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Pakistan's Service Rifle (G-3, Type-56) Replacement Competition 2016.

Which rifle should win the competition?

  • FN-SCAR-H

    Votes: 241 42.9%
  • Beretta ARX-200

    Votes: 62 11.0%
  • CZ-806 Bren2

    Votes: 116 20.6%
  • Kalashnikov AK-103

    Votes: 127 22.6%
  • Zavasta M21

    Votes: 17 3.0%

  • Total voters
    562
Yup, SSX is the newest one, I think they will add it as soon as they get certification on this weapon from our armed forces, since it is still being tested by our Armed Force.
How long it will take to complete tests and if any Indonesian members here have access to powerful people in Indonesian Government sitting in top positions they should ask them to lobby for this Gun and ask Pakistan to at least test this one also. If it passes tests you can earn money and reputation for your industry and we have good cost effective Gun @Indos @Jakartans@PkDef @anas_nurhafidz @madokafc @MarveL
 
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How long it will take to complete tests and if any Indonesian members here have access to powerful people in Indonesian Government sitting in top positions they should ask them to lobby for this Gun and ask Pakistan to at least test this one also. If it passes tests you can earn money and reputation for your industry and we have good cost effective Gun

This year will be completed inshaALLAH. It is Pindad estimation.

Man our Pindad guns has become famous after we won AASAM Military championship in Australia since 2008 until this year. I believe we will promote all of the guns and including this new one also.
 
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This year will be completed inshaALLAH. It is Pindad estimation.

Man our Pindad guns has become famous after we won AASAM Military championship in Australia since 2008 until this year. I believe we will promote all of the guns and including this new one also.
Still what I have asked you to do is please do it you should lobby about this new Gun contact Pakistani embassy and Military attache in our embassy ask senior leadership to do it if you have access because Pakistan is looking for new Gun with same caliber which this Gun has
 
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This year will be completed inshaALLAH. It is Pindad estimation.

Man our Pindad guns has become famous after we won AASAM Military championship in Australia since 2008 until this year. I believe we will promote all of the guns and including this new one also.

It looks like it is based on AR-10?
Yes no doubt Indonesia has a kick *** military!
 
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Still what I have asked you to do is please do it you should lobby about this new Gun contact Pakistani embassy and Military attache in our embassy ask senior leadership to do it if you have access because Pakistan is looking for new Gun with same caliber which this Gun has

I would like to be a broker between the two... :D

Pindad also will give license if the weapon buying is large
 
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Still what I have asked you to do is please do it you should lobby about this new Gun contact Pakistani embassy and Military attache in our embassy ask senior leadership to do it if you have access because Pakistan is looking for new Gun with same caliber which this Gun has
take it easy cuzz! you are little persistant
 
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Selection of an assault rifle is a momentous decision for the army planners of any country. It is not only extremely expensive but also has serious impact on the fighting ability of the country’s defence forces. Since a soldier’s life depends on it, before discussing merits & demerits on any weapon, let first agree on what qualities assault rifle should have:

1. It must be reliable, have a decent rate of fire and accurate within visual range (say about 100 meters) without telescopic sight.

2. It should be effective up at least to about 300 meters and have stopping power (one hit should incapacitate).

3. Should be cheap to produce, have a long useful life, light weight, easy to handle and not require a lot of training.

Pakistan Army has been using G-3 & Ak-47 for the last 30 -40 years or so. Army jawans have grown up with these rifles and can operate the same in their sleep. Therefore, in addition to the above, any new assault rifle must be a significant improvement on the existing weapons else there is no need to replace.

Carrying additional ammunition thru smaller calibre and also accuracy over longer distances is a definite advantage. One would also like to have day & night sights and the ability to fire multi calibre rounds. However, do these advantages enhance fighting ability of the army jawan to the extent that justifies the additional cost & expense involved in the introduction of a new assault rifle? Remember we might need about one million rifles. Assuming it costs the same as a civilian rifle (at least $1,000/-); it means upward of $1- billion!

I am not discounting the excellent rifles produced by FN Herstal of Belgium. But, in my humble opinion, since POF is already producing Heckler & Koch G-3 and also Ak-47 is various forms; one of the models linked to these rifles would probably be more cost effective.
 
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I would like to be a broker between the two... :D

Pindad also will give license if the weapon buying is large
Yes exactly order is not large it's is massive we have around more than 1 million Army and Para Military combined and we may soon increase them and also increase more marines Sir you can understand How big this can be so at least this Gun should be tested and hope for the best
 
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Can't say would be better we should give it a try to. It can be another cost effective alternate for us along with MPT-76 @Sulman Badshah
Yaaar plz for good sake get hell out of cost effective these guns which we buy are not buying on daily basis its once in 3 to 4 decades we need a gun which can serve us well till those years if we think cost effective buy ww 2 thompson plz get rid of cheap mindset

Sasti cheez royee bar bar

So guns which look like G 3 no matter how good dont even try we but TOT for the guns we can make them at POF with cost effective so plz lose the cheap mindset
 
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Yaaar plz for good sake get hell out of cost effective these guns which we buy are not buying on daily basis its once in 3 to 4 decades we need a gun which can serve us well till those years if we think cost effective buy ww 2 thompson plz get rid of cheap mindset

Sasti cheez royee bar bar

So guns which look like G 3 no matter how good dont even try we but TOT for the guns we can make them at POF with cost effective so plz lose the cheap mindset
Still with current budget we have to look for cost effective solution
 
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Still with current budget we have to look for cost effective solution
Bhai once u got TOT prices wont matter now price is in ur hands and with TOT u can sell to others there is budget to buy best HK 417 is good for army
 
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Looks like zarvan and me have a good chemistry understanding each other thanx dear respectfull friend zarvan
 
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No decision on the final contenders etx... But a board has been formed to select the suitable (replacement) rifle for the military... Say bye bye to G-3s for good this time..

G3 is battle rifle.. are we doing away with this category completely? will assault rifle fill it then?

no hint about likely contender either?
Eastern European i.e. AK-47 family weapons or European ? German/ Belgian? or American?

again I hope people dont start posting carbines and sub machine guns and know the difference

I'd go for the Turkish (if it passes tests).. Reason ... It would be more affordable than getting from our old HK buddies... Besides Turkiye is out trusted brotherly nation... Good to see the increasing defence cooperation with a em..

A lot of great things coming out of it!


Weate talkin about equipping over a million men (including Para mil) .. So whatever they end up with "finally" it's going to come with ToT or licsense manufacturing.
need an all weather all climate, height weapon. whatever the initial cost. in the longer run a reliable and robust weapon will save lives, missions and money as well
 
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G3 is battle rifle.. are we doing away with this category completely? will assault rifle fill it then?

no hint about likely contender either?
Eastern European i.e. AK-47 family weapons or European ? German/ Belgian? or American?

again I hope people dont start posting carbines and sub machine guns and know the difference


need an all weather all climate, height weapon. whatever the initial cost. in the longer run a reliable and robust weapon will save lives, missions and money as well

Yes sir ... They are replacing with another "battle rifle"... I'm not sure about the contenders (will confirm later)... But notifications reguarding the replacement have been issued and a board has been formed for the selection purpose... It will probably take some time before we actually choose and produce a rifle.. The G3 is going out of business ...
 
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