Pakistan's New F-16s Can Beat India's Su-30s; Rafales Are The Counter

[Last Samuri]

P S i dont understand why the thread is only about the SU30MKI v F16

I hope pakistanis understand that these beauties IN INDIAN AIR FORCE/NAVY can also go toe to toe with PAF F16

 

[GURU DUTT]

P S i dont understand why the thread is only about the SU30MKI v F16

I hope pakistanis understand that these beauties IN INDIAN AIR FORCE/NAVY can also go toe to toe with PAF F16

cause they(hub bul watan pakistanies) think MKI is the onli potent wepon platform with IAF and they think its onli F-16 that can put up a respectable fight against MKIs

but they forget we have two squads each of latest upgraded M2Ks & Mig29s + 45 Mig29Kswhich alone that can proove more than a handfull for entise F-16 contingent of PAF

 

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if the Su30mki can beat the Typhoon 12 nil in a dog fight partly due to indian pilots superior training in WVR and partly due to the fact that SU30MKI with its TVC engines HMS and IRST package makes it far superior to Typhoon in close range combat. THEN surely the same applies to the much older F16 .

The simple fact is the TVC HMS IRST and weapons load GIVES THE MKI a very potent capability that most fighters cant get near...

In a KNIFE FIGHT its well documented the S30MKI will have the edge over the F16.

" where SU30MKI loses is its RCS and in a high speed long range BVR fight"

HAS THE PAKISTANIS KEEP TELLING US BVR ENGAGEMENT WILL NOT MATTER IN INDO PAK WAR..

For this reason india has the perfect fighter the SU30M

Busted
IAF Sukhoi vs RAF Typhoon: Controversy in the skies - Rediff.com India News

 

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Busted
IAF Sukhoi vs RAF Typhoon: Controversy in the skies - Rediff.com India News

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Read the Source before posting it
"In Within Visual Range scenarios, the Su3-MKI is expected to excel against the Typhoon because it is a highly manouevrable aircraft. But when it comes to longer-range combat exercises, the Sukhois have been 'less successful'.

 

[abdulbarijan]

if the Su30mki can beat the Typhoon 12 nil in a dog fight partly due to indian pilots superior training in WVR and partly due to the fact that SU30MKI with its TVC engines HMS and IRST package makes it far superior to Typhoon in close range combat. THEN surely the same applies to the much older F16 .

The simple fact is the TVC HMS IRST and weapons load GIVES THE MKI a very potent capability that most fighters cant get near...

In a KNIFE FIGHT its well documented the S30MKI will have the edge over the F16.

" where SU30MKI loses is its RCS and in a high speed long range BVR fight"

HAS THE PAKISTANIS KEEP TELLING US BVR ENGAGEMENT WILL NOT MATTER IN INDO PAK WAR..

For this reason india has the perfect fighter the SU30MKI

So your argument is --- since the MKI beat the typhoons 12:0 because of reasons A,B & C --- therefore an MKI would also beat an F-16 because F-16 is older compared to a typhoon ...

First off, that 12:0 statement was taken back by the IAF, since -- you know -- it was false and RAF pointed that out for ya --- and its not really the first time that the IAF well wishers have gone berserk with their claims -- Be it Indra dhanush 07 where airforce monthly completely ripped the story that was presented to IAF fanboys, or that incident with the USAF colonel's video which pretty much exposed the "greatness of the IAF" and lets not forget the Cope India's --- What was it ?? --- We beat USAF 9:1 at Cope India's -- except when the ROE's were released, the claim became comical -- which is not an understatement as Indian victory at Cope India was something like....

Floyd Mayweather going " Not bragging but --- I have knocked out Muhammad Ali " --- following it up by " M.Ali at that time was 70 years of age, had Parkinson syndrome , was fighting with both his hands tied behind his back and a couple of my boys holding him down"

and lets not ignore the great logic, where since the F-16 is older then typhoon, hence if the IAF beat the typhoon it is automatically assumed that MKI will be whopping the falcons left & right .. funny how the typhoons have had kills over the MKI in Indra dhanush 07's and the fact that F-16 itself has participated with typhoons in different exercises and has got simulated kills ... and here is a kicker -- the SU-30, like the F-16 is also older compared to an EF-2000 ...

and while we're talking about records, lets not forget the IAF's biggest record, that makes it number one in the world i.e Crash record -- since we're assuming these records would be translating in to battle -- lets not be picky and choosy

 

[GURU DUTT]

So your argument is --- since the MKI beat the typhoons 12:0 because of reasons A,B & C --- therefore an MKI would also beat an F-16 because F-16 is older compared to a typhoon ...

First off, that 12:0 statement was taken back by the IAF, since -- you know -- it was false and RAF pointed that out for ya --- and its not really the first time that the IAF well wishers have gone berserk with their claims -- Be it Indra dhanush 07 where airforce monthly completely ripped the story that was presented to IAF fanboys, or that incident with the USAF colonel's video which pretty much exposed the "greatness of the IAF" and lets not forget the Cope India's --- What was it ?? --- We beat USAF 9:1 at Cope India's -- except when the ROE's were released, the claim became comical -- which is not an understatement as Indian victory at Cope India was something like....

Floyd Mayweather going " Not bragging but --- I have knocked out Muhammad Ali " --- following it up by " M.Ali at that time was 70 years of age, had Parkinson syndrome , was fighting with both his hands tied behind his back and a couple of my boys holding him down"

and lets not ignore the great logic, where since the F-16 is older then typhoon, hence if the IAF beat the typhoon it is automatically assumed that MKI will be whopping the falcons left & right .. funny how the typhoons have had kills over the MKI in Indra dhanush 07's and the fact that F-16 itself has participated with typhoons in different exercises and has got simulated kills ... and here is a kicker -- the SU-30, like the F-16 is also older compared to an EF-2000 ...

and while we're talking about records, lets not forget the IAF's biggest record, that makes it number one in the world i.e Crash record -- since we're assuming these records would be translating in to battle -- lets not be picky and choosy

of all so called logics there is onli one fact and thats that a better trained fair skinned and martial race PAF pilot sitting even in his MirageIII or F-7 can bring down 3 MKIs flown by a short dark iltrained and malnutritioned IAF pilots

 

[abdulbarijan]

of all so called logics there is onli one fact and thats that a better trained fair skinned and martial race PAF pilot sitting even in his MirageIII or F-7 can bring down 3 MKIs flown by a short dark iltrained and malnutritioned IAF pilots

 

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cause they(hub bul watan pakistanies) think MKI is the onli potent wepon platform with IAF and they think its onli F-16 that can put up a respectable fight against MKIs

but they forget we have two squads each of latest upgraded M2Ks & Mig29s + 45 Mig29Kswhich alone that can proove more than a handfull for entise F-16 contingent of PAF

India had procured MIG29 and Mirage 2000 specifically to counter F16 in 1980's now both of these fighters have gone drastic midlife modern changes and are more potent now. F16 block 52 is good potent fighter too

SU30MKI is in league of its own and is not to be compared with any other aircraft

 

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[abdulbarijan]

but then again...

 

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but then again...

 

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