Pakistan's Millitry has to emphasiz doctrine of "offensive defense,"

[pkpatriotic]

CONTINUE>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Indian agreesive intentions to overcome Indian oceans
Security ties with Iran have been advancing as well. The parties have forged an accord that gives Iran some access to Indian military technology. There are reports--officially denied--that it also gives India access to Iranian military bases in the event of war with Pakistan. Other recent developments include the first Indo-Iranian combined naval exercises and an Indian effort to upgrade the Iranian port of Chahbahar, a move that could foreshadow its use eventually by the Indian Navy.

Iran, of course, has never been happy about India's close ties with Israel. Most recently, Iran also was angered by a 24 September 2005 vote cast by India in support of an International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) resolution that potentially refers the Iranian nuclear weapons issue to the United Nations Security Council.

The most significant recent development has been the new warmth in New Delhi's ties with Saudi Arabia, Iran's traditional foe in the Gulf and India's largest source of petroleum imports. Reflecting the change in the temper of Indo-Saudi ties, the new Saudi king was scheduled to be the main guest in New Delhi at the January 2006 Republic Day celebration. This is a measure of the importance India attaches to its developing connection to Riyadh and an initiative undoubtedly noticed by the leadership in Iran.

Moving farther westward, another key nexus is with Israel. In recent years, numerous senior Israeli and Indian officials have exchanged visits, and military relations have become so close as to be tantamount to a military alliance. In 2003, following Pakistan's shoot-down of an "Indian" unmanned aircraft manufactured (and perhaps operated) by Israel, the cooperation between India and Israel not only relates to Pakistan, but the Middle East region as a whole." Israel is now India's second-largest arms supplier after Russia, and India is Israel's largest defense market and second-largest Asian trading partner (after Japan). (49) According to one estimate, India will purchase some fifteen billion dollars' worth of Israeli arms over the next few years.

India's aim here is to link itself with another powerful state whose sphere thus intersects its own. At the same time, New Delhi also seeks the advanced military equipment, training, and other help--probably including technology and advice on nuclear weapons and missiles--that Israel can sell or provide. The official publication of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, World Affairs, claims that India is acquiring technology from Israel for its Agni-III missile as well as for a miniature nuclear warhead--which India would need were it to deploy a sea-based (i.e., Indian Ocean-based) strategic nuclear weapons.

Elsewhere in the western Indian Ocean, India forged its first military relationship with a Gulf state in 2002 when New Delhi and Oman agreed to hold regular combined exercises and cooperate in training and defense production. They also initiated a regular strategic dialogue and, in 2003, signed a defense cooperation pact.

A month earlier, India's commerce minister offered the same view: "India has successfully pursued a 'look-east' policy to come closer to countries in Southeast Asia. We must similarly come closer to our western neighbors in the Gulf.

Farther afield, India's ties with the states of Africa's Indian Ocean coast still are limited but are expanding. Reminiscent of India's pre-colonial relationship with coastal Africa, New Delhi's key connections today are with some of the states in the Horn of Africa, South Africa, Tanzania, Mozambique, and especially the so-called African Islands, including Mauritius and the Seychelles.

At the other end of the continent, a noteworthy connection is developing with South Africa, through bilateral arrangements and a trilateral (India-Brazil-South Africa) relationship. Developments in the security arena are striking and were underscored in late 2004 when the Indian Air Force conducted a combined air-defense exercise with its South African counterpart (and with participating American, German, and British elements)--the first combined air exercise ever conducted by India on the African continent. and South Africa conducted combined naval drills off the African coast even more recently, in June 2005.

TO BE CONTINUED....>>>>>>>>

 

[Vinod2070]

Nice articles.

Thx. for sharing.

The rise of India as a benevolent power will be good for all people of the developing world. Wish our two countries can come out of this vicious circle of hostility.

Much of the world welcomes India's peaceful rise, except some of her own neighbors.

 

[IceCold]

World or US? but anyways the welcoming is there to contain China. Suddenly the offers made to India of such fancy hardware is not something out of the blue. US is definitely preparing grounds for a future conflict with China and India will play an important role in that, at least that's what's anticipated.
As for us, well why should we, point is not that we have any problem with that, but in the end it comes down to strategic interests. We certainly have our own interests to look at and we will work according to that.

 

[su-47]

World or US? but anyways the welcoming is there to contain China. Suddenly the offers made to India of such fancy hardware is not something out of the blue. US is definitely preparing grounds for a future conflict with China and India will play an important role in that, at least that's what's anticipated.
As for us, well why should we, point is not that we have any problem with that, but in the end it comes down to strategic interests. We certainly have our own interests to look at and we will work according to that.

india is not stupid enough to risk nuclear war with china, and US should know it. if they are offering weapons in the hope india will support USA in a war with China, they are sadly mistaken. they dont know our two-timing politicians. they'll take everything with open arms and a word of thanks, but wont risk losing their posts, so will remain neutral during a war.

 

[pkpatriotic]

>>>>>IN CONTINUATION OF MY PREVIOUS POST>>>>

BAY OF BENGAL AND "FURTHER INDIA" Complementing its westward orientation, India also has been diligent in cultivating closer relations with a variety of states in the Bay of Bengal and in Southeast Asia, often under the aegis of New Delhi's "Look East" policy.
The "Look East" policy also has produced gains with the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN). A pact commits India to creating a free trade area by 2011 with Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, Thailand, and Singapore, and by 2016 with the rest of ASEAN--the Philippines, Cambodia, Laos, Burma, and Vietnam.

They reflect a land-sea strategy for projecting Indian influence to the east--a strategy intended to counter China's strategic ambitions in Southeast Asia and toward the Indian Ocean.

Singapore is ideally situated to supplement the infrastructure in the Andamans; facilities there could, by the same token, allow India to project power into the South China Sea and against China. Notably, in February and March 2005 their annual naval maneuvers took place for the first time in the South China Sea (vice "Indian" waters).

Supplementing its diplomatic and political initiatives, India intends to continue STRENGTHENING AND USING INDIA'S ARMED FORCES by shaping its growing military capability.

The most significant development will be a strengthened nuclear-weapon strike capability relevant to the Indian Ocean as a whole. While land-based missiles may yet assume significance in this regard, New Delhi mainly is focused on equipping its navy and air force with nuclear capabilities that could be employed in a contingency.

India's intention to add a sea-based leg to its nuclear posture is longstanding and was a prominent feature of the Draft Nuclear Doctrine promulgated by India's National Security Advisory Board in 1999. The Cabinet Committee on Security also implicitly endorsed this goal in its 2003 restatement of many of the Doctrine's key points. Most recently, the new Indian Maritime Doctrine and the naval service chief, Admiral Arun Prakash, affirmed in September 2005 the importance of a sea-based leg.

Another key development is the acquisition of an air force with longer range. A critical advance was the purchase in 2003 of Il-78 aerial tanker aircraft, New Delhi's first of the type. These tankers have supported the deployment of fighter and transport aircraft to a variety of far-flung locations, including South Africa and Alaska. Refueling also has recently allowed nonstop flights of Su-30s from Pune, their main operating base southeast of Mumbai, to Car Nicobar in the Bay of Bengal, a potential staging location adjacent to the Strait of Malacca and the South China Sea approaches to China's populous heartland. A second airpower force multiplier will be the acquisition in 2007 of three Phalcon airborne warning and control system (AWACS) aircraft. These AWACS platforms, designed for 360-degree surveillance out to 350 nautical miles, will detect aerial threats and direct strike aircraft to targets. Like the tankers, the AWACS will not have a mainly passive, defensive role; rather, they will allow other air assets to strike targets at greater distances and with much more effect. New Delhi also is developing an indigenous AWACS system, to be deployed by 2011. In addition, India's Tu-142M and Il-38 maritime surveillance/antisubmarine warfare aircraft all are receiving upgrades. Finally, the Navy is raising three squadrons of Israeli-built Heron II unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs) and probably will acquire P-3C Orions from the United States.

India's air force also intent to achieve greater range and lethality with the acquisition of a variety of new combat aircraft--many of them clearly intended for strategic strike operations. In this regard, the planned acquisition of 190 long-range and air-refuelable Su-30 fighters (140 of which will be built from kits in India) through 2018 is particularly striking. New Delhi also has begun upgrading its fleet of Jaguar aircraft. The package--an almost definitive sign that these aircraft will continue to have a nuclear strike mission--includes more modern navigation systems, new electronic countermeasures gear, and new armament pods. As these aircraft are capable of air-to-air refueling, the Il-78s significantly enhanced their radius of action. New Delhi also has ordered additional Jaguars (seventeen two-seat and twenty single-seat) from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.

In addition, India plans to get 126 new multirole combat aircraft from a foreign supplier, either Lockheed Martin (the F-16), Boeing/McDonnell-Douglas (F-18 Hornet), Russia (MiG-35), Dassault Aviation of France (Mirage 2000-5), or Gripen of Sweden. Some of these airframes will be assembled in India. If Moscow and New Delhi can come to terms, at least four Tu-22M3s may be leased from Russia. These Backfires have a range of almost seven thousand nautical miles and can carry a payload of about twenty-five tons--the equivalent of two dozen two-thousand-pound bombs, or a large number of standoff air-to-ground missiles. India and Russia also are discussing the development and coproduction of a fifth-generation fighter aircraft.

Many of these strike platforms will be equipped eventually with powerful, long-range cruise missiles. The joint Indo-Russian Brahmos, with a 290-kilometer range and supersonic speed, will be deployed first on Indian warships, but an aerial version is planned. As one observer comments, "India's co-development with Russia of the Brahmos missile for India's air (and naval) forces introduces ... a highly lethal, hybrid (cruise plus ballistic) missile that is most likely to be used as a conventional counterforce weapon against naval ships, ordnance storage facilities, sensitive military production facilities, aircraft hangars, military communication nodes and command and control centers."

A final aviation-related development, one reflecting the new over-the-horizon focus of the Indian Air Force, is the expected formation--with Israeli help--of an aerospace command that will feature a ground-based imagery center, intended to leverage India's growing space "footprint" for air force and missile targeting and battle space management. The new command will be linked to a military reconnaissance satellite system, expected in operational since 2007.

As far as Indian Seapower, India's surface navy is to become more capable and lethal today then ever. The END.

Above mentioned situation where especially the powerfull states are strongly inclined to seek regional hegemony, India in our neighborhood, has agressive intentions to aquiring "more strategic space" and "strategic autonomy," with the goal to become superpower by achieving great powers status on an Asian and perhaps even global scale, and during this process her opinion about Pakistan like that;

"Notwithstanding this dramatic advance in relations, which--assuming eventual congressional approval of implementing legislation--establishes a very close United States-India strategic relationship, some bilateral problems will persist. One is Pakistan".

These are the ultimate "strategic concerns" force Pakistan to be well-prepared as deterrent against any worst situation of threat to our integrity & sovereignty, to ensure the peace of region but also peace of globe.

 

[pkpatriotic]

india is not stupid enough to risk nuclear war with china, and US should know it. if they are offering weapons in the hope india will support USA in a war with China, they are sadly mistaken. they dont know our two-timing politicians. they'll take everything with open arms and a word of thanks, but wont risk losing their posts, so will remain neutral during a war.

I admire of your unbiased realistic comments on the situation, and politicians as well.

 

[nitesh]

pkpatriotic from your posts:

post no.45

Since President William Clinton's visit to India in 2000 (the first visit by a president in decades) and,

The gentleman has even forgotten name of president.

now when P3 was offered, I think it is P8

offer to sell India a variety of military hardware, including fighter aircraft and P-3 maritime patrol planes.

now see this

adhering to the Missile Technology Control Regime

which thing India has agreed?

Now from post 46

The official publication of the Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, World Affairs, claims that India is acquiring technology from Israel for its Agni-III missile as well as for a miniature nuclear warhead--which India would need were it to deploy a sea-based (i.e., Indian Ocean-based) strategic nuclear weapons.

Now this is a conspiracy theory. total baseless.

from post 50

n this regard, the planned acquisition of 190 long-range and air-refuelable Su-30 fighters (140 of which will be built from kits in India) through 2018 is particularly striking. New Delhi also has begun upgrading its fleet of Jaguar aircraft. The package--an almost definitive sign that these aircraft will continue to have a nuclear strike mission--includes more modern navigation systems, new electronic countermeasures gear, and new armament pods. As these aircraft are capable of air-to-air refueling, the Il-78s significantly enhanced their radius of action. New Delhi also has ordered additional Jaguars (seventeen two-seat and twenty single-seat) from Hindustan Aeronautics Limited.

First the total number of SU30 are 230 not 190. And the acquisition is to be complete till 2014. Now why only jaguars why the author has forgotten about MiG27, Mirage, MiG29 upgrades also.

Now see this, heights of conspiracy theory

A final aviation-related development, one reflecting the new over-the-horizon focus of the Indian Air Force, is the expected formation--with Israeli help--of an aerospace command that will feature a ground-based imagery center, intended to leverage India's growing space "footprint" for air force and missile targeting and battle space management. The new command will be linked to a military reconnaissance satellite system, expected in operational since 2007.

what the hell Israel has to do with Indian aerospace command?

I will say the article is full of loopholes and conspiracy theory with no or little substance.

 

[Vinod2070]

World or US? but anyways the welcoming is there to contain China. Suddenly the offers made to India of such fancy hardware is not something out of the blue. US is definitely preparing grounds for a future conflict with China and India will play an important role in that, at least that's what's anticipated.
As for us, well why should we, point is not that we have any problem with that, but in the end it comes down to strategic interests. We certainly have our own interests to look at and we will work according to that.

OK, here is one article that may have some answers for you. It is by an Indian, so it is up to you to draw whatever conclusions you want to draw.

Why India is not a threat

On a recent lecture tour of the Far East I was repeatedly asked a fascinating question: Why does the rise of India not threaten the world in the same way as China does? We in India don't realize the depth of fear that China inspires in the East.

My first reaction was that India is a democracy and democracies are supposed to be more peaceful. I was quickly reminded that democracies have been known to invade places like Iraq.

True, but democracies tend to have more voices and more checks and balances. India's democracy, in particular, is a coalition of twenty parties. It cannot govern itself —how could it possibly threaten anyone? India's inability to take advantage of a historic opportunity to climb to world power status through the Indo-US nuclear deal shows this. My audiences found it inexplicable that Indians could quibble over a treaty that is so obviously in India's self-interest. Someone wondered if we had a self-destructive streak. The consensus was that had China been a multi-party democracy, and had it been presented with the same opportunity, it would grabbed and run with it.

Asian security analysts, I was surprised to note, had deep respect for India's military capabilities. They seemed to know all about our navy's aircraft-carrier force, our air force's latest Sukhois and MiGs, and our army's professionalism (although they felt that we had been badly let down by DRDO). They believed that India's military did not threaten Asia because of the turmoil in our neighbourhood. Terrorist threats from Pakistan, an unending civil war in Sri Lanka, Maoists in Nepal and Bangladesh's chronic instability — these were huge distractions which prevented India from thinking strategically about its role in the world.

East Asians who had visited India felt that we still needed to get our act together. Although India's economy was growing brilliantly and Indian companies had become world beaters, they found our physical and social infrastructure "depressing". What is the point of having a world class airport in Bangalore if it isn't well connected to the city? What is the point of having a million government primary schools if half the students can't read a single sentence? One speaker asked why Indians are still wedded to democracy when it has failed to deliver the most basic public services.

Nevertheless, I came away with a feeling that East Asians are cheering us and believe that history's momentum is on our side. They have their own reasons, of course — they fear China and desperately want a countervailing power. They don't trust Japan — the wounds of the Second World War have not yet healed. They wish that the Indian state would show more determination, however, and shed its old self-perception of a victimized Third World nation. Some expressed the hope that India's rise would improve Asia's image as a whole. India's mind was closer to the West. Indians spoke good English and were more open. The West distrusted Han China profoundly because it was closed, and the Tibetan protests had not helped.

Buddhists in the audience seemed to cheer India's rise because the post-9/11 world needed our traditions of tolerance and non-violence. I was surprised to see how many remembered Mahatma Gandhi and Tagore. They even wanted me to feel embarrassed about our nuclear weapons. On my way home, I asked myself that if it is true that the Indian state is genuinely less aggressive, then that is in fact the right answer to the original question about why India's rise does not threaten the world. I, for one, do not want an intimidating India which seeks military greatness.

Why India is not a threat-MEN & IDEAS-Gurcharan Das-Columnists-Opinion-The Times of India

 

[Marshal]

pkpatriotic from your posts:

post no.45


The gentleman has even forgotten name of president.

well he hasnt.........
Infact In english speaking countries like US UK.... some of the names have standerd nick names..
e.g.
William:Bill
Richard: Dick ( Dick Cheiny US VP)
Robert:Bob (RFK)
Anthany:Tony(Tony Blair)
etc...........

 

[pkpatriotic]

My dear

Since President William Clinton's visit to India in 2000 (the first visit by a president in decades) and, more recently, the realization by the George W. Bush administration of the importance of a rising India, as well as the 11 September 2001 terrorist attack on the United States, the two nations have embarked on a broad program of cooperation in a variety of fields, especially security. This cooperation has included Indian naval protection of U.S. .......... of Israeli-built Phalcon airborne warning and control systems, and an offer to sell India a variety of military hardware, including fighter aircraft and P-3 maritime patrol planes.[/B]

]George Bush hosted a summit with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh in July 2005, promising to strive for full civil nuclear cooperation with India
In effect, the president recognized India as a de facto, if not de jure, nuclear-weapon state and placed New Delhi on the same platform as other nuclear-weapon states. India, reciprocating, agreed to assume the same responsibilities and practices as any other country with advanced nuclear technology. these include separating military and civilian nuclear reactors and placing all civilian nuclear facilities under International Atomic Energy Agency safeguards; implementing the Additional Protocol (which supplements the foregoing safeguards) with respect to civilian nuclear facilities; continuing India's unilateral moratorium on nuclear testing; working with the United States for the implementation of a multilateral Fissile Material Cut-Off Treaty; placing sensitive goods and technologies under export controls; and adhering to the Missile Technology Control Regime and to Nuclear Suppliers Group guidelines. [/COLOR]The American and Indian delegations also agreed to further measures to combat terrorism and deepen bilateral economic relations through greater trade, investment, and technology collaboration. The United States and India also signed a Science and Technology Framework Agreement and agreed to build closer ties in space exploration, satellite navigation, and other areas in the commercial space arena.

Notwithstanding this dramatic advance in relations, which--assuming eventual congressional approval of implementing legislation--establishes a very close United States-India strategic relationship, some bilateral problems will persist. One is Pakistan

TO BE CONTINUE ...>>>>> WITH THE DETAIL & REFERENCE OF WEAPON WHICH INDIA ARE TAKING MORE TO BE INFLUENTIAL
Meanwhile please also check the folowing link to have few more details for india weapons arrangment negociations with different countries.
http://disarmament.un.org/RCPD/pdf%20ROK/Berlin.pdf

LONG LIVE PAKISTAN

nitesh;178262]pkpatriotic from your posts:

The gentleman has even forgotten name of president.

Lol... It really you think so...I must greatfull to you to give me a chance for clarification.........!
My dear friend, I think you became irrational due to you temporary phase of arrogance to see those post, which you are not supposed to be, if you read it thoroughly as neutral and unbiased.
Please take few deep breaths to cool down, I am sure you will get “Nirvan” to open the door of peace, patient, & knowledge.
Hope the explanation given by another friend “MARSHAL” should be enough for you, but any way to get to update your knowledge I would like to inform you the complete name of well known US president “Bill Clinton” in official record is William Jefferson Clinton. I f you still have reservations or have any private info regarding this matter please concern to the white house at following link to inform them to rectify the president name according to you your precious knowledge
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html

now when P3 was offered, I think it is P8

Please reconfirm your record, by check references

First the total number of SU30 are 230 not 190. And the acquisition is to be complete till 2014. Thanks for rectification for quantity and the completion of acquisition, please check references. Anyway, the concept of info will be the same and clear.
Now why only jaguars why the author has forgotten about MiG27, Mirage, MiG29 upgrades also.

I observed you had just a fuzzy a look and jumped in to arena with blowing conceit mined and baloney objections. I would like to suggest you my dear friend, that regular irrational/emotional attitude effects on health particularly on heart, so please try keep cool and calm your mind to be more worthy, share love and regards each other, avoid any sort of egotism. I wish you all the best “Nithesh”, as ultimately you are the precious for us being the “Heartbeat of the earth”
You have to read my post thoroughly till end you may get reply in the link pasted there.

I will say the article is full of loopholes and conspiracy theory with no or little substance

Oh really, ………… If it’s then I have to think again…….!
Well, 1st I would like to briefly tell you that, the word “Theory” is sort of Views and assumptions of person based on his own understandings for scenarios, which may right or may be wrong by the time, while the statically facts and figures obviously calculated and based on what ever happened and happening in real around us.

I have interpreted the facts figures in the post with references to context with the researches of valued scholars, the hardworking intellectuals, and elite responsible dignities and designators of India.

I always believes that, such type of personalities are precious assets not only for a country but to the globe, they enlighten the realities of universe and enhance our knowledge base, I really have high regards all of those intellectual dignities as yet, but now as you have highlighted such typical issue of “theory of Conspiracy”, How is it possible to state false statements, and delivery of false information by such elite intellectuals???
Once I go on your words “theory of Conspiracy”, then it will be great mess-up. I appreciate if you may please guide me in this regard!!!

The references are being quoted hereunder:

1. 1. Anand Giridharadas, "Newly Assertive India Seeks a Bigger Place in Asia," International Herald Tribune, 12 May 2005. India starts flexing economic muscle - International Herald Tribune
      
   2. See the press release signed by the U.S. defense secretary and the Indian defense minister in Arlington, Virginia, on 28 June 2005, "New Framework for the U.S.-India Defense Relationship," available at www.indianembassy.org
      
   3. See, for example, Manoj Joshi, "For a Flying Start," Hindustan Times, 1 April 2005, FBIS.
      
   4. Manoj Joshi, "Wide Angle--Pak Gets Nanny: Virtually Becomes U.S. Protectorate," Hindustan Times, 12 December 2004. For the "prehistory" (in the British connection) of present-day Indians' concerns about U.S. employment of Pakistan to contain India, see Stephen Philip Cohen, The Idea of Pakistan (Washington, D.C.: Brookings Institution, 2004), p. 34.
      
   5. See "Excerpts from Pentagon's Plan: 'Prevent the Emergence of a New Rival,'" New York Times, 8 March 1992, available at Princeton University - Welcome, and a discussion of this document in Nayar and Paul, India in the World Order, p. 224.
      
   6. On Prime Minister Singh's congratulatory letter to President Bush on the latter's reelection, see John Cherian, "U.S. Elections: An Embarrassing Missive," Frontline, 20 November-3 December 2004, available at Welcome to Frontline : Vol. 25 :: No. 16.
   7. A classic on this topic is R. J. Barendse, The Arabian Seas: The Indian Ocean World of the Seventeenth Century (Armonk, N.Y.: M. E. Sharpe, 2002).
      
   8. See the essays by C. Christine Fair, Jalil Roshandel, Sunil Dasgupta, and P. R. Kumaraswamy in The Strategic Partnership between India and Iran (Washington, D.C.: Woodrow Wilson International Center, April 2004). See also Donald L. Berlin, "India-Iran Relations: A Deepening Entente," in Asia's Bilateral Relations (Honolulu, Hawaii: Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies, June 2004), available at APCSS.
      
   9. M. K. Bhadrakumar, "South Asia in a Spot over Iran," Asia Times, 15 November 2004, available at Asia Times Online :: Asian news hub providing the latest news and analysis from Asia.
      
   10. Harinder Mishra, "India and Israel: Money Matters," Asia Times, 30 November 2004, available at Asia Times Online :: Asian news hub providing the latest news and analysis from Asia.
       
   11. Siddharth Srivastava, "Gunning for Peace in South Asia," Asia Times Online, 13 August 2005.
       
   12. "India-Israel Alliance Firming Up," Jane's Intelligence Digest, 2 March 2005.
       
   13. G. Parthasarathy, "India's Stakes in the Persian Gulf," Tribune, 8 September 2005.
       
   14. "Navy to Aid IO Island-Nations' Security," New Kerala News Online, 1 September 2005, India News I India Information I Kerala Guide @ New Kerala .Com.
       
   15. Marwaan Macan-Markar, "India Shifts Regional Geopolitical Cards," Asia Times Online, 27 January 2005, available at Asia Times Online :: South Asia news, business and economy from India and Pakistan.
       
   16. Ajit Dubey, "Smooth Sailing," Force: The Complete Newsmagazine of National Security, 1 January 2005.
       
   17. The Indian army probably has lagged a bit in this regard; see Bharat Karnad, "Shaping Indian Special Forces into a Strategic Asset," Defense and Technology, 1 December 2004, p. 48, FBIS.
       
   18. See Richard F. Grimmett, Conventional Arms Transfers to Developing Nations, 1997-2004 (Washington, D.C.: Congressional Research Service, 29 August 2005).
       
   19. Integrated Headquarters, Indian Maritime Doctrine; "Second Strike N-Capability Should Be Devastating: Prakash," PTI, 1 September 2005.
       
   20. "Russia to Upgrade Tu-142 Warplanes," Agentstvo Voyennykh Novostei, 21 October 2002; Bulbul Singh, "India, U.S. Near to Completing P-3 Orion Sale," Aerospace Daily, 28 August 2002.
       
   21. Pulkit Singh, "India Bolstering Jaguar Fleet, Phasing Out Some Older MiGs," Journal of Electronic Defense (October 2002).
       
   22. Rodney W. Jones, "Conventional Force Imbalance and Strategic Stability in South Asia," unpublished paper, 2004, p. 27.
       
   23. Rahul Bedi, "Indian Conventional Defence Purchases Soar," Jane's Defence Weekly, 14 September 2005.
       
   24. "Military Satellite to Give India 'Eyes in Space,'" Financial Express, 5 September 2005.
       
   25. See Rahul Roy-Chaudhury, India's Maritime Security (New Delhi: Knowledge World/IDSA, 2000), pp. 125-59, and James Goldrick, No Easy Answers: The Development of the Navies of India, Pakistan and Sri Lanka 1945-1996 (New Delhi: Lancer, 1997), pp. 104-38.
       
   26. "India-US Ties in Focus," Jane's Intelligence Digest, 29 July 2005.
       
   27. Frank Broeze, "Geostrategy and Navyports in the IO since c. 1970," Marine Policy 21, no. 4 (1997), p. 358.
       
   28. Josey Joseph, "Navy to Use UAVs to Spy on Sea-Lanes," Rediff: India Abroad, www.rediff .com/news/2003/jan/31uav.htm. See also Gautan Datt, "Navy to Set Up Base for UAVs in Andaman," Asian Age, 10 November 2003, FBIS.
       
   29. Broeze, "Geostrategy and Navyports in the IO since c. 1970," p. 358
       
   30. "Indian Naval Chief Satisfied with Performance of Unified Command at Andamans," Hindu, 6 July 2002, p. 8, trans. FBIS.
       
   31. Vishal Thapar, "India Adopts Big Power Posture on High Seas," Hindustan Times, 27 August 2002.
       
   32. The project will also enhance Indian maritime security in the Palk Straits, which some observers regard as under the de facto control of the LTTE. See P. Venkateshwar Rao, "The Sethusamudram Ship Canal Project," paper presented at the third annual Indian Ocean Research Group (IORG) International Conference, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, 11-13 July 2005.
       
   33. Integrated Headquarters, Indian Maritime Doctrine, p. 56.
       
   34. Kalsoom Lakhani and Pramit Mitra, "Tsunami Disaster's Diplomatic Implications," South Asia Monitor (Washington, D.C.: Center for Strategic and International Studies, 1 February 2005).
       
   35. Prasun K. Sengupta, "Looking East," Force, 1 November 2005.
       
   36. Notably, it has been nineteen years since an Indian prime minister visited Australia. See the "Outcomes Statement" of the Australia-India Security Roundtable in Canberra, 11-12 April 2005, published by the Australian Strategic Policy Institute, and Jenette Bonner and Varun Sahni, Australia-India Reengagement: Common Security Concerns, Converging Strategic Horizons, Complementary Force Structures (Canberra: Australian Strategic Policy Institute, October 2004). See also D. Gopal and Dennis Rumley, eds., India and Australia: Issues and Opportunities (New Delhi: Authorspress, 2004). With respect to Indonesia, an important step was the November 2005 state visit to India by Indonesian president Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
       
   37. Dr. Berlin is a professor at the College of Security Studies, Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies, in Honolulu. Dr. Berlin served with the Defense Intelligence Agency from 1976 to 1998 and has been a faculty member of the Joint Military Intelligence College in Washington, D.C. He was commissioned a second lieutenant in the U.S. Air Force in 1968, serving in a variety of assignments, including duty in air intelligence in the Vietnam War and as a reserve intelligence officer at National Defense University. He holds a PhD in international studies from the University of South Carolina (1982) and an MA in national security and strategic studies from the Naval War College (1998).

 

[nitesh]

Lol... It really you think so...I must greatfull to you to give me a chance for clarification.........!
My dear friend, I think you became irrational due to you temporary phase of arrogance to see those post, which you are not supposed to be, if you read it thoroughly as neutral and unbiased.
Please take few deep breaths to cool down, I am sure you will get “Nirvan” to open the door of peace, patient, & knowledge.
Hope the explanation given by another friend “MARSHAL” should be enough for you, but any way to get to update your knowledge I would like to inform you the complete name of well known US president “Bill Clinton” in official record is William Jefferson Clinton. I f you still have reservations or have any private info regarding this matter please concern to the white house at following link to inform them to rectify the president name according to you your precious knowledge
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.html

thanks a lot I was really not aware of this. Pardon my ignorance

Please reconfirm your record, by check references

Sir ji the reference no 20 mentions what you are saying but it is dated 2002. Now what was there in 2002 how it makes a point today?

I observed you had just a fuzzy a look and jumped in to arena with blowing conceit mined and baloney objections. I would like to suggest you my dear friend, that regular irrational/emotional attitude effects on health particularly on heart, so please try keep cool and calm your mind to be more worthy, share love and regards each other, avoid any sort of egotism. I wish you all the best “Nithesh”, as ultimately you are the precious for us being the “Heartbeat of the earth”
You have to read my post thoroughly till end you may get reply in the link pasted there.

Thanks a lot for your wishes same from my side. My name is "Nitesh" not "Nithesh". He he he

Oh really, ………… If it’s then I have to think again…….!
Well, 1st I would like to briefly tell you that, the word “Theory” is sort of Views and assumptions of person based on his own understandings for scenarios, which may right or may be wrong by the time, while the statically facts and figures obviously calculated and based on what ever happened and happening in real around us.

I have interpreted the facts figures in the post with references to context with the researches of valued scholars, the hardworking intellectuals, and elite responsible dignities and designators of India.

I always believes that, such type of personalities are precious assets not only for a country but to the globe, they enlighten the realities of universe and enhance our knowledge base, I really have high regards all of those intellectual dignities as yet, but now as you have highlighted such typical issue of “theory of Conspiracy”, How is it possible to state false statements, and delivery of false information by such elite intellectuals???
Once I go on your words “theory of Conspiracy”, then it will be great mess-up. I appreciate if you may please guide me in this regard!!!

Sir your references are good but the point which I raised is how israel helped in building AgniIII "miniature war head" also in setting up the aerospace command. These are just rumors and even if they are not. We will never know the truth. So why putting a conclusion based on that.

 

[pkpatriotic]

nitesh;178879]thanks a lot I was really not aware of this. Pardon my ignorance

No matter dear friend, you are welcome always

Sir ji the reference no 20 mentions what you are saying but it is dated 2002. Now what was there in 2002 how it makes a point today?[/

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2002 is not so far, its just 6 year earlier, strategical planned normally take time almost 4 to 15 years for implementation, or some time more then that, its depend upon the nature & depth of strategy and availability funds, technology & sources. You may see the refernces quoted below for coming effect of 2002)

Thanks a lot for your wishes same from my side. My name is "Nitesh" not "Nithesh". He he he

Rectification Noted with tkx, But still not effect on the meaning my dear "heartbeat of the earth"

Sir your references are good but the point which I raised is how israel helped in building AgniIII "miniature war head" also in setting up the aerospace command. These are just rumors and even if they are not. We will never know the truth. So why putting a conclusion based on that.[/quote]

Tkx for your appreciation & recognition. 1st I would like to remind you, as I told that, the reference of news concern, as i told you it's wrote Dr.Berlin as the pasted link shown, while i have interpreted here in post. As far as the validity of this conclusion, It's verified, how do you say it "Rumor" in light of following references:

Sagarika to be tested soon off Orissa
The Hindu : Front Page News : Tuesday, February 19, 2008
Sandeep Dikshit
The land-based Agni-III missile to be tested soon
“A joint venture with Israel for producing long-range surface-to-air missile”

NEW DELHI: India is all set to improve its capability to respond to a nuclear attack with the first-ever test of Sagarika, an under-sea missile and the second test of a 3,000-km variant of the surface-to-surface Agni missile, a senior defence scientist said here on Monday.

Sagarika would soon be test-fired from a submerged platform off the coast of Orissa. The second test of the land-based Agni-III missile would be conducted as soon as the weather clears up, said Chief Controller of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) S. Prahlada.

The Agni-III missile would be an important component in the country’s second strike capability. Since its range is long, the missile can be kept away from the borders and out of reach of most bombers. It could be ready for induction in the strategic command forces (nuclear forces) after two more tests.
The second test of the land-based Agni-III missile would be conducted as soon as the weather clears up, said Chief Controller of the Defence Research and Development Organisation (DRDO) S. Prahlada.
He said the government had cleared a joint venture proposal with Israel for producing long-range surface-to-air missile for the Navy. The government had allocated Rs. 2,500 crore for the project and the first missile could be inducted in three years.


India Plans To Build Long-Range Missiles With Israel: Official

New Delhi (AFP) Aug 31, 2004
India, which tested an indigenously-built ballistic missile on Sunday, is holding talks with Israel about joint production of a long-range missile, the country's chief military scientist announced on Tuesday.
"Wherever they have strengths, we want to jointly develop the missiles so that both countries can benefit and share designs, costs and risks," V.K. Atre told reporters in Hyderabad, the hub of India's missile-building facilities.
Atre did not elaborate about the system which India hopes to build jointly with Israel. He said talks are being held between India's Defence Research and Development Organisation and its state-owned Israeli counterpart.

India, which treated Israel like a pariah for decades, hass in recent years forged close military links. It is acquiring two Phalcon Airborne Early Warning Systems from the Jewish state at a cost of a billion dollars.
On Sunday India successfully tested its medium-range Agni-II (Fire) missile, which has a maximum range of 2,500 kilometres (1,560 miles) and can carry a one-tonne nuclear warhead.

India to launch military satellite by year end
India to launch military satellite by year end
July 29, 2007 15:31 IST
The military-specific reconnaissance satellite CARTOSAT-2A will be launched on a Polar Satellite Launch Vehicle by the Indian Space Research Organisation by the end of this year, ISRO officials said.
The satellite will give India the capability to keep tabs on missile launches in its neighbourhood.
CARTOSAT-2A was earlier programmed to be put into space by the first week of August, but its launch has now been scheduled for mid-September or early October, officials said.
Along with the country's own military satellite, ISRO is also planning to launch an Israeli reconnaissance satellite called POLARIS

CARTOSAT-2A will boast of spatial resolution and will be loaded with cameras that can supply advance imagery. It will cater full time to military and intelligence specifications, unlike existing Indian satellite.
The launch of the nation's first military satellite will be rapidly followed by launch of two more advanced imaging satellites by next year to give India a means to keep a close eye round-the-clock on the neighbouring region.

Though ISRO sources were tightlipped, it is learnt that the Israeli military satellite POLARIS and CARTOSAT-2A can take pictures of the earth through cloud and rain, which no other Indian satellite has been able to do so far.
The launch of CARTOSAT-2A is being timed to coincide with the scheduled delivery of the country's first Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft by Israel to give the armed forces a network-centric platform for carrying out surveillance from the ground to the stratosphere.
The supply of the Phalcon AWACS is scheduled for early next year. India has signed a deal with Israel and Russia for purchase of three such AWACS, and has kept options open for the acquisition of three more.

ADDITIONAL REFERANCES:
The outgoing chief of India’s Defense Research & Development Organization (DRDO) Dr. V.K. Aatre tells reporters that India will be collaborating with Israel and the United States to develop nano-materials and high-tech components needed for electronic warfare systems. Aatre says that India has decided to launch joint programs with Israel in the field of electronic warfare, where both countries are on an equal footing. “Israel is very strong in sensors and packaging,” says Aatre, “…we would like to work on fibre-optic gyros and micro-electromechanical systems.”
—“India to tie up with Israel, US for e-warfare systems,” Financial Express, 1 September 2004

India indicates interest in purchasing the Arrow anti-ballistic missile system from Israel in talks with the Israeli defense ministry Director-General Amos Yaron and Israel Aircraft Industries CEO Moshe Qeret, who are on a visit to India as part of Industry and Trade Minister Ehud Qlmert’s entourage.
—“India interested in buying Israel’s anti-missile system,” BBC Monitoring International Reports, 6 December 2004

The head of India’s Defense Research & Development Organization (DRDO) Dr. V.K. Aatre says Indo-Israeli defense cooperation was confined to research and development in the areas of aerospace, sensors and fiber-optic gyroscopes for the military.
—“India plans to build long-range missiles with Israel: Official,” AFP, 31 August 2004

An Israeli defense delegation holds high-level talks with India’s Defense Research & Development Organization (DRDO) on a number of joint projects in high-technology areas including the development of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV).
—“High-level Israeli defense delegation holds talks with DRDO,” Press Trust of India, 20 July 2004

Is that still rumor based conclusion???

 

[nitesh]

pk sir, the links you have posted are:

India and Israel are jointly working on Surface to air missiles: Now Navy is using Barak 1 in it's ship and collaboration is on for increasing the range. There is a JV floated for it.

Now the second one "India and Israel are working on a LONG RANGE MISSILE" so now which missile is this?

Now India launches a satellite for Israel, so now India is helping Israel in it's space ambition or Israel is helping India in setting up some command?

Sir, sorry but I am still not getting how Israel helped with this "miniature warhead" and setting up "aerospace command"

 

[vish]

pkpatriotic:

The "long range missile" is not an IRBM/ICBM as you are implying. I think they are talking about Barak II.

 

[pkpatriotic]

pk sir, the links you have posted are:

India and Israel are jointly working on Surface to air missiles: Now Navy is using Barak 1 in it's ship and collaboration is on for increasing the range. There is a JV floated for it.

Now the second one "India and Israel are working on a LONG RANGE MISSILE" so now which missile is this?

Now India launches a satellite for Israel, so now India is helping Israel in it's space ambition or Israel is helping India in setting up some command?

Sir, sorry but I am still not getting how Israel helped with this "miniature warhead" and setting up "aerospace command"

Plz refer to following statement quoted by:
Monotapash Mukherjee - 3/16/2008
"India wants to develop a dedicated aerospace command. But till date, India does not have a dedicated military satellite network.India is developing its own GPS version- the Indian Regional Navigation Satellite system. ISRO will launch seven satellites to build the system with the cooperation of Isreal. The Indo- Israeli space cooperation has reached an unexpected high. With the successful launch of the Israeli spy sat, Tecsar, the bonhomie seems to fructify several projects in the future.

India is interested in buying the Israeli radar imaging satellite design. The synthetic aperture radar systems which can look through day and night, rain and cloud are also on the Indian wish list".

If you still need more reference to understand so, be a good child, do home work with concentration and zealous rather then contentions...........Plz workout with the links mentioned below for your reference for further details:

• israel | India Defence
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http://www.cdi.org/pdfs/GuineyIndiaSpace.pdf