Pakistan's Airborne Early Warning and Control Aircrafts

[nomi007]

@fatman17...third ZDK-03 arrived?

ALLAH PAK pakistan ko in ki hifazat ki toufiq atta farmahe
Ameen

 

[Bratva]

@Oscar I guess these are few of many indigenous equipments which will be used in making western and non western platforms talks with each other or if they have talk through terminal.

http://carepvtltd.com/Communication_Systems/cms.php?id=Taeerun

http://carepvtltd.com/Communication..._Data_Rate_Telemetry_Transmitter_and_Receiver

http://carepvtltd.com/Communication_Systems/cms.php?id=Bulk_Encryption_System


I have read your previous post and now completely understand how PAF repackage the whole packet so non Link-16 system can generate a compatible Link-16 packet. SDR is capable to operate up to application layer. Impressive


And you raised concerns on encryptions in that post. AES-256 will be used to encrypt the packet and it takes time and lot of processing power to break it and it will not be a piece of cake for indians to break this encryption

And Data rate provided by device is enormous. With this data rate, you can easily handle voice and data traffic of up to 20-30 aircrafts simultaneously. Albeit video traffic will cause problem

All in all,,, It's pleasant developments that such advancements are made in data link field by CARE and PAF team

 

[SQ8]

@Oscar I guess these are few of many indigenous equipments which will be used in making western and non western platforms talks with each other or if they have talk through terminal.

http://carepvtltd.com/Communication_Systems/cms.php?id=Taeerun

http://carepvtltd.com/Communication..._Data_Rate_Telemetry_Transmitter_and_Receiver

http://carepvtltd.com/Communication_Systems/cms.php?id=Bulk_Encryption_System


I have read your previous post and now completely understand how PAF repackage the whole packet so non Link-16 system can generate a compatible Link-16 packet. SDR is capable to operate up to application layer. Impressive


And you raised concerns on encryptions in that post. AES-256 will be used to encrypt the packet and it takes time and lot of processing power to break it and it will not be a piece of cake for indians to break this encryption

And Data rate provided by device is enormous. With this data rate, you can easily handle voice and data traffic of up to 20-30 aircrafts simultaneously. Albeit video traffic will cause problem

All in all,,, It's pleasant developments that such advancements are made in data link field by CARE and PAF team

Tested, but not really needed..

 

[Bratva]

Tested, but not really needed..

due to? eats up bandwidth? take time to encrypt packets? or a more accustomed and robust encryption is being developed ? or lesser AES-128 will be used?

 

[SQ8]

due to? eats up bandwidth? take time to encrypt packets? or a more accustomed and robust encryption is being developed ? or lesser AES-128 will be used?

Due to the same reason you dont need a huge engine for the JF-17. Would be great.. but really is not needed to get the job done well.

 

[nomi007]

1st hd image of earlier zdk-03

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-CQsctEW2uic/Ub1HDMvKwTI/AAAAAAAAado/-lzuZBuNBrU/s1600/Chinese%C2%A0Y-8W++KJ-500+AEW&C%C2%A03-sided+Active+Electronically+Scanned+Array+%28AESA%29+array+%282%29.jpg

 

[aziqbal]

That is the original Y-8 platform but the rotodome radar is said to be a more advanced model than the ZDK-03 which is in development for a medium sized AWACS for the PLAAF to compliment the larger KJ-2000 and balance beam KJ-200, designated KJ-300/500

 

[ice_man]

We don't know is the answer. What we do know is this:

At least 1 saab is operational.

At least 1 saab destroyed to be replaced by the training aircraft into an awac.

We have rumours that the remaining two were damaged but repairable and Sweden has been requested to get the aircraft back upto flying and operational conditions.

There are also a few good men here that state 3 saabs destroyed.

Either way our confirmed status is 1 alive and 1 destroyed.

and is the one destroyed being replaced ?

 

[Liquidmetal]

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and is the one destroyed being replaced ?

The rumour is that the confirmed destroyed Erieye will be replaced. The replacement will be the Saab 2000 aircraft that was obtained for training purposes and was the first Saab to be given to PAF in the Erieye program. It is understandable that PAF is rather quiet on confirming anything in case it gives succour to the enemies of the state. So we can only make educated guesses.

The real Q is can the PAF get the other 2/3 aircraft if as many people believe that we have lost more than 1 possibly 3 dead. If that is true 1. The PAF should hang it's head in shame. 2. It is unlikely we can afford to buy additional radars and platforms. This bird was a huge force multiplier and had in an instance transforemd the PAF's eyes and ears into enemy territory and hence the loss is greater still. A nation blinded.

 

[nomi007]

i think it was better for us to get latest jas gripen ng rather than f-16 block 52

 

[Jango]

i think it was better for us to get latest jas gripen ng rather than f-16 block 52

Wrong move for multiple reasons, the main one being that yould be getting a totally new aircraft type at a time when your economy is down.

 

[Liquidmetal]

i think it was better for us to get latest jas gripen ng rather than f-16 block 52

I think you are in the wrong thread regarding the Gripen NG, but thanks for the Saab/Erieye picture, I was under the impression that PAF was the only customer for the Saab 2000/Erieye, so is this a PAF bird next to the Gripen.

As for the Q of F16 Block 52+ vs Gripen NG, the ans is very clear. F16 over a yet to be born NG. If it is good enough for the Israelis it is good enough for us.

 

[nomi007]

may be not posted before

 

[razgriz19]

I think you are in the wrong thread regarding the Gripen NG, but thanks for the Saab/Erieye picture, I was under the impression that PAF was the only customer for the Saab 2000/Erieye, so is this a PAF bird next to the Gripen.

As for the Q of F16 Block 52+ vs Gripen NG, the ans is very clear. F16 over a yet to be born NG. If it is good enough for the Israelis it is good enough for us.

NOT a SAAB 2000.
Saab 340 with Eriye system.
Many Air forces operate 340s.

 

[amanwas]

I think we should go for China.