Pakistan’s Super Mushshak Grabbing World Trainer Aircraft Market Share

[war&peace]

bold comment because my laptop keyboard is not working, i can't do more by using onscreen keyboard
rest ; I haven't bring India in this thread and already said BEST OF LUCK

I see that's the lamest BS excuse..so dismissed.

Pakistan has started exporting and made a place in the global market since it is more important than designing something ourselves for decades and then essentially declaring it a junk as happened in the case LCA...only the ego of Indian govt and DRDO is forcing them to keep burning the money in LCA kiln otherwise IAF has essentially rejected while JF-17 despite having certain issues is flying and also secured orders and its place in the world and its subsequent versions will be better and more capable blk-III will be a true air superiority A/C and with each iteration Pakistan's experience in designing and development of an A/C is increasing while in parallel we are getting orders and a foothold in the market which is more important for example many tier 1 and 2 suppliers have struggled for example Sweden has struggled with securing orders for its Grippen JAS 39 despite being an excellent platform.

 

[f1000n]

Iraq ordered 20 in early 2014 and there's still no sign of 1 delivery for a simple aircraft. Contract must've been cancelled

 

[Mustang06]

Congratulation!

 

[untitled]

Congratulations, can this trainer be used in light-attack/CAS/recce mode?

Yes the Pak army uses it as a spotter and recce aircraft. It can be modified to carry rockets and machine guns

 

[Jammer]

i would like to see n appreciate if pak will start design, testing n development in pakistan.

PAC Super Mushshak is developed from Saab MFI-17 n about JF 17,designed by soviet n developed by china.

pakistan should otherwise after 20-30 years later, pak will still buying aircraft from other country

A great achievement! Also, Mr. Sankpal I find applying Burnol as good treatment for even severe burns.

 

[hussain0216]

Iraq ordered 20 in early 2014 and there's still no sign of 1 delivery for a simple aircraft. Contract must've been cancelled

There were issues from iraqi side, if you remember this was the time when ISIS took over a bunch of territory and even threatened Baghdad, alot of iraqi resources had to be redirected

Not sure what the status of contract is

Iraq still has requirement so maybe contract/supply will begin as soon as iraqis give go ahead

 

[khail007]

i would like to see n appreciate if pak will start design, testing n development in pakistan.

PAC Super Mushshak is developed from Saab MFI-17 n about JF 17,designed by soviet n developed by china.

pakistan should otherwise after 20-30 years later, pak will still buying aircraft from other country

Dear, we are far behind in R&D and still in the initial learning phase of aircraft designing/manufacturing. Please appreciate our learning curve and efforts in marketing.

 

[wiseone2]

I always enjoy seeing a butt-hurt Indian. It's such an enjoyable sight.

Meray munna, tell me, which operational Indian aircraft is based on Indian R&D based design/concept/tech? Forget R&D, is there even a single aircraft which is in operation and which was "Made in India" ?

It is essentially a clone of Saab MFI-17. It is still a good job for Pakistan to make it under license

India is well past the phase
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_HF-24_Marut

I see,

Pakistan has started exporting and made a place in the global market since it is more important than designing something ourselves for decades and then essentially declaring it a junk as happened in the case LCA...only the ego of Indian govt and DRDO is forcing them to keep burning the money in LCA kiln otherwise IAF has essentially rejected while JF-17 despite having certain issues is flying and also secured orders and its place in the world and its subsequent versions will be better and more capable blk-III will be a true air superiority A/C and with each iteration Pakistan's experience in designing and development of an A/C is increasing while in parallel we are getting orders and a foothold in the market which is more important for example many tier 1 and 2 suppliers have struggled for example Sweden has struggled with securing orders for its Grippen JAS 39 despite being an excellent platform.

India has high profile R&D failures - LCA is one of them. But you have to set the bar high and try.

 

[salarsikander]

India is well past the phase
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HAL_HF-24_Marut

Irrelevant to the topic. Please post your chest thumping somewhere else

India is well past the phase

Of copying or license building?
I don't think so the mighty sukhoi is still license built

 

[wiseone2]

Irrelevant to the topic. Please post your chest thumping somewhere else


Of copying or license building?
I don't think so the mighty sukhoi is still license built

if the suggestion is that India cannot make a trainer under license you are way off

Irrelevant to the topic. Please post your chest thumping somewhere else


Of copying or license building?
I don't think so the mighty sukhoi is still license built

The Su-30 is more like assembled. a lot of critical components come from Russia.

 

[salarsikander]

if the suggestion is that India cannot make a trainer under license you are way off

Not, It wasnt. It was to warn you from gong-off topic

 

[wiseone2]

Not, It wasnt. It was to warn you from gong-off topic

re-read post # 4

 

[salarsikander]

re-read post # 4

Err.. going by that merits it still doesnt qualify as such

 

[DESERT FIGHTER]

Iraq ordered 20 in early 2014 and there's still no sign of 1 delivery for a simple aircraft. Contract must've been cancelled

Not as per our defence production minister ..
Maybe they were delivered ?

They are mainly used for 3 purposes in Pak:

Transport by senior officers
Recon & arty observation
Training

But can be armed with FLIR and possibly light weapons

Iraq ordered 20 in early 2014 and there's still no sign of 1 delivery for a simple aircraft. Contract must've been cancelled

Not as per our defence production minister ..
Maybe they were delivered ?

They are mainly used for 3 purposes in Pak:

Transport by senior officers
Recon & arty observation
Training

But can be armed with FLIR and possibly light weapons

 

[Pathan khan]

Pakistan should start new aviation projects .they must built new generation fighter jets along with trainners and helis