Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Path-Finder]

FN SCAR has serious issues in hot enviroment and FN did nothing to improve it. if your tests are tough as you say you would find this out. So if your army has selected this flawed weapon than something definitely smells there

friend can you elaborate further on how you know this? Thanks.

 

[Kompromat]

* B-6 units will remain in service. New Pistol will follow up. Could be a Berretta or CZ.

* 7.62x51 LMG tender has a few potentials, MG-4, MKEK LMG or Minimi in .308

* hk is not allowed to sell to Pakistan due to the Govt policy, that leaves Minimi to be the predominant choice. Once the tender is issued, all competitors will be invited and the winner will transfer production to Pakistan.

Large no. of Sarsilmaz B6 pistols were imported / assembled by a local company. The civilian reviews were bad. Didn't army test it before making any purchase ?

And what about Minimi LMG for regular infantry?

 

[Vergennes]

If Pakistan really choose the FN Scar,then congrats. @Zarvan

If that is not the case,an ambulance has just departed to Pakistan and will remain in stand-by. Better to be prepared for every situations. @Path-Finder

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[Kompromat]

SCAR passed hot'n high tests exceeding 50°c.

FN SCAR has serious issues in hot enviroment and FN did nothing to improve it. if your tests are tough as you say you would find this out. So if your army has selected this flawed weapon than something definitely smells there

 

[Path-Finder]

If Pakistan really choose the FN Scar,then congrats. @Zarvan

If that is not the case,an ambulance has just departed to Pakistan and will remain in stand-by. Better to be prepared for every situations. @Path-Finder

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Journey from Marseilles to Pakistan is a long one will it arrive in time?

 

[El Fuego]

We had few FN SCAR 7,62x51 in our inventory and we did lot of training with Peruian Army which has a larger number of these weapons. As our Peruian coleagues had more experience they have same experience: weapon is dangerous in hot areas as it can fire chambered bullet itself. And than there were reports of rifles exploding during army trials, buffer breaking etc. whole scandal about that in Peru.

 

[Zarvan]

FN SCAR has serious issues in hot enviroment and FN did nothing to improve it. if your tests are tough as you say you would find this out. So if your army has selected this flawed weapon than something definitely smells there

We tested SCAR H mainly and it had no issues in fact it passed all tests with flying colors

 

[Vergennes]

Journey from Marseilles to Pakistan is a long one will it arrive in time?

It will surely arrive in time,but we nicely ask @Horus not to kill @Zarvan before our ambulance is prepared.

 

[Path-Finder]

We had few FN SCAR 7,62x51 in our inventory and we did lot of training with Peruian Army which has a larger number of these weapons. As our Peruian coleagues had more experience they have same experience: weapon is dangerous in hot areas as it can fire chambered bullet itself. And than there were reports of rifles exploding during army trials, buffer breaking etc. whole scandal about that in Peru.

Did a quick search and found this interesting comment on it. BUT SCAR performed the best in trials
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/09/19/peru-fn-scar-rifle-controversy/

Peruvian here. This is what I've heard from people related to this matter: Officers that wrote negative feedbacks about these rifles have been removed & replaced by others who wrote new reviews; apparently there's a HUGE bribe scam behind this that involves high-ranking military officers and politicians.
Test rifles were deployed to local jungle combat theater against drug dealers/maoist terrorists; chopper (Mi-8?) carrying troops was shot down while unloading troops and none of the SCARs (Apparently 6 or so) survived the crash; Galils were heavily damaged too but kept firing and were used by wounded survivors to repeal the ambush.
Some people tried without success to upgrade currently available weapons, mainly FALs with modern hardware; apparently they were seen as a menace to many interests.

Unless deployed to specialized units, average Peruvian soldier could break an AK (I've seen them do it) in no time.

Currently our armed forces are equipped with the following MBRs: refurbished N. Korean AKMs (Cops; little remaining ammo for them; among armed forces runs the rumor that it's a crime against humanity to use 7.62x39mm.), HK G-3s (Cops; bought in the early '80s; stored after the AKs arrived in the late '80s but now redeployed and used with Chinese-made 7.62NATO ammo issued by the Army), AK-47s (Air Force), 5.56 Galils (Army, Navy and maybe Air Force too), FALs (Both FN and Argentinian-made; Army, Air Force and Navy) and a hodgepodge of assorted guns that include various M-16/AR style rifles (Usually cops fighting in the jungle theater), Daewoos (Navy) and 5.56 HKs (91? 93?; used by cops & Navy).

Holded a SCAR some time ago. Wouldn't use it as a doorstop, less as a weapon in the terrible climate, geographical and logistical nightmare our poor troops have to endure.

 

[The Sandman]

Did a quick search and found this interesting comment on it. BUT SCAR performed the best in trials
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/09/19/peru-fn-scar-rifle-controversy/

Peruvian here. This is what I've heard from people related to this matter: Officers that wrote negative feedbacks about these rifles have been removed & replaced by others who wrote new reviews; apparently there's a HUGE bribe scam behind this that involves high-ranking military officers and politicians.
Test rifles were deployed to local jungle combat theater against drug dealers/maoist terrorists; chopper (Mi-8?) carrying troops was shot down while unloading troops and none of the SCARs (Apparently 6 or so) survived the crash; Galils were heavily damaged too but kept firing and were used by wounded survivors to repeal the ambush.
Some people tried without success to upgrade currently available weapons, mainly FALs with modern hardware; apparently they were seen as a menace to many interests.

Unless deployed to specialized units, average Peruvian soldier could break an AK (I've seen them do it) in no time.

Currently our armed forces are equipped with the following MBRs: refurbished N. Korean AKMs (Cops; little remaining ammo for them; among armed forces runs the rumor that it's a crime against humanity to use 7.62x39mm.), HK G-3s (Cops; bought in the early '80s; stored after the AKs arrived in the late '80s but now redeployed and used with Chinese-made 7.62NATO ammo issued by the Army), AK-47s (Air Force), 5.56 Galils (Army, Navy and maybe Air Force too), FALs (Both FN and Argentinian-made; Army, Air Force and Navy) and a hodgepodge of assorted guns that include various M-16/AR style rifles (Usually cops fighting in the jungle theater), Daewoos (Navy) and 5.56 HKs (91? 93?; used by cops & Navy).

Holded a SCAR some time ago. Wouldn't use it as a doorstop, less as a weapon in the terrible climate, geographical and logistical nightmare our poor troops have to endure.

I really hope Pak Army is aware of this scandal.

We had few FN SCAR 7,62x51 in our inventory and we did lot of training with Peruian Army which has a larger number of these weapons. As our Peruian coleagues had more experience they have same experience: weapon is dangerous in hot areas as it can fire chambered bullet itself. And than there were reports of rifles exploding during army trials, buffer breaking etc. whole scandal about that in Peru.

Thanks for sharing it with us here.
@Arsalan so CZ bern will be the final option than? and when you think they will finalize on which rifle they're going for?

If Pakistan really choose the FN Scar,then congrats. @Zarvan

If that is not the case,an ambulance has just departed to Pakistan and will remain in stand-by. Better to be prepared for every situations. @Path-Finder

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[Zarvan]

I really hope Pak Army is aware of this scandal.

Thanks for sharing it with us here.
@Arsalan so CZ bern will be the final option than? and when you think they will finalize on which rifle they're going for?

Final option is SCAR in x 51 category and in x 39 category decision is not made yet specially because even BREN failed at endurance test.

 

[Gryphon]

CZ, FN and Beretta were shortlisted last year. That means they were satisfactory in the tests.

 

[Path-Finder]

Final option is SCAR in x 51 category and in x 39 category decision is not made yet specially because even BREN failed at endurance test.

how did it fail endurance test?

 

[my name is nobody]

Meanwhile in France: French special forces (GIGN) has selected new rifle to replace HK 416..guess what?

 

[Talwar e Pakistan]

We had few FN SCAR 7,62x51 in our inventory and we did lot of training with Peruian Army which has a larger number of these weapons. As our Peruian coleagues had more experience they have same experience: weapon is dangerous in hot areas as it can fire chambered bullet itself. And than there were reports of rifles exploding during army trials, buffer breaking etc. whole scandal about that in Peru.

I guess they fixed it