Pak's intrusions on borders triggered 1965 war: Durrani

[Comet]

Sir banglades too pakistan's part. Why dont pakistan claim bangladesh? Why our kashmir? Sir pakistan itself not able to stand on its feets what would he feed to our kashmir? It was india's kashmir who helped pakistan in earth quake crisis sir.

You need to wakeup dude. Take some coffee or something.

Bangladesh is an Independent country. We have nothing to do with it now. We don't share border with it. and so on

on the other hand Kashmir is a disputed territory. Kashimiris are being divided by the LOC. This matter needs to be resolved. And stop saying stupid things like OUR Kashmir because its not your's.

P.S. Pakistan is standing on its feet, you don't have to worry about it.

 

[Bhushan]

Mr ISRO....Our Kashmir (LOL). Have you ever been to kashmir? I bet you won't come back in single peice if you say same in Srinagar.Kashmiris are more pakistanis than most Pakistanis .Kashmir prodouces enough to feed itself and so does pakistan . I hope India has enough to feed itself .

For your kind information Kashmiris cannot be Pakistanis as Pakistan considers Kashmir as an Independent state. So Kashmiris will always be know as Kashmiris or Indian Kashmiris(as Kashmir is an integral part and a province of India) and will never be as Pakistani Kashmiris.

 

[Bhushan]

Mr ISRO....Our Kashmir (LOL). Have you ever been to kashmir? I bet you won't come back in single peice if you say same in Srinagar.Kashmiris are more pakistanis than most Pakistanis .Kashmir prodouces enough to feed itself and so does pakistan . I hope India has enough to feed itself .

civfanatic have you ever been to Indian Kashmir?Have you ever been to Srinagar? No.....???????? Then how come you know about Indian kashmiries???? I have been to Kashmir several times, worked for Indian Army there, even in small villages and returned in single peice!!!!! Kashmiris are Indians.

 

[civfanatic]

civfanatic have you ever been to Indian Kashmir?Have you ever been to Srinagar? No.....???????? Then how come you know about Indian kashmiries???? I have been to Kashmir several times, worked for Indian Army there, even in small villages and returned in single peice!!!!! Kashmiris are Indians.

Im a Kashmiri and I live in srinagar. If you guys are sensible enough you would have deduced it from the orginal post and wont have come up with petulant screams like we have worked with this or that so we can speak for kashmiris . Fact is for most Kashmiris Pakistan is the country they love even to irrational extent and this does not need a certificate from an Indian .

 

[ejaz007]

civfanatic have you ever been to Indian Kashmir?Have you ever been to Srinagar? No.....???????? Then how come you know about Indian kashmiries???? I have been to Kashmir several times, worked for Indian Army there, even in small villages and returned in single peice!!!!! Kashmiris are Indians.

You live in denial mode. Kashmiris are not Indians.

If they are Indians than why are they protesting against India since 1947 and what is happening since 1989. Around 70,000 have been killed since 1989. Why were so many people killed? Ever wondered about that?

 

[Bhushan]

If they are Indians than why are they protesting against India

By that logic Baluchis are not Pakistanis...Right???

 

[EjazR]

You live in denial mode. Kashmiris are not Indians.

If they are Indians than why are they protesting against India since 1947 and what is happening since 1989. Around 70,000 have been killed since 1989. Why were so many people killed? Ever wondered about that?

Armed conflict only began in 1989 onwards with support from bases in Pakistan. There was no militancy before, neither was there any armed protest. Kashmiris in India could have sabotaged Indian plans in 65 and 71 wars but they didn't.
In 1998 when Kargil happened it was a muslim Shepard who notified the Army of the rapid infiltration happening.

I have family friends and distant relatives in Kashmir and settled in Hyderabad. I can assure you that everyone of them hates militants and terrorists that cause mayhem in Kashmir. They might not like the army and para-miltary forces either (main the para military forces who cause problems) but atleast there is some accountability and they can get prosecuted for human rights violation (which they do). They also do provide some protection from militatns when they do their job professionally. These militants wreck people's lives, rape women (yes mostly muslim women), and kill civilians.

So no, they don't want people from Pakistan coming in to Kashmir to "help" them. A section of Kashmiris mostly in the border towns want Independence from both India and Pakistan. They want to fight this through dialogue. But a good section of muslims in the valley, and almost all muslims from Jammu and Ladakh want to stay with India. And ofcourse the Buddhist and Hindus prefer India.

Pakistani politicians realize this and that is why the "Independence" option is always denied to Kashmirs, wether they be in Pakistan or India.

 

[manojb]

Listen carefully indian. Look within your own borders for the answer. Look at the disputed territories. You'll get your answer. We will never shake hands with you till the issue is resolved. Rather than accept that, india prefers to make new ones, like spreading lies about Pakistan, and trying to control flow of water. This man durranis an idiot. Move on.

Dont spread false propaganda. There is no water dispute between Indo-Pak. Period. See this is the problem, spreading false notions.

 

[EjazR]

the issue of water was in india's favour

I think he is referring to the recent Indus water controversy over Baghliar dam. World Bank sent its representatives along with Pakistani and Indian counterparts and found that no violation had occurred. There was less water because, less water came from the Himalayas that year. Even the Pakistani reps agreed on that.

Despite various problems, the Indus water treaty is the longest standing treaty that has not been violated.

J&K Says No To Pak's Compensation Claims Over Indus Treaty
Indus Waters Treaty - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[praveen]

The question is, are you sure its going to be a conventional war? Lets not forget that both sides are nuclear armed. And we're actually a step ahead of our counterparts as far as Nuclear Weapons Delivery systems are concerned.

Delivery systems fine but do you have the sufficient nukes?
You can't dent a country like India with nukes with 10-15kt yield.You need atleast 4000-5000 nukes to destroy india .That's a superpower arsenal you have there

I think you're assumption is flawed when you say that in case of a convetional/Nuclear war, India wouldn't be on the losing edge. There's a reason why Pakistan maintains a first-strike capability. The nuclear build-up in the region isn't progressing because Pakistan would want to see itself suffer in case of a war with an enemy, thrice its size.

Your nukes are for deterrence not for warfighting.Deterrence is working because you are saying first-strike .

Lets just hope that it doesn't come down to this. If we end up triggering another war, total annihilation would follow for both nations.

lets hope


Stuart Slade is my source

sorry will post again when I have time

 

[R.A.W.]

the issue of water was in india's favour

Kashmir is still a disputed territory. Are you.......obtuse?


And I suggested to the admin for your stupid nickname to be changed (or you to be banned). It's amazing how you were even allowed on here with a nick like that. Take your raw and shove up some bovine rectum.

When we have you we dont need anyone else

 

[civfanatic]

Armed conflict only began in 1989 onwards with support from bases in Pakistan. There was no militancy before, neither was there any armed protest. Kashmiris in India could have sabotaged Indian plans in 65 and 71 wars but they didn't.
In 1998 when Kargil happened it was a muslim Shepard who notified the Army of the rapid infiltration happening.

I have family friends and distant relatives in Kashmir and settled in Hyderabad. I can assure you that everyone of them hates militants and terrorists that cause mayhem in Kashmir. They might not like the army and para-miltary forces either (main the para military forces who cause problems) but atleast there is some accountability and they can get prosecuted for human rights violation (which they do). They also do provide some protection from militatns when they do their job professionally. These militants wreck people's lives, rape women (yes mostly muslim women), and kill civilians.

So no, they don't want people from Pakistan coming in to Kashmir to "help" them. A section of Kashmiris mostly in the border towns want Independence from both India and Pakistan. They want to fight this through dialogue. But a good section of muslims in the valley, and almost all muslims from Jammu and Ladakh want to stay with India. And ofcourse the Buddhist and Hindus prefer India.

Pakistani politicians realize this and that is why the "Independence" option is always denied to Kashmirs, wether they be in Pakistan or India.

Im amazed at how you have come to conclusions based on your interaction with few kashmiris who according to your account are residing in hyderabad .
Just becuse there wasn't an armed struggle before 1989 does not mean that Indian rule was not challenged . Both of my grandfathers were incarcerated for half a decade in 1947 for organizing resistance against India in 1947 . In 1965 an militant organization named alfatah was formed to help pakistan . We failed does not mean we didn't try .
We don't have much problem with your army or para millatry except that they are agents of a brutal occupation . Indian army has no accountablity they can kill anybody can arrest anyone and are safeguarded by draconian laws like AFSPA(armed forces specila powers act ).
You are way off mark in saying that only people in border towns demand freedom . The sentiment for azaadi is strongest in Kashmir valley though what azaadi means to diffrent people differs .For sizeable majority of people it means accesion to pakistan . In towns like sopore and barramulla talking against accesion to pakistan almost means branding oneself traitor .

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

india's grasp on most of Kashmir is artificial, and india is loosing her grip on the rope.

the freedom begins from Sri Nagar

 

[civfanatic]

For my Indian friends let me post some pics . hope these bring you out of delusion where you say things like our kashmir .

 

[civfanatic]