taraf gamzan?

Kya soft NRO ho Chuka? No arrests but escape from Pakistan.

Kya mulziman ko bhaganay kay baad muqadmaat shuru keyaa jain gay?

Family arguments in favour of departure:

Avoid eventual arrest.

Jaidad tu pehlay bhe zabt ki gai thee, kya farq para? just a matter of time we get it back.

Asset confiscation abroad is not easy and still "hanooz dilli door ast". Case in point Altaf Bhais case and assets in England.

Party aur Election campaign England say chalai jai ge, Haalat ki tabdeeli ka intezar keya jai ga.

After election ya Kuch salon baad wapsi Ka option consider kia ja sakta hay, depending on times, conditions and available deals if any.


After so much hope and light at the end of the tunnel, Kya ultimately Pakistan kay leye yehe kahay jai ga...

Shame shame shame, corrupt all-the-same!
 
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I am not saying Raheel Sharif was perfect.. But u compared Bajwa with raheel Sharif and Kiyani..tu uska jawab diya tha..

@bold Job karein..theek se..tu aitraz nahi...aur na hi ehsan hai... .lekin agar ye Bajwa sb.....Nawaz Sharif ko relief aur NRO denay ke chakkar main hon..tu us par aitraz hai

Like i said ke personal capacity main fone kartay bajwa sahab no issue but why involving ISPR ? wesay on a personal note main pehlay bhi yeh baat is forum per kar chuka hon ke mujhay mian saanp jail jatay nazar nahi arahay, at most his wealth and properties wud be confiscated and he wud be allowed to leave. Now u can call it an NRO or mukk mukka whatever u like.
 
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Why blaming Bajwa only ? why not Kyani and Raheel sharif as well ?
Kiyani and raheel were officialy bound to respect him as they were legally reporting to him but right now NS is not even an ordinary citizen ... he is a convicted criminal trying to create unstability in the country
 
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