Gufi
RETIRED TTA
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beyond the 67 border is illegal, and is done by force. if housing price increases you do not go and occupy other people's lands. that is illegal i hope that concept is clear.As the years passed, the apartment prices in Tel Aviv and central Israel in general, became higher and higher. The settlements offered an alternative, a low-price house with a community feeling, just 20-30 min drive from Tel Aviv. You'd be surprised to know that most of the citizens labeled as settlers, meaning people who live beyond the 67' border, are not there because of some agenda, but rather social economic reasons. In a way I think the government wanted this situation to happen.
yes i know the story of the ultra right and the importance in the political circles. but the followers are radicals, just like the leaders of many terrorist organisations enjoying alcohol while their foot soldiers blow alcohol shops up, that does not make the radicals right or unaccountable. Every concerned government authority advised that the settlers who commit these crimes be labelled terrorists years ago, and I guess since you are well versed in history I do not need to tell you this is not even a problem of ten years but much longer.For a long time, the settlements became the Israeli "wild west", where the mainstream education is decaying. That's when the radicals come in. The religious leaders that control the settlers are not ultra-Orthodox, but rather their political rivals. The more influence they have, the more power they seize over the religious institute in Israel, but that's another story. This sect is the one that is swaying away from Israeli mainstream, at least media-wise.
But yes every government agency advised labelling them as terrorist but apparently it was a religious or racial thing where after your attorney general and your internal intelligence advised that they be labelled as terrorists and tried as such they get off with slaps on the wrist even if they are caught or cases filed.
to leave peacefully is to go back to the beginning where there were no issues, but no Israeli government would do that. thus this argument and discussion is theoretical at best.I hope to bring to knowledge that there are people in Israel who are sick of this. I am personally tired of talking about who killed who, who came first, and who started. That kind of stuff doesn't solve problems. I have tons of facts that can dissolve the existence of the Palestinian people, but how does that help anyone? We need to focus on the ones that made these problems be, and that's the Israeli government, Hamas, Fatah and other scumbag governments.
anyway will continue this later, reply if you have a meaningful answer, debating for the sake of running around in circle as is being done here by others is cumbersome.