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Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

Which rifle should win the competition?

  • FN-SCAR-H

    Votes: 241 42.9%
  • Beretta ARX-200

    Votes: 62 11.0%
  • CZ-806 Bren2

    Votes: 116 20.6%
  • Kalashnikov AK-103

    Votes: 127 22.6%
  • Zavasta M21

    Votes: 17 3.0%

  • Total voters
    562
We are changing caliber of our guns now??
From 7.62 to 5.56??
Also is AK12 also in competition???
I don't think Zarvan indicated that the caliber would change.
 
The best option is the HK417, not the MKEK MPT-76.
We already produce it's ammo, and it's H&K, so we shouldn't have much problems to adapt to the new rifle.

And before we start buying some silly Turkish guns, look at the quality of their weapons!
I agree they're not the same manufacturer and stuff, but still look at the utter fail of that gun.
 
The best option is the HK417, not the MKEK MPT-76.
We already produce it's ammo, and it's H&K, so we shouldn't have much problems to adapt to the new rifle.



76 is pretty much a clone of 417... And uses the same 7.62 calib.
And before we start buying some silly Turkish guns, look at the quality of their weapons!
I agree they're not the same manufacturer and stuff, but still look at the utter fail of that gun.

Yeah that shotgun sucks ... A frnd bought it and curses himself for that.. But you can't compare a civilian shotgun to the brand new standard rifle adopted by Turkish military ..
 
QBZ-95 and QBZ-95-1, QBZ-97 [Type 95, 95-1 and 97] assault rifle (People Republic of China)




5.8x42mm QBZ-95 assault rifle, left side view




5.8x42mm QBZ-95 assault rifle, right side view; magazine is removed and a 4X telescope sight is installed




5.56x45mm QBZ-97 / Type 97 assault rifle; note different magazine port, designed to accept STANAG / M16-type magazines





improved 5.8x42mm QBZ-95-1 (Type 95-1) assault rifle



5.8x42mm QBZ-95-1 (Type 95-1) short assault rifle (carbine) with new 35-mm underbarrel grenade launcher



Data for QBZ-95 (QBZ-97 in parenthesizes, where differs from QBZ-95)
Caliber: 5.8x42 mm (5.56x45 mm NATO)
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 760 mm
Barrel length: 520 mm
Weight: 3.4 kg unloaded
Rate of fire: ~ 650 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds

In the late 1980s Chinese designers developed a 5.8 x 42 cartridge, apparently designated DBP87, which is claimed to be superior to both the 5.56 mm NATO and the 5.54 mm Soviet. This cartridge develops a muzzle velocity of 930 metres per second from a standard barrel, with a bullet weighing 4.26 gram.

As soon as the ammunition was ready, the PLA began to develop an entirely new and much more modern family of small arms based on the same action. This family, known as QBZ-95 ('Qing Buqiang Zu' = Light Rifles family, 1995), was first displayed outside the PLA in 1997, when China took over Hong Kong; it was observed that the Chinese guards were armed with a new, modern looking bullpup rifle. In fact it is one of an entirely new family of weapons, all designed around the same action and bullpup layout, which include the assault rifle, a shorter carbine, a light support weapon (with a bipod, a heavier barrel and large capacity magazine), and a sniper rifle. While being quite similar inside, these guns have different body shapes and cannot be converted from one configuration to another. The QBZ-95 line of weapons is now spreading throughout the PLA, commencing with elite units.

The QBZ-95 is a gas operated, magazine fed, automatic weapon with a bullpup layout. It has a short stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt. The charging handle is located at the top of the receiver, under the carrying handle. The housing is made from polymer, with an integral carrying handle, which holds the rear sight base, and has mounting points for optical or night vision scopes. The ejection port is made only at the right side of the weapon, so it cannot be fired from the left shoulder. Standard sights are of the open type, graduated from 100 to 500 meters. The front part of the barrel in the standard version is left unobstructed, so the QBZ-95 rifle can be used to launch rifle grenades. It also can be fitted with an underbarrel grenade launcher or with a knife bayonet. A compact carbine version, sometimes referred to as the CAR-95, cannot use either a grenade launcher or a bayonet, because of the much shortened barrel. Fire controls of QBZ-95 rifle consist of a trigger and a safety/selector switch, located (quite inconveniently) at the rear left of the receiver, behind the magazine housing. QBZ-95 can fire single shots or bursts.

The export version, QBZ-97, which is chambered for popular 5.56 x 45 NATO ammunition, is internally similar to QBZ-95, but has a different, much deeper magazine housing, which accepts a NATO-standard (M16-type) magazines.


During 2010-2011 PLA has adopted an improved version of the Type 95 / QBZ-95 rifle, known as Type 95-1 / QBZ-95-1. This rifle includes several important improvements, based on the field experience with original rifles. Polymer stock is made stronger, barrel is mproved to provide longer service life and better accuracy. Pistol grip and trigger aguard are redesigned, and selector / safety switch is moved to much more comfortable position, right above the pistol grip. Other improvements include addition of the bolt hold-open device and gas regulator. Ejection port is moved forward slightly to ensure that spent cases are ejected forward and to the right, allowing for left-hand shooting if necessary. Type 95-1 / QBZ-95-1 rifles and carbines now can be equipped with new, 35-mm underbarrel grenade launcher, known as QLG-10A. Rifle grenades still can be fired from the muzzle using special blank ammunition.
 
QBZ-95 and QBZ-95-1, QBZ-97 [Type 95, 95-1 and 97] assault rifle (People Republic of China)




5.8x42mm QBZ-95 assault rifle, left side view




5.8x42mm QBZ-95 assault rifle, right side view; magazine is removed and a 4X telescope sight is installed




5.56x45mm QBZ-97 / Type 97 assault rifle; note different magazine port, designed to accept STANAG / M16-type magazines





improved 5.8x42mm QBZ-95-1 (Type 95-1) assault rifle



5.8x42mm QBZ-95-1 (Type 95-1) short assault rifle (carbine) with new 35-mm underbarrel grenade launcher



Data for QBZ-95 (QBZ-97 in parenthesizes, where differs from QBZ-95)
Caliber: 5.8x42 mm (5.56x45 mm NATO)
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 760 mm
Barrel length: 520 mm
Weight: 3.4 kg unloaded
Rate of fire: ~ 650 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds

In the late 1980s Chinese designers developed a 5.8 x 42 cartridge, apparently designated DBP87, which is claimed to be superior to both the 5.56 mm NATO and the 5.54 mm Soviet. This cartridge develops a muzzle velocity of 930 metres per second from a standard barrel, with a bullet weighing 4.26 gram.

As soon as the ammunition was ready, the PLA began to develop an entirely new and much more modern family of small arms based on the same action. This family, known as QBZ-95 ('Qing Buqiang Zu' = Light Rifles family, 1995), was first displayed outside the PLA in 1997, when China took over Hong Kong; it was observed that the Chinese guards were armed with a new, modern looking bullpup rifle. In fact it is one of an entirely new family of weapons, all designed around the same action and bullpup layout, which include the assault rifle, a shorter carbine, a light support weapon (with a bipod, a heavier barrel and large capacity magazine), and a sniper rifle. While being quite similar inside, these guns have different body shapes and cannot be converted from one configuration to another. The QBZ-95 line of weapons is now spreading throughout the PLA, commencing with elite units.

The QBZ-95 is a gas operated, magazine fed, automatic weapon with a bullpup layout. It has a short stroke gas piston and a rotating bolt. The charging handle is located at the top of the receiver, under the carrying handle. The housing is made from polymer, with an integral carrying handle, which holds the rear sight base, and has mounting points for optical or night vision scopes. The ejection port is made only at the right side of the weapon, so it cannot be fired from the left shoulder. Standard sights are of the open type, graduated from 100 to 500 meters. The front part of the barrel in the standard version is left unobstructed, so the QBZ-95 rifle can be used to launch rifle grenades. It also can be fitted with an underbarrel grenade launcher or with a knife bayonet. A compact carbine version, sometimes referred to as the CAR-95, cannot use either a grenade launcher or a bayonet, because of the much shortened barrel. Fire controls of QBZ-95 rifle consist of a trigger and a safety/selector switch, located (quite inconveniently) at the rear left of the receiver, behind the magazine housing. QBZ-95 can fire single shots or bursts.

The export version, QBZ-97, which is chambered for popular 5.56 x 45 NATO ammunition, is internally similar to QBZ-95, but has a different, much deeper magazine housing, which accepts a NATO-standard (M16-type) magazines.


During 2010-2011 PLA has adopted an improved version of the Type 95 / QBZ-95 rifle, known as Type 95-1 / QBZ-95-1. This rifle includes several important improvements, based on the field experience with original rifles. Polymer stock is made stronger, barrel is mproved to provide longer service life and better accuracy. Pistol grip and trigger aguard are redesigned, and selector / safety switch is moved to much more comfortable position, right above the pistol grip. Other improvements include addition of the bolt hold-open device and gas regulator. Ejection port is moved forward slightly to ensure that spent cases are ejected forward and to the right, allowing for left-hand shooting if necessary. Type 95-1 / QBZ-95-1 rifles and carbines now can be equipped with new, 35-mm underbarrel grenade launcher, known as QLG-10A. Rifle grenades still can be fired from the muzzle using special blank ammunition.

ATF Balochistan use the 97...


I doubt Army will ever get this.

recoil man recoil! its almost the same as G3...

417

 
a humble suggestion to chief - sell all those G-3 to civies with valid license....you can make ton of money with that :D

btw i think it will come down to QZB, HK417 & MPT
 
Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle (Russia)

Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle, early prtotype as shown in 2013




Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle, prtotype that participated in "Ratnik" trials, photo taken in June, 2015.
Shown here with belorussian-made Red Dot (collimating) sight




Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle, prtotype that participated in "Ratnik" trials, photo taken in June, 2015




Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle, prtotype that participated in "Ratnik" trials, photo taken in June, 2015




Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle, prtotype that participated in "Ratnik" trials, photo taken in June, 2015
Note that bolt is locked back by bolt hold-open device




Author of this site is shooting AK-12 during Russian Army-2015 expo, June 2015
Gun is first fired in full automatic mode, then in 2-round bursts



Caliber

5.45x39, 7,62x39

Action

Gas operated, rotary bolt

Length, mm

945 / 725

Barrel length, mm

415

Weight, kg

3.3 (less magazine)

Rate of fire, rounds/minute

600

Magazine capacity, rounds

30, 60 or 95



Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle is a newest creation of the IZMASH factory (now part of the Kalashnikov concern). It is intended to replace in production older Kalashnikov AK-74M andAK-100-series rifles for domestic use (by Russian army and LE), as well as for export. It was first displayed to press in January, 2012, and is believed to be still in development. AK-12 apparently stands for “Avtomat Kalashnikova, 2012”. Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle is planned to be available in two versions – “light” and “heavy”, with former adapted for cartridges like 5.45x39, 5.56x45, 6.5 Grendel and 7,62x39, and the latter for more powerful cartridges like 7,62x51 NATO. The main goal in development of the Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle appears to be to improve ergonomics and tactical flexibility of the weapon, while maintaining traditional high reliability and simplicity of the parent weapon. It is yet to be seen if Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle will live up to these expectations.



During 2013 and 2014 AK-12 rifles were officially tested as a part of the Russian army "Ratnik" trials program. As a result, 5.45x39 and 7.62x39 versions of the AK-12 were recommended for initial batch production and field trials, along with its main rivals, AEK-971 series A545 and A762 assault rifles. It seems that at the time being only one version, chambered for 5.45x39 M74 ammunition, will be produced for troops trials.



Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle is gas operated, selective fire weapon using traditional “Kalashnikov type” action with long stroke gas piston and rotary bolt locking. Bolt group is noticeably lightened to decrease recol and improve accuracy in full-automatic fire. Barrel has improved rifling for better accuracy, and a revised muzzle brake. The receiver is redesigned, key modification being new top cover of more rigid design. Elongated top cover is removably attached to the receiver using two dovetails (at the middle and at the front) plus a captive cross-pin at the rear. To remove top cover, user has to push the cross pin out as far as it will go, then slide the cover back and pull it up and off the gun. Safety / fire selector unit is also revised, to provide more ergonomic ambidextrous switch with 4 positions (Safe, Semi-auto, 2-rd bursts, Automatic). Safety / selector levers are located above the pistol grip, at both sides of the gun. Charging handle is Z-shaped and is attached to the gas piston. It can be rotated to either side of the gun once the bolt group is removed from the gun during disassembly. When gun is fired, charging handle reciprocates along with the bolt. New side-folding, telescoping adjustable stock is provided for AK-12. Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle features integral Picatinny rail at the top cover, and additional accessory rails at the top and both sides of the forend. Bottom section of the forend is available in two versions – with rail (to accept various ‘tactical’ accessories like lights and foregrips) or plain one (to accept standard 40mm grenade launchers like GP-25 or GP-30). Kalashnikov AK-12 assault rifle accepts all ‘legacy’ magazines in its respective caliber, such as 30-round AKM or AK-74 and 40-round RPK / 45-round RPK-74 magazines. Additionally, new, 4-stack, 60-round box magazine and 95-round drum are planned to be issued for AK-12 chambered in 5.45mm. Gun features bolt hold-open device which is controlled by a lever, located at the front of the trigger guard, above the enlarged magazine release lever. It must be noted that this bolt hold-open device works only with modificed magazines. AK-12 also features redesigned integral iron sights. Shrouded front sight is installed above the gas block. Adjustable rear sight has reversible (rotating) blade with aperture (diopter) on one side and U-shaped notch on another. To switch between options user has to raise rear sight and then rotate the blade through 180 degrees to either side.

a humble suggestion to chief - sell all those G-3 to civies with valid license....you can make ton of money with that :D

btw i think it will come down to QZB, HK417 & MPT
Army Chief can gift me one.
 
what if its an in house built???we have come up with Sniper, DSA have come up with handgun....why the heck not have a go at Battle rifle?
The Sniper we made Sir do you really think after that we would try to design and develop our own assault rifle
 
a humble suggestion to chief - sell all those G-3 to civies with valid license....you can make ton of money with that :D

btw i think it will come down to QZB, HK417 & MPT

Let's make a bet .. If QBZ makes to the finals I'll give you a treat... If not ? :D

what if its an in house built???we have come up with Sniper, DSA have come up with handgun....why the heck not have a go at Battle rifle?


Definetly we should have continued with the PK series... But I guess dinasaurs at POF ... :lol:

P.S: Can you provide some specs of the new bolt action? Is it in mass production or what ?
 
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Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle (Italy)

Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle, early prototype (ca.2008)





Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle, production version (2013) in 5.56x45 NATO




Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle, production version (2013) in 7.62x39 M43 Russian




Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle, production version with GLX-160 grenade launcher





Beretta ARX-100 self-loading rifle for civilian use, in 7.62x39 Russian


Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle partially disassembled






Caliber: 5.56x45mm NATO, 7.62x39 M43
Action: Gas operated, rotating bolt
Overall length: 820-900 mm with 406 mm barrel and butt in ready position; 680 mm with butt folded
Barrel length: 305 mm / 12" or 406 mm / 16", quick changeable
Weight: ~ 3.1 kg with 406 mm barrel, w/o mag
Rate of fire: 700 rounds per minute
Magazine capacity: 30 rounds



The Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle is manufactured by famous Beretta company in Italy. Starting 2012, ARX-160 rifle is in use by Italian army. It is also offered for export, with initial customers being Special Forces of Algeria, Egypt and Kazakhstan (latter bought 7.62x39 version). A semi-automatic only version of the ARX-160 is offered for civilian sales as Beretta ARX-100 rifle, also in 5.56 / .223 Rem and 7.62x39.



The Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle is gas operated weapon that utilizes conventional piston-operated action, with short stroke gas piston located above the barrel. Barrel locking is achieved by more or less conventional rotary bolt. Unlike most other assault rifles, the Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle features quick-detachable barrels, which can be changed by operator in the field by depressing the barrel release button (located on right side of receiver, in front of magazine housing), pulling the barrel forward and out of the gun, and then inserting another (or same) barrel back. The receiver consists of two parts, upper (which holds barrel and bolt group) and lower (which hosts magazine housing, trigger unit and pistol grip). Both halves are made from impact-resistant polymer and connected using special quick-release locks, so there are no pins to push out (and lose). Another interesting and unusual feature of the Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle is that it has selectable left / right side ejection system with dual ejection ports (on either side of the gun) and user-switchable left / right position of cocking handle. To change the direction of empty case ejection, user has to push the cross-bolt button, located above and slightly to the rear of pistol grip, by the tip of the bullet (or other pointed item). This affects dual extractor-ejector claws, installed on the bolt, forcing them to eject spent cartridge to the desired side without any further disassembly of the gun or parts change. Charging handle, which is attached to the bolt carrier, also can be installed on either side of the gun. The Beretta ARX-160 assault rifle fires from closed bolt, in single shots and full automatic mode, and has ambidextrous safety / fire mode selector switch conveniently located above pistol grip. Upper receiver is fitted with full-length Picatinny type rail, made of aluminum, which can accommodate a wide variety of sighting equipment, including iron, telescopic, red-dot or electronic sights. Standard open sights are mounted on folding bases using rail interface. Additional lengths of Picatinny rail are installed on the forend on 3-, 6- and 9- o'clock positions. Lower (6-o'clock) position rail is strong enough to host GLX 160 40mm single-shot grenade launcher. Standard buttstock is also made of plastic, and folds to the right side. The buttstock is of telescoped, user-adjustable design.
 
Let's make a bet .. If QBZ makes to the finals I'll give you a treat... If not ? :D
as long as you are coming to Islamabad / Rawalpindi....or lets make it half way through to Kharian

Definetly we should have continued with the PK series... But I guess dinasaurs at POF ... :lol:

P.S: Can you provide some specs of the new bolt action? Is it in mass production or what ?
as per information provided by the person involved in designing the gun:
fully adjustable stock for length of pull, comb height and adjustment of the recoil pad in both axis.....AI AX stock....not in mass production yet....
 
I would love to see if we can get Russian AK 12 or

AK - KV 13
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