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Pakistani politicians blast Saudi-led coalition amid row with Qatar

Let me predict one thing , both Govts KSA and Iran will go . Just wait and watch . Both used , abused ISLAM and both will get punishment.
Arabs and Persians need to settle all disputes in them as Arabs and Persians . Not Sunnis and Shias . And please keep sectarian sh!t to your own country.
 
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Saudi Arabia & UAE wants to dominate the gulf region completely by their dominant, aggressive & power hungry royals. America or NATO is the only force which can bring an end to this Saudi hegemony & barbarism, but every military officer, top level diplomats including the President are bought over by large billions of dollars thrown as ransom to shed a blind eye to it's atrocities & parrot the Saudi script.

Even though Qatar has been party to many Saudi misadventures, they have put up with the bullying of the Saudis. Saudis like to say, they are the boss & every body should listen to them. Qatar is saying - NO, It's an independent country. So now the Saudis are using a very severe economic blockade & sanctions against Qatar. Somewhere these bullying will test people's freedom & sovereignty. Qatar is trying to voice its suppression against Saudi royals. So Saudi along with it's other allies have closed all the borders, airspace, everything Qatar depends on & telling them, either you severe your relation with Iran, Hamas, muslim brotherhood policies or we may change the regime & the next stage could be even an invasion of Qatar. This has happened in 1996, they tried to do so, but the American base in Qatar intervened & prevented this invasion. The Saudis are again telling the Qataris, accept the Saudi terms, if you want to survive, or face the consequences.

Donald Trump started of well by announcing strict actions against the Saudis & muslim countries. But Saudis have just increased the ransom by fourfold & bought over Trump with many more other promises. The royals wanted to use this opportunity of bait laid on Trump to pursue their hegemonic control over Qatar. Seeing the opportunity, Qatar was also asked to pay a similar ransom by Trump, but Qataris cannot afford such huge protection money. So Qatar is in a trap either to submit to Saudis or pay up the ransom. So as part of America, they have everything to gain, because Trump rightfully is milking the weaknesses of these power hungry lunatics. Now we need to see, how this is going to take shape & how Trump is going to react to this move of the Saudis.


Gadaffi threatened by the Saudi King, not to question its policies. This is what happens if you question Saudi Arabia.


It's sad many countries including America is in the honey trap of Saudi oil money for decades now. The money which belongs to the people is misused so gravely by the royal family to promote separatism, jihad & violence.

The total value of only American arms sales to Saudi Arabia over the past 40-50 years have crossed 100 Billion Dollars. What a waste of money. If only this money was used for development of Muslim countries or their own poor people. They don't want the poor of the country to be educated or to have money, so they can stay in power & rule for ever.

For centuries the world has witnessed these barbarism which started from the Saudi Arabia & still the world & the muslim countries are just submitting to the barbarism of the Saudis. The Saudis also use the sentimental holy land of Mecca & Medina to exploit & subjugate other Muslim countries to submit to their policies. It will be too late before common sense is going to prevail for the muslim countries. The Muslim world is going to collapse in the next decade as analysts have already predicted the end of use of petroleum based vehicles in the next decade. It's high time countries stand up to this slavery & barbarism to isolate Saudi. The countries which are going to hold power will be economic power houses & not Saudis or the Russians in the coming years. The fall of all these oil dependent countries is not far. It will start from 2025.

Many Pakistanis also take pride in believing they are of Arab ancestry & running behind the Arabs who just use them with no respect or feelings of muslim brotherhood whatsoever.

If Pakistan realizes this madness & know where it's roots & culture are, it can change the course, if not your leaders will keep running from one country to other, to stay in power & save their chair by keeping the common man in fools paradise with propaganda & religious enticement. One of these fascinating story presently sold to the public is the CPEC is moon & star. Unless your country generates a economic foundation of your own, the future could be quite opposite of what people fantasize. You can only pray your country not to end up like Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.

Does Pakistan or other countries have the guts to go to Organisation of Islamic conference & voice the atrocities of Saudi instead of Kashmir. Nothing will change of Kashmir, but lot of things will change if you have the same spine to confront the Arabs hegemony. For that your first need is to see a brother in India & make peace. You may not like my posts, but my views & posts are always based on facts & reality. If you understand it, it will change your fate. If not you can live in your beliefs & let your God save you & your country. Good luck.
 
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Saudi Arabia & UAE wants to dominate the gulf region completely by their dominant, aggressive & power hungry royals. America or NATO is the only force which can bring an end to this Saudi hegemony & barbarism, but every military officer, top level diplomats including the President are bought over by large billions of dollars thrown as ransom to shed a blind eye to it's atrocities & parrot the Saudi script.

Even though Qatar has been party to many Saudi misadventures, they have put up with the bullying of the Saudis. Saudis like to say, they are the boss & every body should listen to them. Qatar is saying - NO, It's an independent country. So now the Saudis are using a very severe economic blockade & sanctions against Qatar. Somewhere these bullying will test people's freedom & sovereignty. Qatar is trying to voice its suppression against Saudi royals. So Saudi along with it's other allies have closed all the borders, airspace, everything Qatar depends on & telling them, either you severe your relation with Iran, Hamas, muslim brotherhood policies or we may change the regime & the next stage could be even an invasion of Qatar. This has happened in 1996, they tried to do so, but the American base in Qatar intervened & prevented this invasion. The Saudis are again telling the Qataris, accept the Saudi terms, if you want to survive, or face the consequences.

Donald Trump started of well by announcing strict actions against the Saudis & muslim countries. But Saudis have just increased the ransom by fourfold & bought over Trump with many more other promises. The royals wanted to use this opportunity of bait laid on Trump to pursue their hegemonic control over Qatar. Seeing the opportunity, Qatar was also asked to pay a similar ransom by Trump, but Qataris cannot afford such huge protection money. So Qatar is in a trap either to submit to Saudis or pay up the ransom. So as part of America, they have everything to gain, because Trump rightfully is milking the weaknesses of these power hungry lunatics. Now we need to see, how this is going to take shape & how Trump is going to react to this move of the Saudis.


Gadaffi threatened by the Saudi King, not to question its policies.


It's sad many countries including America is in the honey trap of Saudi oil money for decades now. The money which belongs to the people is misused so gravely by the royal family to promote separatism, jihad & violence.

The total value of only American arms sales to Saudi Arabia over the past 40-50 years have crossed 100 Billion Dollars. What a waste of money. If only this money was used for development of Muslim countries or their own poor people. They don't want the poor of the country to be educated or to have money, so they can stay in power & rule for ever.

For centuries the world has witnessed these barbarism which started from the Saudi Arabia & still the world & the muslim countries are just submitting to the barbarism of the Saudis. The Saudis also use the sentimental holy land of Mecca & Medina to exploit & subjugate other Muslim countries to submit to their policies. It will be too late before common sense is going to prevail for the muslim countries. The Muslim world is going to collapse in the next decade as analysts have already predicted the end of use of petroleum based vehicles in the next decade. It's high time countries stand up to this slavery & barbarism to isolate Saudi. The countries which are going to hold power will be economic power houses & not Saudis or the Russians in the coming years. The fall of all these oil dependent countries is not far. It will start from 2025.

Many Pakistanis also take pride in believing they are of Arab ancestry & running behind the Arabs who just use them with no respect or feelings of muslim brotherhood whatsoever.

If Pakistan realizes this madness & know where it's roots & culture are, it can change the course, if not your leaders will keep running from one country to other, to stay in power & save their chair by keeping the common man in fools paradise with propaganda & religious enticement. One of these fascinating story presently sold to the public is the CPEC is moon & star. Unless your country generates a economic foundation of your own, the future could be quite opposite of what people fantasize. You can only pray your country not to end up like Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Libya, Afghanistan, etc.

Does Pakistan or other countries have the guts to go to Organisation of Islamic conference & voice the atrocities of Saudi instead of Kashmir. Nothing will change of Kashmir, but lot of things will change if you have the same spine to confront the Arabs hegemony. For that your first need is to see a brother in India & make peace. You may not like my posts, but my views & posts are always based on facts & reality. If you understand it, it will change your fate. If not you can live in your beliefs & let your God save you & your country. Good luck.

Thanks I agree with the red part.
We will stay neutral on this and if India can play a constructive role in ME, nobody is stopping it just like the alleged troop stationing in Afghanistan.
Welcome to Hell
 
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Thanks I agree with the red part.
We will stay neutral on this and if India can play a constructive role in ME, nobody is stopping it just like the alleged troop stationing in Afghanistan.
Welcome to Hell

We have nothing to do with the Middle East war. If countries in Middle East want to kill each other for their ulterior & selfish motives, what's the purpose for us to be part of this madness. What do we have to gain.

Indian government is closely in talks & will continue to balance the diplomatic relationship with Gulf nations. In-fact, if these tensions can keep oil prices down, it's good for India. We are only worried of the safety of lakhs of our Indians working in these Gulf countries. That's our only concern. Innocents should not pay the price with their lives in these dirty proxy wars.

Afghanistan was a stable & happy country before 1980. India wants to see a similar Afghanistan & is doing it's part for re-storing normalcy by training & by investing in infrastructure, education, healthcare & sectors of economic development. We have to safeguard our investments for its growth. I have mentioned, If Pakistan has normal relations with India, all the problems with Afghanistan will end. You are willing to sacrifice innocent lives but can't make friendship with India. That's the choice you have made.

The best example is Bangladesh. We could have occupied it after the 1971 war, but we didn't. They don't feel any threat from India, because they have good relations with India. And today it has a better economy than Pakistan in-spite of being smaller in size. Their currency is stronger & even their forex reserves is much higher than Pakistan. They are also Muslims, they were part of Pakistan, but how come they don't feel so in-secure about India. Same is the case with Nepal, Bhutan, Srilanka, Myanmaar, etc where they have same religion like India. This is a question you need to ask. We want to achieve the same with Afghanistan.
 
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We have nothing to do with the Middle East war. If countries in Middle East want to kill each other for their ulterior & selfish motives, what's the purpose for us to be part of this madness. What do we have to gain.

Indian government is closely in talks & will continue to balance the diplomatic relationship with Gulf nations and follow the ongoing geopolitical tensions in Gulf areas. In-fact, if these tensions can keep oil prices down, it's in the interest of India. We are only worried of the safety of lakhs of our Indians working in Qatar, Saudi, UAE, Bahrain & surrounding countries. That's our only concern. Innocents should not pay the price with their lives in between the power struggle of these unwanted dirty proxy wars.

We are supporting Afghanistan, because Pakistan want to control Afghanistan as it's client state. Afghanistan was a stable & happy country before 1980. India wants to see a similar Afghanistan & is doing it's part for re-storing normalcy by training & by investing in infrastructure, education, healthcare & sectors of economic developments. We have to safeguard our investments in Afghanistan for its growth. If Pakistan has normal relations with India, all its problems with Afghanistan will cease. You are willing to sacrifice innocent lives but can't make friendship with India. That's the choice you have made.

The best example is Bangladesh. We could have occupied it after the 1971 war, but we vacated. It has no nuclear weapons & it can even today be occupied by India in an hour. But they don't feel any threat from India, because they have good relations with India. And today it has a better economy than Pakistan inspite of being smaller in size. Their currency is stronger & even their forex reserves is much higher than Pakistan. They are also Muslims, they were part of Pakistan, but how come they don't feel so in-secure about India. Same is the case with Nepal, Bhutan, Srilanka, Myanmaar, etc where they have same religion like India. This is a question you need to ask. We want to achieve the same with Afghanistan.

Does it ever occur to you others might think differently? Pakistan has never stopped India from conducting business with the Afghans. If you want we can transfer those refugees to Gujrat so you can educate them and deliver them back to Afghanistan after you have built the country.
Why Afghanistan where you have no immediate border such a concern to you after all? Nah just do not answer that.

Pakistan has proven to be always the first to put their hands forward for friendship and peace. 1955 1952 1962 1999 2001 2007 2011. But you fail to understand friendship means business and respect equally. You can let go of your dreams of bullying Pakistan into anything even peace. That just don't work.

Even now we are willing to talk peace and friendship our only bone of contention is Kashmir. Lets decide on Kashmir before we go further west across the Durand Line with our discussion. I still believe in Jinnahs vision of Indo-Pak relations like the American-Canadian model. Its not our problem that you paint us as Mexicans which is far from the truth.
 
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We have nothing to do with the Middle East war. If countries in Middle East want to kill each other for their ulterior & selfish motives, what's the purpose for us to be part of this madness. What do we have to gain.

Indian government is closely in talks & will continue to balance the diplomatic relationship with Gulf nations. In-fact, if these tensions can keep oil prices down, it's good for India. We are only worried of the safety of lakhs of our Indians working in these Gulf countries. That's our only concern. Innocents should not pay the price with their lives in these dirty proxy wars.

Afghanistan was a stable & happy country before 1980. India wants to see a similar Afghanistan & is doing it's part for re-storing normalcy by training & by investing in infrastructure, education, healthcare & sectors of economic development. We have to safeguard our investments for its growth. I have mentioned, If Pakistan has normal relations with India, all the problems with Afghanistan will end. You are willing to sacrifice innocent lives but can't make friendship with India. That's the choice you have made.

The best example is Bangladesh. We could have occupied it after the 1971 war, but we didn't. They don't feel any threat from India, because they have good relations with India. And today it has a better economy than Pakistan in-spite of being smaller in size. Their currency is stronger & even their forex reserves is much higher than Pakistan. They are also Muslims, they were part of Pakistan, but how come they don't feel so in-secure about India. Same is the case with Nepal, Bhutan, Srilanka, Myanmaar, etc where they have same religion like India. This is a question you need to ask. We want to achieve the same with Afghanistan.
Keep yourself strict to the topic,and sale your old "manjan"of friendship any where else.every one know the hindu mentality and your chankiya politics
 
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Keep yourself strict to the topic,and sale your old "manjan"of friendship any where else.every one know the hindu mentality and your chankiya politics

I have only answered to your friend's reply. I always sell my friendship everywhere. And who's this everyone.
 
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In fact it was Pakistan that supported taliban insane jihads is for 3 decades.

Taliban never ruled for 3 decades.

However, Iran/US/Indian backed Northern Alliance captured civilian Pashtoons after carpet bombing and shoot them all dead in custody. Buried them in mass graves, reminds what happened in Sistan after revolution of 1979.

Takfirism, barbarism and wahhabism come from Najd.

All three words were launched by holy revolutionaries in Iran, echoed by its serpents in Pakistan and Afghanistan. Clearly objective was mischief.
 
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There was a blind hafiz jee named raheel(no canoncial connection) who was going around a road when he heard two women of his neighborhood arguing.
Both were deriding each other on looks and other things. As the Hafiz jee drew closer one of the women grabbed him and said
"You are soo ugly even this our blind hafiz jee wont marry you"

The other said
"Me, you are the one who looks like a horse- hafiz jee will marry me happily " and she dragged him by his hand towards herself.

Seeing this the other lady grabbed his hand and dragged him "No, he will marry me you ugly cow"

Now hafiz jee who normally would have no interaction was truly happy at this time having both women dragging his hand.
Then one woman went "you witch, ill teach you- hafiz jee you go"

So the hafiz jee starts to go disappointed
But then another grabs his hand "No hafiz je, you stay! Ill fix her"
The other says "no".. "stay".. "go".. "stay".. and so on..
So the hafiz jee stands there confused, after all two women just propsoed to him apparently..

Meanwhile both women set their hands upon each other and started rolling on the ground punching and pulling away. Eventually they got up some distance from where the fight began and left for their homes.

Now the hafiz jee meanwhile stood there hoping that his good luck of finding a wife would come true, but after 40 minutes of not hearing anything, the hafiz jee asked meekly

"Wives, not to be impolite but it is a little late and I wanted to know what you both have decided- should I stay or should I go?"
 
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As a beginning sir, we have an ideology which our leadership follows. And it is, hurting Israel by every means.
In this way, we have some problems with UK-USA's allies who want to destroy resistance groups in both Palestine and Lebanon. Adel-Al-Jubair, Saudi FM, says that Qatar is supporting terrorism because supports Hamas, on the other hand the same thing about Hezbollah that is fighting Israel and it's ISISi mercenaries in the region. Isn't it fishy? It makes them an enemy of Iran, they , under USA's command, will try to hurt Iran by all means, religious, racial, tribal and anything that can hurt our main ideology. And they were successful in Syria and Iraq by spreading wahabi beliefs.
I wanna spare you from our problems with KSA, and as i said the best scenario for me is a neutral Pakistan. Stands aside and watches annihilation of Israel and it's supporter families.
Do you have any proof of the assertion that GCC wants to destroy resistance groups in Palestine and Lebanon or is this another narrative-building effort on the part of your leaders to remain relevant in Iranian circles of power? How long you people will continue to believe the liars in your state?

Fact # 1: Qatar is one of the UK-USA allies in the region.
Fact # 2: Saudi-Qatar dispute has nothing to do with issues of Palestine and Hamas. It has more to do with shoddy connections of Qatari elite and its patronage of Arab Spring movement.

As far as dealings with US are concerned, it is OK for your leaders to strike a deal with US for any matter but same is wrong for Saudi Arabia? Hypocrisy much?

I must warn you that this narrative-building will have tragic consequences for the Islamic bloc at large. Check post # 134 in this thread: https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/qata...mecca-grand-mosque.501053/page-9#post-9567737
 
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Every one means every sensible person here on pdf

I still don't understand who's this every sensible person. Am I one of them. Are you one of them.

For me everyone sounded the world. Anyway can you deny, most of the world will invariably choose a Hindu Indian anytime over a Pakistani, because they can blindly trust the Hindu mentality as a far safer bet than a Pakistani.
 
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