Pakistan's Artillery Upgrade Discussions

[ZedZeeshan]

a Video by CASC...

Described A100/200/300 munitions includes

> Cluster Warhead
>Penetration blast warhead
>Fragmentation blast warhead
>Blast warhead

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1214051825342382

how many of these systems Pakistan has..???

 

[Zarvan]

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Airshow China 2016: NORINCO introduces new lightweight SPH

Christopher F Foss, Zhuhai - IHS Jane's International Defence Review

04 November 2016

The CS/SH4 SPH leverages elements of the Type 96 howitzer. Source: Christopher F Foss

China North Industries' (NORINCO's) China South Division has developed and tested a new self-propelled howitzer (SPH), although full technical details have yet to be revealed.

The CS/SH4 lightweight 122 mm system consists of a cross-country (4x4) chassis with a fully protected cab at the front and the 122 mm armament mounted at the rear.

While in the travelling configuration the 122 mm weapon is traversed to the front and lowered into the horizontal position so that is rests within the upper part of the cab.

When deployed in the firing position the complete 122 mm weapon - with its distinctive slotted muzzle brake - is moved to the rear hydraulically so that the baseplate rests on the ground. On either side of the baseplate are two stabilisers that are extended to provide a more stable firing platform.

The cross-country chassis is provided with a central tyre-inflation system and on either side of the platform are stowage boxes for ammunition.

While the original Chinese 122 mm Type 96 howitzer had standard optical direct and indirect sights fitted, the CS/SH4 may have some elements of a navigation and gun laying system, but traverse and elevation are still manual.

Assuming that the ballistics are the same as the baseline 122 mm Type 96 towed howitzer, maximum range firing a standard high-explosive projectile is 15.3 km but this can be increased to 18 km with a special charge.

NORINCO are also marketing a 122 mm extended range full-bore hollow base (ERFB HB) projectile with a maximum range of 18 km as well as an ERFB Base Bleed (ERFB BB) type that increases its range to 21 m.

The latest 122 mm round to be revealed by NORINCO is a 122 mm BB round with rocket assist (BB RA), which gives a maximum range of 27 km but with a potential loss of accuracy.

We need to get few more towed Artillery and also replace old ones. Specially 105 MM and 120 MM Artillery

 

[fatman17]

We need to get few more towed Artillery and also replace old ones. Specially 105 MM and 120 MM Artillery

105s are good for hilly terrain

 

[Khafee]

We need to get few more towed Artillery and also replace old ones. Specially 105 MM and 120 MM Artillery

Buy new ones by all means, but why replace them? Why not refurbish them, if it makes financial sense.

 

[Areesh]

how many of these systems Pakistan has..???

Pakistan has A100

 

[Path-Finder]

105s are good for hilly terrain

what about AH-4 for hilly terrain?

 

[ali_raza]

we should go for paladins.who knows we might end up having some EDa stocks

 

[Sulman Badshah]

Denel will give briefing about T5 in IDEAS 2016

 

[Zarvan]

Denel will give briefing about T5 in IDEAS 2016

They are giving briefing on Denel company one day and than on next day special briefing on this Artillery Gun it says a lot. I think we are going for this Gun

 

[Army research]

what about AH-4 for hilly terrain?

Failed trials

 

[Zarvan]

Failed trials

That is the question How it failed trials and when it was tested. @Dazzler @fatman17

 

[monitor]

South African Army lines up Denel T5-45 howitzers
Helmoed-Römer Heitman, Pretoria - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
15 July 2016

A Denel 155 mm T5-45 self-propelled howitzer seen on the range. Source: Denel Land Systems
The South African Army is discussing with Denel Land Systems the possible acquisition of six 155 mm T5-45 self-propelled howitzers, a source in the Denel group has revealed.

The T5-45 is comprised of a 155 mm 45 calibre gun mounted on an 8x8 Tatra T815-7 truck that has a road speed of 85 km/h and a range of some 600 km. The complete system weighs 28 tonnes.

The truck is powered by a 300 kW turbo-charged diesel, coupled to a seven-speed manual gearbox with a two-speed transfer gearbox. A central tyre inflation system aids mobility over soft ground.

The gun has an elevation of -3° to +72°, a 60° unrestricted arc of fire at all elevations, 360° at 48° elevation, can engage targets with direct fire over a 180° arc out to 3,000 m, and can fire a five-round time-on-target mission to ranges between 13 and 30 km.

It uses the same ammunition family as the army's existing G5-45 towed and G6-45 self-propelled howitzers.

An auxiliary power unit (APU) provides hydraulic and electrical power for deployment, loading and firing of the gun, with a truck-mounted hydraulic pump for back-up hydraulic power.

It can be brought into action within one minute of stopping in its firing position and can be taken out of action within one minute to avoid counter-battery fire. There is on-board stowage for 24 projectiles and 24 charges. A power-operated projectile loading arm simplifies loading ammunition from the ground next to the vehicle.

The integral command-and-control system is comprised of an automatic laying and navigation system, muzzle velocity radar, gun management computer, and a communications system, as well as a back-up optical/mechanical panoramic sight with cant compensation. A telescopic sight allows self-defence direct fire.

The army could upgrade to a 52 calibre gun by changing just the barrel and acquiring the new M2000 Assegaai or M9 ERFB projectiles.

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[Zarvan]

South African Army lines up Denel T5-45 howitzers
Helmoed-Römer Heitman, Pretoria - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
15 July 2016

A Denel 155 mm T5-45 self-propelled howitzer seen on the range. Source: Denel Land Systems
The South African Army is discussing with Denel Land Systems the possible acquisition of six 155 mm T5-45 self-propelled howitzers, a source in the Denel group has revealed.

The T5-45 is comprised of a 155 mm 45 calibre gun mounted on an 8x8 Tatra T815-7 truck that has a road speed of 85 km/h and a range of some 600 km. The complete system weighs 28 tonnes.

The truck is powered by a 300 kW turbo-charged diesel, coupled to a seven-speed manual gearbox with a two-speed transfer gearbox. A central tyre inflation system aids mobility over soft ground.

The gun has an elevation of -3° to +72°, a 60° unrestricted arc of fire at all elevations, 360° at 48° elevation, can engage targets with direct fire over a 180° arc out to 3,000 m, and can fire a five-round time-on-target mission to ranges between 13 and 30 km.

It uses the same ammunition family as the army's existing G5-45 towed and G6-45 self-propelled howitzers.

An auxiliary power unit (APU) provides hydraulic and electrical power for deployment, loading and firing of the gun, with a truck-mounted hydraulic pump for back-up hydraulic power.

It can be brought into action within one minute of stopping in its firing position and can be taken out of action within one minute to avoid counter-battery fire. There is on-board stowage for 24 projectiles and 24 charges. A power-operated projectile loading arm simplifies loading ammunition from the ground next to the vehicle.

The integral command-and-control system is comprised of an automatic laying and navigation system, muzzle velocity radar, gun management computer, and a communications system, as well as a back-up optical/mechanical panoramic sight with cant compensation. A telescopic sight allows self-defence direct fire.

The army could upgrade to a 52 calibre gun by changing just the barrel and acquiring the new M2000 Assegaai or M9 ERFB projectiles.

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I have a strong feeling Pakistan is going to induct this Gun. I am hoping we get it with TOT and we also consider the towed 155 MM artillery gun which Denel company produces

 

[Rafi]

That is the question How it failed trials and when it was tested. @Dazzler @fatman17

Not failed, but PA sent back with request for a few modifications. Still good chance of induction, utility of having in mountainous areas such as AK, GB, Swat, FATA. Second to none.

 

[Path-Finder]

Not failed, but PA sent back with request for a few modifications. Still good chance of induction, utility of having in mountainous areas such as AK, GB, Swat, FATA. Second to none.

If it arrives before indian m777 with improvements then we are talking