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Pakistan’s Tactical Nuclear Weapons Should Terrify You

In April 2013 Shyam Saran, convener of the National Security Advisory Board, affirmed that regardless of the size of a nuclear attack against India, be it a miniaturised version or a "big" missile, India will retaliate massively to inflict unacceptable damage.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tion-india-warns-pak/articleshow/19795988.cms
I think I'd be more worried about the mobile nuclear force which could be parked anywhere in Pakistan, fully capable of annihilating any city within reach. That is something no idiot should ignore.

Pakistan has just 10 or so more nuclear weapons, with one third of them being tactical. Where as total yield of Indian nuclear weapons is believed to far larger than Pakistan's arsenal.
You personally counted Pakistan's warheads? :-)
 
I think I'd be more worried about the mobile nuclear force which could be parked anywhere in Pakistan, fully capable of annihilating any city within reach. That is something no idiot should ignore.


You personally counted Pakistan's warheads? :-)

Numbers are based on best estimates of each country's nuclear arsenal.
 
In April 2013 Shyam Saran, convener of the National Security Advisory Board, affirmed that regardless of the size of a nuclear attack against India, be it a miniaturised version or a "big" missile, India will retaliate massively to inflict unacceptable damage.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tion-india-warns-pak/articleshow/19795988.cms

https://indianexpress.com/article/india/two-front-war-not-a-good-idea-says-top-general-5082346/

The general also emphasised that Pakistan’s nuclear deterrence had reduced the window for conventional conflict
 
Numbers are based on best estimates of each country's nuclear arsenal.
Exactly. All guesswork. Means nothing at all. We'll only find out when MILLIONS are dead on both sides and survivors live an absolutely painful life for the rest of their short days, while water and food is poisoned, agriculture and infrastructure is next to nothing.
 
If Pakistan loses territory due to quantitative advantage of Indian Army, there'll be nothing more to lose. For an Army, losing significant territory is unacceptable. Pakistan Army is determined (and Indian spy networks know this well) to use tactical weapons on Indian Army inside Pakistan's territorial boundaries. The weapons are so sophisticated that there's no counter on field and India might lose tens of thousands of soldiers in just less than 10 blows.

If Indian policy says that in that case, it will do a counter attack with full force.. that's fine.. But does India have the guts to do that fully knowing the second strike capability of Pakistan and an unknown reach of Pakistani ballistic missiles? Will it risk lives of 100s of millions and going back to the year 1900 to start over just because it has lost some thousands of soldiers and lost the land that didn't belong to them in the first place?

This is the question that confuses Indian strategists.. Pakistan is ready.. and that shows in the response given at LoC from time to time. India is not ready and doesn't want to risk a little progress it has made in the past couple of decades.

Pakistan might lose its 90% population.. but India will also lose the same percent.. if not quickly, over the years when they will have to deal with post nuclear diseases, waste lands, destroyed industry etc.. It will be all over for the sub continent and the neighboring countries.

In my honest opinion, west will keep a balance on the conventional theater and keep on providing gadgets that give enough strength to a highly trained Pakistani force. They know that the training and some advanced gadgets will effectively challenge an Indian advance that relies on quantity more than quality.
 
Pakistan’s Tactical Nuclear Weapons Should Terrify You
By Kyle Mizokami

April 10, 2020


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Of all the countries in the world, just nine are believed to have developed nuclear weapons. One member of this exclusive club is Pakistan, a country that occupies a unique strategic position on the Indian subcontinent. An ally of the United States and China and archenemy of India, Pakistan has developed a nuclear arsenal to suit its own particular needs. Unusually among the smaller powers, Islamabad has developed an arsenal of tactical nuclear weapons designed to destroy enemy forces on the battlefield.

Pakistan began developing nuclear weapons in the 1950s, but the country’s nuclear program accelerated in the mid-1970s after the detonation of “Smiling Buddha”, India’s first nuclear weapons test. Enemies since the end of the British Raj in 1947, India and Pakistan fought again in 1965 and 1971. In Pakistan’s view as long as India was the sole owner of nukes it could engage in nuclear saber-rattling and had the ultimate advantage.

Experts believe that Pakistan has between 150 and 180 nuclear bombs. It’s not clear when the country first had an operational, deployable weapon, but by the mid-1990s it had weapons to spare. On May 28, 1998, in response to a series of Indian nuclear tests, Pakistan detonated five devices in a single day, with a sixth device two days later. Four of the devices detonated on the 28th were tactical nuclear weapons, with explosive yields in the subkiloton (less than 1,000 tons of TNT) to 2-3 kiloton range.

Tactical nuclear weapons, also called nonstrategic nuclear weapons, are low-yield (ten kilotons or less) nuclear weapons designed for use on the battlefield. Unlike larger, more powerful strategic nuclear weapons, tactical nuclear weapons are meant to destroy military targets on the battlefield. Tactical nuclear weapons are meant to be used against troop formations, headquarters units, supply dumps, and other high-value targets.

Tactical nuclear weapons are important to Pakistan’s defense posture. Pakistan has a gross domestic product of just $305 billion, about the size of the state of Indiana. Pakistan has an active duty army of 767,000. Although the majority of the force is infantry, a substantial portion is fully mechanized with tanks, infantry fighting vehicles, self-propelled artillery, attack helicopters, and anti-tank missiles.

India has a GDP of $2.597 billion, an active army of 1.2 million, and greater amounts of equipment of every category. The Indian Army is larger by every metric, and in many cases fields larger numbers of qualitatively superior equipment--particularly tanks. In an all-out ground war, the Indian Army would almost certainly prevail. The Indian Army is sufficiently large that until 2004 it envisioned blunting a Pakistani ground offensive and then launching a counterattack with three “Strike Corps” of three divisions, all highly mechanized and each including at least one armored division.

Pakistan’s nuclear weapons, particularly tactical nuclear weapons, are seen as an asymmetric means of offsetting India’s advantage in conventional forces. Even if a Pakistani Army offensive into India fails and the Strike Corps counterattacked, tactical nuclear weapons could blunt their spearheads, ideally halting them in their tracks.

Pakistan has an unknown number of tactical nuclear weapons, but we can get an idea of how many exist by counting delivery systems. A report by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists claims that the country has approximately 20-30 transporter-erector-launcher (TEL) vehicles designed to carry the NASR/Hatf-9 short-range ballistic missile. The TEL is a four-axle vehicle that can carry two or more NASR missiles. Assuming each TEL is armed with two NASR missiles with a single warhead each, Pakistan has somewhere in the area of 60 tactical nuclear weapons, or approximately one-third of its arsenal.

NASR is a solid rocket fuel missile with an operational range of just 43 miles. As the Bulletin report points out, short-range rules out using the weapons against meaningful targets in India, meaning they are more likely defensive weapons to be used against Indian Army units in Pakistani territory. This could also imply that the weapons are of very small explosive yield, as no country would want large nuclear explosions on its own territory.

One interesting question is that, given the fast-moving nature of modern warfare and the slow-moving nature of modern political decision making, Pakistan has already chosen target zones to launch against should Indian tanks roll into them and would delegate launch authority to the Army in times of war. If the political debate starts once the tanks arrive, the TELs could be overrun by the time a decision is made. Very small warheads would also have a very small area of effect, and a delay of just minutes could cause even a nuclear explosion to miss a battalion or more of tanks on the move.

Pakistan’s tactical nuclear weapons, while intrinsically unsavory, are at least defensive in nature. Unfortunately, given the number of times India and Pakistan have gone to war over the last eighty years, their use is theoretical than those of most countries. The use of nuclear weapons by one side could rapidly escalate to the use of larger, strategic weapons against populated areas by both sides.

Could Pakistan and India both give up their nuclear arms? Pakistan’s reliance on tactical nuclear weapons to offset weakness in conventional weapons will make it hard for Islamabad to divest itself of its nuclear arms. Once nuclear weapons are acquired it becomes extremely difficult to un-acquire them, and Pakistan will be no exception.

Kyle Mizokami is a writer based in San Francisco who has appeared in The Diplomat, Foreign Policy, War is Boring and The Daily Beast. In 2009 he cofounded the defense and security blog Japan Security Watch

https://nationalinterest.org/blog/buzz/pakistan’s-tactical-nuclear-weapons-should-terrify-you-142937


This article so full of factual errors, and obvious fantasy-based opinions that he should be ashamed of having written it, and they should feel shame in having published it.

I'm sure a primary school student could have done a better job.
 
> Indian formations are nuked on the border.
> India says that there will be a "strategic" response to the battlefield nukes.
> India thinks that Pakistan does not have second strike capability for strategic response.
> India risks mutually assured destruction by going ahead with "strategic response"

The equation is simple. Pakistan is deterred by Indian second strike capability if Pakistan thinks of a decapitation strike. India is deterred from initiating shallow invasion (cold start) by the Tactical Nukes.

India's claim that if their formations are nuked near Gujranwala by tactical nukes, they will give a "strategic" response is just plain bullsh*t.

The crazies I have seen responsible for these tactical strikes, are crazy enough to go ahead with the strikes without a second thought. (This is actually really scary for the future of the region )

But we need to look at the positive side of the policies. With Pakistan's resolve of using tactical nukes and India's efforts to build a robust second strike capability balance each other out. (However Pakistan's deployment of long range nuclear cruise missiles on submarines will complicate situation)

This means no major war. People on both sides of the border continue to live in peace.
 
If Pakistan loses territory due to quantitative advantage of Indian Army, there'll be nothing more to lose. For an Army, losing significant territory is unacceptable. Pakistan Army is determined (and Indian spy networks know this well) to use tactical weapons on Indian Army inside Pakistan's territorial boundaries. The weapons are so sophisticated that there's no counter on field and India might lose tens of thousands of soldiers in just less than 10 blows.

If Indian policy says that in that case, it will do a counter attack with full force.. that's fine.. But does India have the guts to do that fully knowing the second strike capability of Pakistan and an unknown reach of Pakistani ballistic missiles? Will it risk lives of 100s of millions and going back to the year 1900 to start over just because it has lost some thousands of soldiers and lost the land that didn't belong to them in the first place?

This is the question that confuses Indian strategists.. Pakistan is ready.. and that shows in the response given at LoC from time to time. India is not ready and doesn't want to risk a little progress it has made in the past couple of decades.

Pakistan might lose its 90% population.. but India will also lose the same percent.. if not quickly, over the years when they will have to deal with post nuclear diseases, waste lands, destroyed industry etc.. It will be all over for the sub continent and the neighboring countries.

In my honest opinion, west will keep a balance on the conventional theater and keep on providing gadgets that give enough strength to a highly trained Pakistani force. They know that the training and some advanced gadgets will effectively challenge an Indian advance that relies on quantity more than quality.
Bartan dholo bhaii :D:D
 
In April 2013 Shyam Saran, convener of the National Security Advisory Board, affirmed that regardless of the size of a nuclear attack against India, be it a miniaturised version or a "big" missile, India will retaliate massively to inflict unacceptable damage.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.co...tion-india-warns-pak/articleshow/19795988.cms

That's just rhetoric, it won't happen. Nobody will do something that would destroy their nation just because they failed an offensive manoeuvre.
 
Indian policy is clear, you use Nukes of any kind, it's Nuclear war the response may be disproportional. The reason why Americans and Russians didn't make more TNW and armed their respective armies with it is that it gives low ranking military men operating batteries too much power, rather the fate of the nation hangs in the hands of these men, unlike a central nuclear command involving different checks and balances.

Who will source nukes to India?
Here's how Pakistani nuclear test looked like, where is evidence or data of your tests?
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You see, the Indian mentality is based around the perceived fantasy that India has a lot less to lose in a nuclear war and Pakistan has a lot to lose, that India will come out as the "winning side" in a nuclear war. Pakistan on the other hand feels that its survival is at stake and if India launches a pre-emptive strike, it might be annihilated, hence Pakistan must make sure secondary strike capability is guaranteed to work in order to decapitate the enemy as a last measure.
 
Pakistan has just 10 or so more nuclear weapons, with one third of them being tactical. Where as total yield of Indian nuclear weapons is believed to far larger than Pakistan's arsenal.

Considering India has 4.5 times more land area than Pakistan, 6 times more population, a missile defence system in the process of deployment and a true nuclear triad. Indian nuclear response would be far more devastating for Pakistan, than Pakistan's for India.

We have su-30 .....Pakis are no match = Abhinandan happened
We have better nukes , bigger in size .... Pakis are no match = Still don't have the guts to attack and occupy.
 
Pakistan has just 10 or so more nuclear weapons, with one third of them being tactical. Where as total yield of Indian nuclear weapons is believed to far larger than Pakistan's arsenal.

Considering India has 4.5 times more land area than Pakistan, 6 times more population, a missile defence system in the process of deployment and a true nuclear triad. Indian nuclear response would be far more devastating for Pakistan, than Pakistan's for India.

Where did you learn your maths and the number we got is 10 or so?? Lol if one third is the tactical weapons of at least 180 nuclear weapons for the argument sake which makes it approximately 60 Pakistan have got are tactical, as most Military institutes are claiming while real figure no one knows . Silly boy did you forgot about two third which almost equate to almost 120.
How many big Indian cities are in India you tell me? Even India shoots down 20 missiles miraculously somehow which is unlikely so what about the rest of 100 which will get through do you even understand what it will do to Indian Mata. Don't live in your make believe world and think you can cause us more devastation. We do understand as due to the size of Pakistan it will be bit more destructive and as they say you can't kill the dead twice but then again their will be nothing left of India too.
I will suggest to you brush up on your maths and read up bit more on nuclear holocaust and nuclear winter and perhaps have a few more pints you know what so you can get some enlightenment.
 
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