Pakistanis debate real enemy: girl-shooting Taliban or drone-firing US

[Qasibr]

Kenya embassy bombing, Islamabad Egyptian embassy bombing, the bombing that killed Azzam in peshawar, 1993 world trade bombing, and the list goes on. There are plenty of examples where Talbaboons killed 100s nay 1000s of civilians long before the fateful day of 9/11.

Try to read what is said before replying.

Which one of those were done by Pakistanis? The one suicide-bombing incident in Pakistan before 9/11, was done by an Egyptian. WE did not have suicide attacks AT ALL before.

There are enough of examples to show a sane person that Wah@bi Jih@dis attacked civilians long before 2001. But you won't believe the reality. Such is the state of mind of so many Pakistanis and most of the Islamists.

How about some undeniable basic facts. The Wahabis were first installed by the West. Then, for successive generations, oppressive dictators have been armed to the teeth with the most sophisticated Western weaponry, large fleets of F-15s and M1A1 tanks. The West defended them militarily when Iraq threatened them(another matter that they first supplied Iraq chemical weapons to gas the Kurds, and then later raised alot of hue and cry about it).

Why skew the picture and leave that out of your little narrative?

Oh ho then f this "sharp difference". From Pakistani POV, Afghan fighters are the scum that are raping FATA and the b@stards born to such rapes are called Talibaboons. But you will consider those rapists as nicey nicey softy softy. Why?

What's wrong with you. Have you no patriotism, have you no shame?

Those so called Afghan fighters need to haul their @rses back to Afghanistan if they are that brave. Fing bravery as per your stance means they need to f Pakistan.

Just pathetic. pure pathetic.

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You are barely coherrent here, alot of rambling tidbits from here and there. Lets go step by step. Afghan mujahideen are not fighting in Pakistan, and never have been. Gulbuddin Hekmatyar, Mullah Omar, or Haqqani, have never fought wars outside their country's borders. They don't even called "taliban" or have any structure or heirarchy of the taliban regime(1996-2001). Inside Pakistan, we have over thirty different groups of "taliban" and they have very little to do with Afghanistan. In-fact, when these "taliban" captured Col. Imam(US-trained SSG army man who had been Mullah Omar's teacher at one point), and Mullah Omar sent a personal delegation to request that Col. Imam be released as a personal favor, Mullah Omar was rebuked and Col. Imam's dead body was found in some ditch.

The Afghan mujahideen are fighting a war to liberate their country - our westernized class takes a very moronic and hypocritical stance here, during the 80's they all supported the Afghan struggle to free their country from the Soviets, because the US supported that war. Now, when the Afghans are fighting to free their country from another superpower, suddenly the war is very wrong and immoral, because Uncle Sam said so. The height of intelligence and intellect, to these people, is to perfectly parrot back whatever line the US is peddling at the moment.

 

[FaujHistorian]

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1. How about some undeniable basic facts. The Wahabis were first installed by the West. .....
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2. Afghan mujahideen are not fighting in Pakistan, .....The Afghan mujahideen are fighting a war to liberate their country -

Again you are repeating Jih@di propaganda not too different from the village simpletons.

#1. West "hired and trained" wahabis like one would get a dog to keep your house safe.

OK?

You get a dog, to protect you. You feed it, you keep it healthy, you take it to vet.

One day, the dog gets rabies.

And start attacking your children.

What do you do?

A) Let the dog attack and kill your children
B) Give a big hug to the dog (remember it has rabies)
C) Shoot the damn dog



#2 - Your pals Afghan Muj are not fighting Pakistan, then what the f they are doing in FATA? Laying eggs, so you all can make an omelet in the morning?


Man! These simpletons come by the dozens and spread ignorance and anti-Pakistan $hit on the forums.


pathetic.

 

[Luffy 500]

US drone attacks are pushing the tribals of PAK to hands of radicals and thus US was and still is the major source of radicalism and bomb blasts in PAK. PAK knows their region better than morally and intellectually bankrupt yankis from 1000s miles away. US if truly wants to solve the problem and a peaceful resolution of chaos initiated by them, should allow the PAK establishment to slove it their own way. U don't question the romans in Rome unless your are looking for never ending trouble and chaos which exactly the yankis wants.

 

[VCheng]

IMO - Both of them are enemies of Pakistan and Pakistanis.

It seems that Pakistan is fast running out of friends and thus options, never mind who the enemies are.

 

[truthseer]

I think we should just nuke Afghanistan. It will end the US presence and the Taliban!

 

[Luffy 500]

I think we should just nuke Afghanistan. It will end the US presence and the Taliban!

You are calling for nuking your fellow muslim brothers. Even if you are not a pan-islamist you are calling for killing humans who have mostly nothing to do with taliban and US. Allah(swt) tests and punishes everyone and may be PAK and AF is undergoing some harsh test or punishment just like the rest of the muslim world. Be strong brother. Allah(swt) is always with the one who is patient.

 

[laiqs@mi]

 

[FaujHistorian]

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This is mardood propaganda by Mullahs and their Jamatia poodles.

If Talibaboons are so good for Girls education, who on earth was bombing girls and boys school in Swat? Pope?

pathetic vermin.

 

[FaujHistorian]

US drone attacks are pushing the tribals of PAK to hands of radicals and thus US was and still is the major source of radicalism and bomb blasts in PAK. PAK knows their region better than morally and intellectually bankrupt yankis from 1000s miles away. US if truly wants to solve the problem and a peaceful resolution of chaos initiated by them, should allow the PAK establishment to slove it their own way. U don't question the romans in Rome unless your are looking for never ending trouble and chaos which exactly the yankis wants.

Jamatia propaganda from Bangladesh now. are your the co-conspirator of Nafis by any chance.

Oh bhai,

Drones do not give birth to Talibaboons. They instead send these beardos to hell.

For example. Mullah Naiku was not produced by drones, he was killed by them.


Just keeping the facts straight, bhai. Just keeping the facts straight.

 

[truthseer]

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This is mardood propaganda by Mullahs and their Jamatia poodles.

If Talibaboons are so good for Girls education, who on earth was bombing girls and boys school in Swat? Pope?

pathetic vermin.

Horrible propaganda they're spreading. Got a paper today saying that Malala and Kiyani are CIA assets and that Taliban are our Muslim brothers!

 

[laiqs@mi]

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This is mardood propaganda by Mullahs and their Jamatia poodles.

If Talibaboons are so good for Girls education, who on earth was bombing girls and boys school in Swat? Pope?

pathetic vermin.

you american agents wont get this

and for sure afghan taliban are our brothers they are fighting there right.
but t.t.p is USA stooge. they bombed schools in swat.
ok these things have been discused in detail...

 

[FaujHistorian]

you american agents wont get this

and for sure afghan taliban are our brothers they are fighting there right.
but t.t.p is USA stooge. they bombed schools in swat.
ok these things have been discused in detail...

Let me ask you a simple question.

Is Bin fing Laden your brother too?

Just want to make sure.


Thank you

 

[Qasibr]

Again you are repeating Jih@di propaganda not too different from the village simpletons.

#1. West "hired and trained" wahabis like one would get a dog to keep your house safe.

You are saying that when the west "hired and trained" wahabis they were harmless and good, and now they've turned bad? You are wrong. The West supported them since the beginning, and still continues to support them now.

In-fact, the West has supported oppressive dictators all over the world. It has attacked over fifty countries in the past five decades, there's ample reading material and documentaries like The War on Democracy by John Pilger. You keep repeating the same moronic ignorant stuff, watch the docu and learn some basic facts. They killed four million Iraqi civilians when they invaded that country after lying about "Weapons of Mass Destruction". They killed millions of Afghans, saying some tin-pot sitting in a cave crippled USA's entire air-defence system resulting in no interceptor aircraft being launched for over an hour, even though in 3rd world countries like Pakistan, if an aircraft does not respond on IFF(Identify Friend or Foe) and is suspected of being hijacked, aircraft are launched within a couple of mins.

The fact of the matter is that while the West talks about civility and humane laws, wherever the West goes, it spreads immense destruction at an unprecedented scale. They used to colonize places outright and force people into slavery. Now they have neo-colonialism and new forms of slavery where people in places like Vietnam work for under $1 a day making shoes for Nike or products for other western mega-corps. If these people get sick or complain about work conditions, they are easily replaced by other people desperate for work. Atleast in olden slavery, they had to feed the slaves and ensure that they were properly fed and clothed. They exploit the weaker countries(3rd world) and if any country does not tow to their line, they instigate regime-change or outright invade 'em. If you look at decades-old stuff they've declassified now, they openly admit to changing regimes in dozens of places, like in Iran in the early 1950's where the US deposed a democratically elected leader(Mossadegh) and propped up their puppet Shah who tortured Iranians.

So when you accuse the Wahabis of being violent and the civilized wonderful West just "training them" to keep their "house safe"... you don't know what you are talking about at all. Village simpleton indeed.

If we're going to have a discussion, atleast keep it factual.

#2 - Your pals Afghan Muj are not fighting Pakistan, then what the f they are doing in FATA? Laying eggs, so you all can make an omelet in the morning?


Man! These simpletons come by the dozens and spread ignorance and anti-Pakistan $hit on the forums.


pathetic.

Afghan Mujahideen are NOT in FATA you retard, none of the Afghan groups are fighting in Pakistan. This is basic knowledge. Mullah Omar and co fight the US, the groups of militants inside Pakistan do not fight the US and just bomb civilian places like markets and mosques.

Go read and learn a bit more about the world, before coming here and giving us all this proof of your high IQ. These secular folks like to pretend to be scientific and factual, but all their argument is essentially just alot of angsty swearing and fact-less rants. They sound like teenagers with daddy issues and absolutely NO knowledge of the world at large.

 

[Mercenary]

US drone attacks are pushing the tribals of PAK to hands of radicals and thus US was and still is the major source of radicalism and bomb blasts in PAK. PAK knows their region better than morally and intellectually bankrupt yankis from 1000s miles away. US if truly wants to solve the problem and a peaceful resolution of chaos initiated by them, should allow the PAK establishment to slove it their own way. U don't question the romans in Rome unless your are looking for never ending trouble and chaos which exactly the yankis wants.

Just like RAB actions Islamic Terrorists in Bangladesh is creating more Terrorists like Bangla Bhai....

 

[A.Rafay]

Are the GOP and army playing games with the people of Pakistan?

Actually its Corrupt afghan government which is Playing games, They have support of RAW And Karzai Supports BLA! And TTP has Indian support that they revealed it themselves.