Pakistan's terrible idea to develop battlefield nukes

[IceCold]

When there are people like hoodboy within our ranks, we don't need any foreigner to fuel and feed this propaganda. So according to the author everything is Pakistan's mistake. He talks about terrorism sponsored by Pakistan yet very conveniently forgets the terrorism sponsored by India into Pakistan resulting in the breakup.
battlefield nukes serves a purpose of deterrence unless the author wants us to take his word that India has no cold start doctrine.
Pakistan for now is not focused on India, rather TTP which has some serious mysterious power behind it making it capable of attacking even the most secure locations. And the rather shocking thing to all of this is the criminal silence of our government apart from Maliks usual ranting about the so called foreign hand behind it. This is the threat we are focused on currently not India and not anyone else.

 

[Luffy 500]

I guess the author is wrong as PAK didn't have any other alternative than tactical nukes faced with a crippling Economy , Yanki imposed TOT and India's conventional weapon superiority. Even the yankis deployed tactical nukes via nato to counter the soviets. The writer should blame the Indians for their hegemonic terrorist policies in the region.

 

[Ticker]

When there are people like hoodboy within our ranks, we don't need any foreigner to fuel and feed this propaganda. So according to the author everything is Pakistan's mistake. He talks about terrorism sponsored by Pakistan yet very conveniently forgets the terrorism sponsored by India into Pakistan resulting in the breakup.
battlefield nukes serves a purpose of deterrence unless the author wants us to take his word that India has no cold start doctrine.
Pakistan for now is not focused on India, rather TTP which has some serious mysterious power behind it making it capable of attacking even the most secure locations. And the rather shocking thing to all of this is the criminal silence of our government apart from Maliks usual ranting about the so called foreign hand behind it. This is the threat we are focused on currently not India and not anyone else.

There was a time when I also used to get angry with Hood Bhai and people like him. No longer.

These are visionaries and have a vision for Pakistan and are as much Pakistanis if not more than many of us here. We should listen to them with patience and try and understand them and their thoughts.

There are realists also present in our fold, who see the world as it is and express their views. The visionaries' vision is translated in to reality by the realists. At times, temporarily though, one may feel that their direction is not akin to that of the visionaries, but it ultimately seeks the same objective.

Both are needed and both compliment our society and our nation towards a better future.

 

[Arsalan]

When there are people like hoodboy within our ranks, we don't need any foreigner to fuel and feed this propaganda. So according to the author everything is Pakistan's mistake. He talks about terrorism sponsored by Pakistan yet very conveniently forgets the terrorism sponsored by India into Pakistan resulting in the breakup.
battlefield nukes serves a purpose of deterrence unless the author wants us to take his word that India has no cold start doctrine.
Pakistan for now is not focused on India, rather TTP which has some serious mysterious power behind it making it capable of attacking even the most secure locations. And the rather shocking thing to all of this is the criminal silence of our government apart from Maliks usual ranting about the so called foreign hand behind it. This is the threat we are focused on currently not India and not anyone else.

And to further fuel this, our media reports each attack on our military forces or there bases as if the entire Pakistan armed forces have been crushed by militants!!!
Have you guys heard about the success that PA is enjoying in there operation against militants, NEVER!!

Foreign funded, corrupt media!

we need to realize the facts, Pakistani nukes are not there laying on some departmental store that TTP will take control and destry the world. They are safe and secure, TTP have tried there luck at PAF Base Kamra only to lose shamefully having all the rascals killed.
Now if they want another go, so be it!!
The Nation and the armed forces are ready to tackle them!

There are many examples of Nuclear weapons mismanagement in US but not a single one in Pakistan but this is something that will NEVER be voiced by our channels!
Even in India, there was some uranium proliferation case but its Pakistan's nukes that are unsecured...
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/14119-uranium-theft-india.html

Media is playing a very very negative role...

 

[Riteon]

I guess the author is wrong as PAK didn't have any other alternative than tactical nukes faced with a crippling Economy , Yanki imposed TOT and India's conventional weapon superiority. Even the yankis deployed tactical nukes via nato to counter the soviets. The writer should blame the Indians for their hegemonic terrorist policies in the region.

There are many examples of Nuclear weapons mismanagement in US but not a single one in Pakistan but this is something that will NEVER be voiced by our channels!
Even in India, there was some uranium proliferation case but its Pakistan's nukes that are unsecured...
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-affairs/14119-uranium-theft-india.html(

Did you even read the ARTICLE !!!!

Theft ,not state sponsored Proliferation ,nor corporate proliferation !!!.........cheap shot
Is the indian govt silent on it ...or are they pursuing the theives !!! .............Dude very cheap shot.......

 

[RazorMC]

Why does the author automatically assume that all HATFs are going to have a nuclear warhead?
Nuclear-capable does not necessarily translate to 100% nuclear-warhead.

In that case India's nuclear-sub means 100% nuclear-war.

Stop being paranoid.

 

[Kyusuibu Honbu]

Why does the author automatically assume that all HATFs are going to have a nuclear warhead?
Nuclear-capable does not necessarily translate to 100% nuclear-warhead.

In that case India's nuclear-sub means 100% nuclear-war.

Stop being paranoid.

Not necessarily, In some future time, India might use nuclear submarine for power projection in the Indian Ocean.

 

[manofwar]

Why does the author automatically assume that all HATFs are going to have a nuclear warhead?
Nuclear-capable does not necessarily translate to 100% nuclear-warhead.

In that case India's nuclear-sub means 100% nuclear-war.

Stop being paranoid.

You are quite right, that nuclear capable doesn't mean that it will have a nuclear warhead, but when you talk about the long range missiles, they are only equipped with nukes. There is no point on wasting millions of Dollars sending a missile 2000 kms away just to destroy a building.

And Nuclear Submarine's missiles are always nuke-tipped. That's the point of Nuclear ballistic submarine being a second strike option. A conventional warhead wouldn't deter the enemy, would it??

 

[ajtr]

This sure will blast away some misconceptions of many Pakistanis .. lol!

nothing can blast perceived conceptions not even the contraceptive pills......

Getting half your airforce destroyed every time doesnt count as victory?

half of india's airforce would be around 300 planes that time.

When did this happen?

Thats called perceived perception as i said before.Don Quixote style.

 

[manofwar]

. The writer should blame the Indians for their hegemonic terrorist policies in the region.

Yes indeed, we shouldn't have offered Pakistan Electricity, Bangladesh $ 1billion aid, Nepal arms and helicopters, Bhutan Security cover, sold Sri Lanka Goods worth 3% of their GDP
or protected the Maldives govt from terrorist takeover and gifted their navy OPV's.

Hegemonic Terrorism indeed!!!

 

[Arsalan]

Did you even read the ARTICLE !!!!

Theft ,not state sponsored Proliferation ,nor corporate proliferation !!!.........cheap shot
Is the indian govt silent on it ...or are they pursuing the theives !!! .............Dude very cheap shot.......

i was commenting on "Pakistan's reportedly UN-SECURED nukes and the threat they possess to the world". This is something reported EVERYWHERE and is talk of the day!
I hope you have heard of this!

 

[Ticker]

Not necessarily, In some future time, India might use nuclear submarine for power projection in the Indian Ocean.

Indian Navy even in current form can project power in the IOR.

But it can not confront other powerful navies operating in IOR.

This restricts her freedom of action considerably.

With one cruise and torpedo carrying nuke sub it can be even more effective.

The nuke ballistic missile sub will not be of much value in IOR even against Pakistan, as indian ballistic missiles can cover this area.

The ballistic missile nuke sub will be effective in assured second strike against other powerful nuclear states, if the missiles it carry can reach those countries.

If not it will have to traverse to those strategic zones from where it may threaten those powerful countries - if it can, undetected.

 

[Riteon]

i was commenting on "Pakistan's reportedly UN-SECURED nukes and the threat they possess to the world". This is something reported EVERYWHERE and is talk of the day!
I hope you have heard of this!

the world had issues because of the Armed militants adn ideologies so rampant in Pakistan....And the attacks on the bases wont be even this successful if not for traitors in the military........Assasination of governor salman [Xian] reinforced the belief of extremist in army.......Even the Pak Army was rattled by this...and restarted a thourough screening of its personnels especially those guarding the Nukes...........It was under such a scenario..US said...that IF pak ever fell to militants or islamist mullahs, we have back up plan

Indian Navy even in current form can project power in the IOR.

But it can not confront other powerful navies operating in IOR.

This restricts her freedom of action considerably.

With one cruise and torpedo carrying nuke sub it can be even more effective.

The nuke ballistic missile sub will not be of much value in IOR even against Pakistan, as indian ballistic missiles can cover this area.

The ballistic missile nuke sub will be effective in assured second strike against other powerful nuclear states, if the missiles it carry can reach those countries.

If not it will have to traverse to those strategic zones from where it may threaten those powerful countries - if it can, undetected.

Who the heck is this in TICKER's Id ? !!!.....I think some indian hacked it !!!

 

[manofwar]

Who the heck is this in TICKER's Id ? !!!.....I think some indian hacked it !!!

Stole the words from my mouth!!
At first I thought he was being sarcastic

 

[Mav3rick]

Tom Hundley | Pulitzer Center

:victory.............

Is that supposed to mean anything.....to any one?

USA always said that Pak nukes are in safe hands....but incase of a taliban takeover or islamist take over...then back up plan...comprehendo ??>

Not really. Well perhaps, officially the US has never expressed dissatisfaction but periodically, senior analysts on condition of anonymity have 'leaked' reports of US Govt.'s concerns over Pakistan's nuclear weapons and their safe guarding.

Not necessarily, In some future time, India might use nuclear submarine for power projection in the Indian Ocean.

And we shall deal with the threat accordingly