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In this Thursday, Dec. 10, 2015 photo, Mounis Hammouda, left, and Hisham Shaban sit in a small room at an immigration detention center in Eloy, Ariz. (AP)

The Associated Press, Florence, Ariz Sunday, 15 May 2016


Mounis Hammouda and Hisham Shaban were stranded in Honduras, penniless after being ripped off by a smuggler who was supposed to get them to Mexico so that they could arrive at their final destination, the United States.

The Palestinian men had traveled across the world to escape bloodshed and torture in their homeland, and desperately phoned a friend in Canada to wire them money so they could finish their trek.

When they showed up at the U.S.-Mexico border in November 2014, Hammouda remembers seeing the American flag, and feeling relieved.

“I know that America is a country of freedom. It’s a country of opportunity. It’s a country of democracy. Everybody knows that America is a country that helps the world,” he said.

They presented themselves at the Mariposa Port of Entry in Nogales, Arizona, claiming asylum. The FBI cleared the men and said they didn’t pose a threat, and they were turned over to Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

After spending over a year in a detention center, Hammouda posted bail with the help of a fundraiser and Shaban remains.

“Thank God things are good. I finished with the detention and I have freedom,” Hammouda said.

Hammouda remains in Tucson and is learning English. He is in the process of obtaining a work permit.

The migrants are part of a global refugee crisis emanating from the Middle East that has touched off a political uproar in Europe and the U.S., highlighted by GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump’s call for a temporary ban on Muslim immigrants.

The immigrants being apprehended on the U.S.-Mexico border often take much longer journeys than the typical path of refugees who settle in camps and endure long waits to gain official refugee status and a home in the U.S.

Some simply grow frustrated and make the trek across the globe on their own to come to America.

Some migrants cross into the U.S. illegally; others, like Hammouda and Shaban, turn themselves claiming asylum. They were among nearly 42,000 people to seek asylum in 2014 in the U.S., a more than 20 percent increase from 2010.

Immigrants claim asylum because they believe they will face persecution or torture in their homeland.

They can stay in the U.S. if an asylum officer and immigration judge determine that such a fear exists.

Many are detained during this process, but some are granted bail while their request moves through the immigration court system, which can take years.

The process is different for refugees, who must first be accepted by the U.S. before they come here. Many of them lose patience and find alternative ways to get to a safer place, said Muzaffar Chishti, of the non-partisan Migration Policy Institute.

Chishti, who heads the institute’s office at the NYU School of Law, said the migration of Middle Eastern and Asian residents to the United States is growing.

“There has to be some informed smuggling network and the existence of those networks in those countries is a factor,” he said. “I think the bigger concern about this population is the security issue, which is where the Trump and Ted Cruz of the world are saying, ‘Hey this is a vulnerability now.’”

Hammouda, 30, said he fled Gaza in 2011 after members of Hamas, the Islamic political party, tortured his father because he worked for Fatah, a rival organization. He said his family was targeted.

He said he had to drop out of college and quit his pursuit of a law degree. He was blacklisted and couldn’t find work.

Relatives helped him find money and a visa to leave Gaza in 2011. He traveled alone to Cairo, Istanbul, and both parts of Cyprus before settling in a refugee camp in the Greek-controlled part.

Thousands of miles away in Gaza, Hammouda’s family feels the pain of his ordeal.

His father Jameel Hammouda said he misses his son but knows he can’t return. The elder Hammouda spends his days on a bed at the guest room and only leaves the house to see a doctor or have medical exams.

“I don’t want Mounis to come back here. I want to leave and be with him away from here,” he said.
Shaban, 32 also grew up in Gaza. He said his family lived next door to a Hamas operative who was the target of a bombing that left Shaban’s family home destroyed. None of his relatives was injured, but he said he felt unsafe.

After two years of studying social work, Shaban saved up money and left in 2010. He lived in a government-funded apartment before losing funding and moving to the camp in Kofinou, in the Greek-controlled part of Cyprus, he said.

He met Hammouda there, where the men bonded over being unable to work as the economy tanked and their government aid shrunk. There was no work for the men and nothing for them to do, they said.

The men heard one day that they didn’t need a visa to enter Venezuela, so they spoke with Greek immigration officials who agreed to let them go there, even funding portions of their flights, they said.

They arrived in Caracas in March 2014, and eventually made it to Nicaragua, where they lived for a short time, at one point in the streets. They found a man who agreed to help them get from Nicaragua to Mexico for $1,000 each.

But the smuggler only got them as far as Honduras, and the men were left without any money or a place to stay, they said.

Using money wired by a friend in Canada, they made it to Mexico, were detained by authorities for a time and released, and then turned themselves in at the border in Arizona in 2014.

While Hammouda has been released, Shaban has been denied asylum and has been ordered removed from the country, but the government hasn’t found a place to send him because Palestine is not an officially recognized state.

ICE spokeswoman Yasmeen Pitts O’Keefe said the agency is still working with Saudi Arabia, where Shaban was born, to obtain travel documents. But Shaban said that the country won’t accept him because he is not a citizen.

“I just came here to come and live in America, not to make problems,” Shaban said.



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...Shaban was born in Saudi Arabia, but Arab nations do not allow Palestinians born on their territory to become citizens.

You can learn a lot from reading these stories carefully. The official UN definition of a refugee is someone who "owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to, or owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country." This definition is what the US used when choosing to extend refugee status to Hammouda and not to Shaban.

And it is a definition that doesn't apply to millions of fake Palestinian "refugees" who are stateless because of policies like Saudi Arabia's - policies of clear discrimination against them.

The real Palestinian refugee in this story, the refugee from Hamastan, shows the stark difference between the million of real refugees worldwide and the millions of fake Palestinian "refugees."
 
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With falsified reports like these, you wonder why Trump's attacks on the media resonate so well with the populace. These two individuals just sought citizenship outside of Palestinian land. They were not facing any 'torture' nor 'escaping' from anybody. Fatah operates all over Gaza. His family are normal people that get salaries from the PA. All that is mentioned is a home of a government member was targeted by an Israeli air strike, but that is common in Gaza, it won't be a reason for one to leave. He left to seek citizenship elsewhere. Yet media is spinning off as 'escape from Hamas'.

The AFP, probably has connections with immigration officials, and gave the two men condition to be allowed to remain, to give them a propaganda piece that benefits Israel. Or they simply framed their own narrative without knowledge of the two men.

The media needs to be regulated by Trump when he takes up the White House.
 
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...Shaban was born in Saudi Arabia, but Arab nations do not allow Palestinians born on their territory to become citizens.

You can learn a lot from reading these stories carefully. The official UN definition of a refugee is someone who "owing to a well-founded fear of being persecuted for reasons of race, religion, nationality, membership of a particular social group or political opinion, is outside the country of his nationality, and is unable to, or owing to such fear, is unwilling to avail himself of the protection of that country." This definition is what the US used when choosing to extend refugee status to Hammouda and not to Shaban.

And it is a definition that doesn't apply to millions of fake Palestinian "refugees" who are stateless because of policies like Saudi Arabia's - policies of clear discrimination against them.

The real Palestinian refugee in this story, the refugee from Hamastan, shows the stark difference between the million of real refugees worldwide and the millions of fake Palestinian "refugees."

What the Zionists fail to tell the world is WHY was this man was born in Saudi? Just like so many other Palestinians who because of atrocities and barbarism had to flee their homeland, and seek refuge in neighboring countries.

BUT the Zionist BARBARIANS don't like it when we talk about the root cause!
 
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Regardless of where they were born (and why), they made the choice to enter USA illegally, and therefore made themselves subject to relevant US laws and due process, which will now take its course fairly.
 
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Regardless of where they were born (and why), they made the choice to enter USA illegally, and therefore made themselves subject to relevant US laws and due process, which will now take its course fairly.

Things must really be bad in the rest of the world if people are willing to risk life and limb to cross the planet just to jump the wall into an "Escape from New York" situation. :coffee:
 
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Things must really be bad in the rest of the world if people are willing to risk life and limb to cross the planet just to jump the wall into an "Escape from New York" situation. :coffee:

Oh no. The rest of the world is doing just fine, and USA is a bankrupt hellhole. The future belongs to China, that is why all those seeking an even better life risk all to go there.

Oh wait........ :D
 
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  • Oh no. The rest of the world is doing just fine, and USA is a bankrupt hellhole. The future belongs to China, that is why all those seeking an even better life risk all to go there.

    Oh wait........ :D

    Yes there are lots of people in this hemisphere crossing into Africa through the hungry lion savannahs just to get to Russia and China!! Lots of stories about refugees in rowboats crossing the Pacific east to west too..oh wait.
 
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Regardless of where they were born (and why), they made the choice to enter USA illegally, and therefore made themselves subject to relevant US laws and due process, which will now take its course fairly.
Usually YES, but with Zionists in the equation = Not so sure
 
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  • Yes there are lots of people in this hemisphere crossing into Africa through the hungry lion savannahs just to get to Russia and China!! Lots of stories about refugees in rowboats crossing the Pacific east to west too..oh wait.

Besides, if Zionists are to blame, why did these men risk life and limb to get to the Land of Great Satan? Quite perplexing, to say the least!
 
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Besides, if Zionists are to blame, why did these men risk life and limb to get to the Land of Great Satan? Quite perplexing, to say the least!

I'll take the zionists instead of my neighbors:

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Plus Zionists have more money so the crazies attack and rob their houses instead of mine.
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They provide a great buffer zone otherwise this could be me!
 
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If these are your neighbors in USA, you need to move somewhere more civilized, like Canada or something! :D

I'll take the zionists instead of my neighbors:

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Plus Zionists have more money so the crazies attack and rob their houses instead of mine.
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They provide a great buffer zone otherwise this could be me!
 
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Oh no. The rest of the world is doing just fine, and USA is a bankrupt hellhole. The future belongs to China, that is why all those seeking an even better life risk all to go there.

Oh wait........ :D

Now for you peeps, I have a question, these dudes instead of crossing 8 countries just to get here, why dont they go to that country? Why here? Its not that we have Megan Fox or Jessica Alba here... But if thats the case, I understand...

Besides, if Zionists are to blame, why did these men risk life and limb to get to the Land of Great Satan? Quite perplexing, to say the least!

Good point @Syed.Ali.Haider my friend!!! How you been buddy? Its been a while.
 
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