Palestinians mourn death of a Bangladeshi war hero

[Tom-tom]

We've had many pilots of his calibre even better before 71, but after 71 there wasnt a war on such a large scale where they could've shown their skills. On the contrary has Bangladesh ever had a pilot at even 1/4 of his capability.


All paf pilots were given the same training and were on par with eachother although there are some exceptions some natural talents but what Azam did anyother pilot (from Paf) would've done the same without a doubt he was given the opportunity and was at the right place at the right time.
And when did i insult you you're the one using words like bickering while refering to me.


Everything is not about money why wasn't Bangladesh ever able to rival PAF as an institute after your independance.

The guy I responded to mentioned "Pakistani resources ". Also during. aa particular I
time east pk sent logistical manpower to paf.

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

We've had many pilots of his calibre even better before 71, but after 71 there wasnt a war on such a large scale where they could've shown their skills. On the contrary has Bangladesh ever had a pilot at even 1/4 of his capability.


All paf pilots were given the same training and were on par with eachother although there are some exceptions some natural talents but what Azam did anyother pilot (from Paf) would've done the same without a doubt he was given the opportunity and was at the right place at the right time.
And when did i insult you you're the one using words like bickering while refering to me.


Everything is not about money why wasn't Bangladesh ever able to rival PAF as an institute after your independance.

The mods have very conveniently cleaned up the racist tirade unleashed on me and my countrymen on here last night so yes to call it bickering is an understatement.


I'm yet to see a Bangali or Bangladeshi make racist remarks towards Punjabis or any other Pakistani ethnicity on here.

Please do tag me if someone does and I'll be sure to let them know it's not right but when your countrymen do it, it seems to me they get a free pass and it gets deemed 'banter'.

Again did i bicker at you? And what is it you want, if they clean out tge trolls you say it's convenience and if they don't you say we're impartial just pick one.
And i would be happy if you'd have answered my original post rather than going off topic.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Again did i bicker at you? And what is it you want, if they clean out tge trolls you say it's convenience and if they don't you say we're impartial just pick one.
And i would be happy if you'd have answered my original post rather than going off topic.

The bickering was in general reference to all folks bashing heads on here, in an attempt to discredit the other party, I'm merely stating facts.


Mods cleaning up the gibberish on here is most appreciaited, but the users who throw racist slurs openly ought to be banned, and they haven't been banned.


As for BAF pilots, our brave sons haven't had the chance to prove their skills post '71, but should anyone threaten our hard fought sovereignty, you're most invited to watch the engagements on telly and make your own judgements.



Besides Bangladesh is a country with different priorities than compared to Pakistan, which needs an army just to get through the night, given the various threats you face. Only time will tell whats to come for both countries, but please do ask your countrymen to behave themselves and get over 71 and all this talk of "traitors" and "treachery".

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

As for BAF pilots, our brave sons haven't had the chance to prove their skills post '71, but should anyone threaten our hard fought sovereignty, you're most invited to watch the engagements on telly and make your own judgements.

Well that all depends on who your adversary is we have proven ourselves against the very best be it the Indian tactics learned through Russians or the Israeli pilots trained by US. But i highly doubt your claims just because BAF hasn't caught up to the standards of the modern air forces of today and your forces also lack a modern equipments, training or tactics.

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Well that all depends on who your adversary is we have proven ourselves against the very best be it the Indian tactics learned through Russians or the Israeli pilots trained by US. But i highly doubt your claims just because BAF hasn't caught up to the standards of the modern air forces of today and your forces also lack a modern equipments, training or tactics.

Okay, believe what you must.

 

[Mr.Cringeworth]

Besides Bangladesh is a country with different priorities than compared to Pakistan, which needs an army just to get through the night, given the various threats you face. Only time will tell whats to come for both countries, but please do ask your countrymen to behave themselves and get over 71 and all this talk of "traitors" and "treachery"

To be very honest with you we don't ever really think or talk about Bangladesh in our day to day life, the only time we ever think about Bangladesh is in the context of cricket for most Pakistani's it's comparable to Sri lanka.
And why should i be responsible for someone else's behaviour?

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

To be very honest with you we don't ever really think or talk about Bangladesh in our day to day life, the only time we ever think about Bangladesh is in the context of cricket for most Pakistani's it's comparable to Sri lanka.
And why should i be responsible for someone else's behaviour?

This is an international forum for people from all places to come and share their views and perspectives, as such each one of us is representing our country. Therefore, we ought to call users out, if they are giving the wrong impression of ones nation and its people. Besides racism is a global problem and letting it slide, only shows complacency which at times is taken as encouragement by those who make these racist remarks.


Do you think in Bangladesh we discuss Pakistan 24/7, we discuss one neighbour more than the rest and its India for obvious reasons. Pakistan only comes up during news bulletins (usually some skirmish with India), during cricket, or when Politicians need votes.

The average Bangladeshi does not discuss 71 and all the atrocities 24/7, take it from someone who has last family members to mindless violence, the effects of which still haunt our family, we simply do not discuss Pakistan.


Despite what you may think, we are not obsessed with Pakistan, to the level that you and India are with each other.

 

[Slav Defence]

Behave yourselves.

 

[Bengal71]

Wrong.

He was trained by PAF , not by any other airforce. You just got him due to his ethnicity with no input.

And PAF airforce was our airforce, their salaries and equipment also paid for by our tax money.

 

[Michael Corleone]

Couldn’t resist to post this

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No offense to anyone, just the flow of convo demanded this meme

Lmao ironic that this meme is coming from the same people who would call Matiur Rahman a traitor but make Saiful Azam a hero just because the latter shot down more aircrafts.
Funny is both of them wanted to fight for East Pakistan (Bangladesh’s) cause in 1971

IMO a nation whom has characters touting "ummah chummah" don't have a right to claim Saif ul-Azam as theirs...they lost it the day they mocked the concept of the "ummah." Saif ul-Azam fought for a state that doesn't exist today, and fought for an ideal some among us mock. Thus, the few among us have ruined it all.

And he attempted to fight against Pakistan in 71...

It was Pakistan who gets training from different countries and train also different countries. after he left he didnt contribute anything to BAF.
he was Pakistani we trained him and sent him to mission.. you cant take away this from Pakistan bangladesh actually killing those who support united Pakistan other wise we hardly see MM Alam praise by bangladesh just cuz he decide to live in Pakistan.
Pray for him instead of crying for no reason.

Really? He was the base commander of Dhaka airbase and served in flight safety and instructor roles. And retired early on his own accord after airforce coup
Again no one is trying to take away anything from Pakistan. It’s Pakistanis who’s trying to discredit his identity or skills as if his skill was unique to a Pakistani and Pakistani alone.
I don’t see any Americans here trying to steal a dead mans glory just because they trained him

 

[StormBreaker]

Lmao ironic that this meme is coming from the same people who would call Matiur Rahman a traitor but make Saiful Azam a hero just because the latter shot down more aircrafts.
Funny is both of them wanted to fight for East Pakistan (Bangladesh’s) cause in 1971


And he attempted to fight against Pakistan in 71...


Really? He was the base commander of Dhaka airbase and served in flight safety and instructor roles. And retired early on his own accord after airforce coup

I think you don’t know the uniqueness of military men.

They can be of anywhere even if India, If they show bravery, a soldier deserves respect for Their feat.

But here, SaifulAZAM was in PAF Wardi, So i need not debate more.

This whole debate is pointless...

 

[DalalErMaNodi]

Lmao ironic that this meme is coming from the same people who would call Matiur Rahman a traitor but make Saiful Azam a hero just because the latter shot down more aircrafts.
Funny is both of them wanted to fight for East Pakistan (Bangladesh’s) cause in 1971


And he attempted to fight against Pakistan in 71...


Really? He was the base commander of Dhaka airbase and served in flight safety and instructor roles. And retired early on his own accord after airforce coup
Again no one is trying to take away anything from Pakistan. It’s Pakistanis who’s trying to discredit his identity or skills as if his skill was unique to a Pakistani and Pakistani alone.
I don’t see any Americans here trying to steal a dead mans glory just because they trained him

gugu gaga lab nai lab nai

 

[StormBreaker]

Lmao ironic that this meme is coming from the same people who would call Matiur Rahman a traitor but make Saiful Azam a hero just because the latter shot down more aircrafts.
Funny is both of them wanted to fight for East Pakistan (Bangladesh’s) cause in 1971


And he attempted to fight against Pakistan in 71...


Really? He was the base commander of Dhaka airbase and served in flight safety and instructor roles. And retired early on his own accord after airforce coup
Again no one is trying to take away anything from Pakistan. It’s Pakistanis who’s trying to discredit his identity or skills as if his skill was unique to a Pakistani and Pakistani alone.
I don’t see any Americans here trying to steal a dead mans glory just because they trained him

And the “Ghoron” refers to Pak/BD here while gadhay refers to Libya so no need to get upset.

 

[Michael Corleone]

And the “Ghoron” refers to Pak/BD here while gadhay refers to Libya so no need to get upset.

Getting upset over stupid stuff is not my traits

I think you don’t know the uniqueness of military men.

They can be of anywhere even if India, If they show bravery, a soldier deserves respect for Their feat.

But here, SaifulAZAM was in PAF Wardi, So i need not debate more.

This whole debate is pointless...

There’s no debate to be had in the first place

 

[Imran Khan]

He was a citizen of British Raj at a time, so your point ?

the point is will ever BD send forces to jordan for defend them or did BD send forces in 1973 war ?

jordan send f-5 fighters to paksitan and pakistan send pilots to jordan . there is nothing BD that time and there will be never BD send or receive military help from jordan .