Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

[Zarvan]

Cut that crap, I know about the funding of that program much more than you do, besides geo-politics of 80's was much different from geo-politics of 2016

It's not different when it comes to Arab countries. Pretty much the same and also this investment from Arab would also benefit them as they would be able to buy world class weapons from us without any strings attached.

 

[Arsalan]

You never said it was separate. By the way from SMG you mean replacing MP5 or Type 56 ?

That is because i am not SAYING a lot of things. I never do. However the fact is that you CANNOT compare an SMG requirement with an assault rifle requirement and merge both. I mean, i dont think that this even required to be said. Isn't is obvious and common sense.
I did told you however, numerous times that the news we (the public) will hear will be of selection of a gun replacing the gun of whole army but that it wont be the case in actual and there will be some thousand guns procured first, distributed and then the next batches will come only AFTER that have been done and guns are used and confirmed ok at unit level.

 

[Zarvan]

That is because i am not SAYING a lot of things. I never do. However the fact is that you CANNOT compare an SMG requirement with an assault rifle requirement and merge both. I mean, i dont think that this even required to be said. Isn't is obvious and common sense.
I did told you however, numerous times that the news we (the public) will hear will be of selection of a gun replacing the gun of whole army but that it wont be the case in actual and there will be some thousand guns procured first, distributed and then the next batches will come only AFTER that have been done and guns are used and confirmed ok at unit level.

Now I am more than sure Pakistan will produce more than two rifles. Specially if Pakistan plans to use two Assault Rifles one for conventional warfare and one for Guerrilla warfare because for both we would need around 1 million rifles and sorry but buying them is way to expensive. Also stupid enough not produce them in Pakistan if you are also getting not just TOT but permission to export them.

 

[Zulqarnain.Ali]

Now I am more than sure Pakistan will produce more than two rifles. Specially if Pakistan plans to use two Assault Rifles one for conventional warfare and one for Guerrilla warfare because for both we would need around 1 million rifles and sorry but buying them is way to expensive. Also stupid enough not produce them in Pakistan if you are also getting not just TOT but permission to export them.

Everyone knows your opinion.why do you have to keep repeating it a hundred times over?

 

[Wolfhound]

Still waiting for any kind of confirmation by the officials

 

[Thorough Pro]

You not only live in your own reality but you also know everything.

Now I am more than sure Pakistan will produce more than two rifles. Specially if Pakistan plans to use two Assault Rifles one for conventional warfare and one for Guerrilla warfare because for both we would need around 1 million rifles and sorry but buying them is way to expensive. Also stupid enough not produce them in Pakistan if you are also getting not just TOT but permission to export them.

 

[SQ8]

That is because i am not SAYING a lot of things. I never do. However the fact is that you CANNOT compare an SMG requirement with an assault rifle requirement and merge both. I mean, i dont think that this even required to be said. Isn't is obvious and common sense.
I did told you however, numerous times that the news we (the public) will hear will be of selection of a gun replacing the gun of whole army but that it wont be the case in actual and there will be some thousand guns procured first, distributed and then the next batches will come only AFTER that have been done and guns are used and confirmed ok at unit level.

Rumours are abound that the whole thing might be in doldrums due to greased palms of some 2 stars and up along with a host of bureaucrats and government officials, and a less than astute system might be purchased under the guise of savings for the national exchequer.

 

[Thorough Pro]

KSA can buy anything it needs from anywhere it wants. Period.
Turkey makes it's own small arms, they are self sufficient in small arms manufacture. In fact Turkish made small arms enjoy a major share in Pakistani civilian arms market. Recent launch of 9mm pistols by POF was with the help of Turkey. You need to do some homework before making a fool out of yourself.

It would get feasible. KSA and Turkey are now being banned from getting weapons from many European countries. And if we can get weapons with TOT and permission to export we can ask KSA and other to fund them. Also we have massive civilian market.

 

[TheDarkKnight]

Rumours are abound that the whole thing might be in doldrums due to greased palms of some 2 stars and up along with a host of bureaucrats and government officials, and a less than astute system might be purchased under the guise of savings for the national exchequer.

I find it hard to believe that arx and scar are less than 'astute systems', which are the so called finalists for PA; so keeping this in mind and also considering your views as authentic, then it looks like you are referring to MPT76, the only cadidate that in my opinion can be considered less capable than scar and arx and, its selection can also fit your reference to 'national exchequer' savings.

Regards

 

[Zarvan]

KSA can buy anything it needs from anywhere it wants. Period.
Turkey makes it's own small arms, they are self sufficient in small arms manufacture. In fact Turkish made small arms enjoy a major share in Pakistani civilian arms market. Recent launch of 9mm pistols by POF was with the help of Turkey. You need to do some homework before making a fool out of yourself.

Germany and Sweden and Belgium and many other countries are putting ban on Arab countries of weapons sales. That is why we are biggest exporters of small arms to Saudi Arabia now. Yes Turkey is efficient but many African countries and many Arab countries and many South American countries are not. We already export weapons to 40 countries and we can increase the market share with new latest Assault Rifles produced by POF.

 

[Thorough Pro]

Let's talk facts and not just tall claims, what small arms do we export to KSA and what's the value? and how much of that export is for use by Saudi forces and how much is transferred to various militia's around the world?

Germany and Sweden and Belgium and many other countries are putting ban on Arab countries of weapons sales. That is why we are biggest exporters of small arms to Saudi Arabia now. Yes Turkey is efficient but many African countries and many Arab countries and many South American countries are not. We already export weapons to 40 countries and we can increase the market share with new latest Assault Rifles produced by POF.

 

[Zarvan]

Let's talk facts and not just tall claims, what small arms do we export to KSA and what's the value? and how much of that export is for use by Saudi forces and how much is transferred to various militia's around the world?

Most of G3 used by KSA are from us we are also main supplier of ammo to them. Also we are increasing sales to them. And if we can get our hands on SCAR with permission to export KSA will one of our major markets.

 

[Thorough Pro]

No they "were" not of Pakistani origin, btw most of them were replaced by G36.
Why don't you give me actual figures in a currency (with citation) how much small arms Pakistan exports to KSA, being there largest small arms supplier.

Most of G3 used by KSA are from us we are also main supplier of ammo to them. Also we are increasing sales to them. And if we can get our hands on SCAR with permission to export KSA will one of our major markets.

 

[Zarvan]

No they "were" not of Pakistani origin, btw most of them were replaced by G36.
Why don't you give me actual figures in a currency (with citation) how much small arms Pakistan exports to KSA, being there largest small arms supplier.

Yes they were replaced by G36 now Germany has put ban on sales of G36 and they are also not getting spare parts. Well no exact figures are told by POF but we are biggest supplier right now. And as bans are increasing our exports will increase

 

[Thorough Pro]

KSA is worlds largest importer of arms.
Pakistan is not even in the top 30 exporters. You see the gap? If as per your claims Pakistan was KSA's largest small arms supplier, then it should be in top 10 list? does this logic makes sense to you? does any sane thing makes sense to you besides your own facts in your own world? you spent hours and hours spreading rumors and false facts on the forum , use that time to learn, there is so much info available on the net free of cost.

Yes they were replaced by G36 now Germany has put ban on sales of G36 and they are also not getting spare parts. Well no exact figures are told by POF but we are biggest supplier right now. And as bans are increasing our exports will increase