Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Gryphon]

I suppose we need to wait for the unveiling of BREN 807 with a x51 magazine.

Look at the top of the chart.

 

[Zarvan]

Hazrat @Zarvan is accepting that a x51 BREN is in existence but yet to be unveiled to the public denial as well? Hazrat these are rifle trials not a court case for land rights! but don't worry I will be good to your love.

SCAR is the best rifle in Trials


you are on Hazrat @Zarvan list of people who will not get a eid card from him now!! I suppose we need to wait for the unveiling of BREN 807 with a x51 magazine.

SCAR is the best rifle in Trials

I am not until they show it. If BREN was participating in 7.62 X 51 category why they are not showing the Gun. It's a dam Gun not a nuclear weapon for love of GOD. Till now BREN has shown 5.56 and 7.62 X 39 caliber Assault Rifles I would believe X 51 exists when I see it. Also all other members are denying that BREN is participating in X 51 category including MODS.

Look at the top of the chart.

Yes and I salute the Guy who is calling 7.62 X 39 Rifle 7.62 X 51

 

[Army research]

I am not until they show it. If BREN was participating in 7.62 X 51 category why they are not showing the Gun. It's a dam Gun not a nuclear weapon for love of GOD. Till now BREN has shown 5.56 and 7.62 X 39 caliber Assault Rifles I would believe X 51 exists when I see it. Also all other members are denying that BREN is participating in X 51 category including MODS.


Yes and I salute the Guy who is calling 7.62 X 39 Rifle 7.62 X 51

Sir jee, look at the picture thoroughly. Zoom in at various points it says .51 and why do you care so much whether they show it or not , probably deal was sealed of a customized pakistani version and they were showing .39 for general marketing at IDEAS

 

[The Eagle]

Yes and I salute the Guy who is calling 7.62 X 39 Rifle 7.62 X 51

Bro, chart stating 7.62 x 51 cartridge used.... that the gun existed, trialed and offered hence presentation on stall. What on earth makes them CZ to play fool like this... It's a serious business here..... Also, as read it that CZ 807 is with flexible option on two places to turn it into 7.62 x 51 by replacing the mag insertion and ejector cap I think..... However, 807 in picture is displayed with 7.62 x 39 configuration...... by the same logic if 7.62x39 wasn't displayed but x51, will take it as x39 doesn't exist, obviously Not.... wanted to say for much clearer understanding...

 

[Zarvan]

Sir jee, look at the picture thoroughly. Zoom in at various points it says .51 and why do you care so much whether they show it or not , probably deal was sealed of a customized pakistani version and they were showing .39 for general marketing at IDEAS

Yes but with that they have also written CZ 807 and CZ 807 is 7.62 X 39 caliber rifle not 7.62 X 51 caliber. This Chart and entire presentation done here is showing bad picture of BREN as a company

Bro, chart stating 7.62 x 51 cartridge used.... that the gun existed, trialed and offered hence presentation on stall. What on earth makes them CZ to play fool like this... It's a serious business here..... Also, as read it that CZ 807 is with flexible option on two places to turn it into 7.62 x 51 by replacing the mag insertion and ejector cap I think..... However, 807 in picture is displayed with 7.62 x 39 configuration...... by the same logic if 7.62x39 wasn't displayed but x51, will take it as x39 doesn't exist, obviously Not.... wanted to say for much clearer understanding...

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Ask them if they could have used IDEAS 2016 to display new CZ 807 7.62 x 39 caliber Rifle why they didn't showed 7.62 X 51 Caliber Gun why hide it when pakistan is looking for both caliber Guns

 

[The Eagle]

Ask them if they could have used IDEAS 2016 to display new CZ 807 7.62 x 39 caliber Rifle why they didn't showed 7.62 X 51 Caliber Gun why hide it when pakistan is looking for both caliber Guns

As far as I understand, 7.62x51 is not a whole new gun but with couple of replacement, the same 7.62x39 becomes 7.62x51. Basic weapon is the same but couple of changes makes them to fall in different category like a multi-role single gun. So for the display, it would have been like the same gun but with different mags and there is no other difference. It is basically a flexible platform that user can convert the same into any caliber like 5.56 to 7.62X39 or x51 as needed that says, there is no need to change the gun but required parts like coking bolt and mag inserting area/holder.

 

[Tiger Awan]

A guy deeply in love with SCAR is right about the picture

BREN and the management at IDEAS all got it wrong. It was not 7.62x51 but 7.62x39

After all what BREN knows about arms and different calibres. @Zarvan thanks for correcting WHOLE WORLD

 

[Zarvan]

A guy deeply in love with SCAR is right about the picture

BREN and the management at IDEAS all got it wrong. It was not 7.62x51 but 7.62x39

After all what BREN knows about arms and different calibres. @Zarvan thanks for correcting WHOLE WORLD

They could have shown 7.62 X 51 caliber Rifle in front of the chart but they didn't. They show CZ 807 7.62 X 39 caliber Rifle so they themselves are mockery of themselves not me. If BREN 7.62 X 51 has given so phenomenal performance in trials it was time to present the Rifle and use IDEAS 2016 to do it.

Just talked to @Horus on twitter and he says that this 7.62 X 51 is DMR

 

[Tiger Awan]

They could have shown 7.62 X 51 caliber Rifle in front of the chart but they didn't. They show CZ 807 7.62 X 39 caliber Rifle so they themselves are mockery of themselves not me. If BREN 7.62 X 51 has given so phenomenal performance in trials it was time to present the Rifle and use IDEAS 2016 to do it.

They are not trying to sell it to extra skeptical guy like you or they would have. Poor souls

 

[Path-Finder]

I am not until they show it. If BREN was participating in 7.62 X 51 category why they are not showing the Gun. It's a dam Gun not a nuclear weapon for love of GOD. Till now BREN has shown 5.56 and 7.62 X 39 caliber Assault Rifles I would believe X 51 exists when I see it. Also all other members are denying that BREN is participating in X 51 category including MODS.


Yes and I salute the Guy who is calling 7.62 X 39 Rifle 7.62 X 51

Hazrat @Zarvan this is a rifle trial and you are acting like nauzubillah we are contradicting Quran Hadith & Sunnah!! Why is this so personal for you? secondly They have displayed a BREN 807 with a x39 setup that can possibly be chambered in x51 as well! I am pretty that @TheOccupiedKashmir would not make up such tall claims.

But for your sake; SCAR is the best rifle in Trials

Look at the top of the chart.

According to Hazrat @Zarvan the CZ people are morons and they have written x51 instead of x39 a mistake they have made three times on the chart once on the top and twice on the bottom right where it's mentioned as 7.62x51 and 0.308 Win

SCAR is the best rifle in Trials

They could have shown 7.62 X 51 caliber Rifle in front of the chart but they didn't. They show CZ 807 7.62 X 39 caliber Rifle so they themselves are mockery of themselves not me. If BREN 7.62 X 51 has given so phenomenal performance in trials it was time to present the Rifle and use IDEAS 2016 to do it.

Just talked to @Horus on twitter and he says that this 7.62 X 51 is DMR

Hazrat @Zarvan you are still not grasping it! The Rifle BREN 807 displayed as x39 can also be modded to chamber and fire x51!!! as in the chassis can support a barrel change magwell change and bolt carrier change to make it x51. making it modular rifle!!!

SCAR is the best rifle in Trials

 

[Gryphon]

According to Hazrat @Zarvan the CZ people are morons and they have written x51 instead of x39 a mistake they have made three times on the chart once on the top and twice on the bottom right where it's mentioned as 7.62x51 and 0.308 Win

SCAR is the best rifle in Trials

As the official said 'CZ has performed extraordinarily well in both categories and is the only company which is offering (and had tested) full package to Pakistan Army' and also confirmed the LoU, I am waiting for experts / insiders (or whatever you call them) to take a look.

 

[Zarvan]

As the official said 'CZ has performed extraordinarily well in both categories and is the only company which is offering (and had tested) full package to Pakistan Army' and also confirmed the LoU, I am waiting for experts / insiders (or whatever you call them) to take a look.

I already asked them and @Horus says that 7.62 X 51 of BREN is DMR not Assault Rifle to replace G3.

 

[Path-Finder]

I already asked them and @Horus says that 7.62 X 51 of BREN is DMR not Assault Rifle to replace G3.

can you Hazrat @Zarvan post their reply here since you asked CZ? so we can reach a conclusion on who is talking porkie pies. you SCAR extremist

Sir jee, look at the picture thoroughly. Zoom in at various points it says .51 and why do you care so much whether they show it or not , probably deal was sealed of a customized pakistani version and they were showing .39 for general marketing at IDEAS

A guy deeply in love with SCAR is right about the picture

BREN and the management at IDEAS all got it wrong. It was not 7.62x51 but 7.62x39

After all what BREN knows about arms and different calibres. @Zarvan thanks for correcting WHOLE WORLD

SCAR is the best rifle in Trials

I already asked them and @Horus says that 7.62 X 51 of BREN is DMR not Assault Rifle to replace G3.

sorry I misread that! So CZ BREN from not being in the competition for x51 is now in it as DMR? before it was it not at all competing for x51 trials and just x39 trials to DMR? That is a great big U turn Hazrat @Zarvan

 

[Zarvan]

can you Hazrat @Zarvan post their reply here since you asked CZ? so we can reach a conclusion on who is talking porkie pies. you SCAR extremist





SCAR is the best rifle in Trials


sorry I misread that! So CZ BREN not being in the competition for x51 is now in it as DMR? before it was it not at all competing for x51 trials and just x39 trials to DMR? That is a great big U turn Hazrat @Zarvan

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can you Hazrat @Zarvan post their reply here since you asked CZ? so we can reach a conclusion on who is talking porkie pies. you SCAR extremist





SCAR is the best rifle in Trials


sorry I misread that! So CZ BREN not being in the competition for x51 is now in it as DMR? before it was it not at all competing for x51 trials and just x39 trials to DMR? That is a great big U turn Hazrat @Zarvan

I said what @Horus told me. He has good contacts and he is insisting that BREN is not competing to replace G3. It's only in competition for Type 56 for G3 it's Berreta ARX 200 and SCAR H

 

[Path-Finder]

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I said what @Horus told me. He has good contacts and he is insisting that BREN is not competing to replace G3. It's only in competition for Type 56 for G3 it's Berreta ARX 200 and SCAR H

have you got the specific tweet instead of me plowing through so many tweets and secondly I rather have it from official sources like CZ or PA!!

unless i am wrong Horus mentioned that Ak103 performed better after it had been dropped and yet earlier we were told it didn't perform that well. that threw more confusion into the mix rather than clarifying anything!

Now DMR will be x51 and DMR currently is what rifle G3? so you have gone from NO, BREN is only in x39 to DMR which is always x51?? can you see the tectonic shift in your arguments?