Pakistani Passport holder @ Israel "How?"

[Raja.Pakistani]

Israel is terrorist state and Pakistan should never recognise their existence which were at the expense of Palestinians. Its moral obligation to oppose aggressor. We should not act like typical selfish baniya who just go for money or political interest at any cost.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

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Saba Rasheed at Ben Gurion Airport.
Tel Aviv, Israel ·
I am home.

"This passport is valid for all countries of the world except Israel"
These are the exact words engraved on my Pakistani passport.
Well it's about time Pakistan ends this bullshit-ism and accepts Israels existence. WE need to accept that fact that Israel is a country. Israel has always been a country. And Israel will ALWAYS remain a country, on the globe and in our hearts.

Thank you ZOA - Zionist Organization of America and Zach Stern for making this happen.

How ?

There is nothing much to it....... in the Apartheid Era, the Indian Passport was valid for travel to all countries except South Africa and Rhodesia. But I travelled there nonetheless, nobody cared

 

[Norwegian]

Millions of tourists each year - but even tourists face harassment there including many Christians as well. Dont think its appropriate to bring in Iran or Saudi here

Tourists are not arrested and taken to unknown locations in Israel

 

[livingdead]

When did Palestinian officials condemn India last time that our borders got bombed in war or relative peace? Never. Please explain your love for people you have no contact with?

My personal position? I don't care about either - the Israelis or the Palestinians, however, if you ask me who I despise more? I'd go with Palestinians. If you ask why, then I'd say read about treacherous PLO (vis-a-vis Pakistan) and Yaser Arafat, and before that read more about Palestinians and Arabs in general, better yet, experience some Arab love yourself.

Furthermore, next time don't confuse national interests with your brainwashed mind.

it will be odd if Palestinians support you or open their mouth in a bilateral issue... because we have been consistent supporter of two state theory(israel-palestine that is)... they have more to gain from our influence than pakistan's

 

[khanz]

Sorry to sound like a complete nut job but out of curiosity i just checked out the link which took me to her fb page and i gotta say it made me sick she probably could be of pakistani origin but not really muslim this bint should be ashamed she is clearly on the zio payroll heck look at her arm with the huge satanic baphomet tattoo and posing with IDF soldiers and speaking at zionist conferences ! a Muslim zionist is like a black klansman let's not forget israel is a master of deception and propoganda and known for their online activities I usually don't like to get into this judgemental religious stuff but she is a faker and a hasbara troll for sure

 

[Dalit]

LOL @ those proposing normal relations between Pakistan and Israel.

Let the Israelis first normalize relations with their direct neighbors who they always perceive hostile and a threat. Pakistan is thousands of miles away and we couldn't care less to be honest.

 

[Bouncer]

Either she is a dual national and traveled on the other passport. Or Israel doesn't care what is written on our passport "valid for all countries except Israel". Funny thing that we don't recognize Israel, but we are acknowledging that it is a country.

Personally I think Pak should open relations with Israel. Closing our eyes is not helping anyone. I say open the relations, start trade so you have at least some leverage over them. And then we can actually help Palestinians.

Let the Israelis first normalize relations with their direct neighbors who they always perceive hostile and a threat. Pakistan is thousands of miles away and we couldn't care less to be honest.

Right. Pakistan is thousands of miles away and yet we try to act like Taaya Abbu in this case.

 

[khanz]

does anyone else find it odd that pakistan has good relations with muslim majority countries like turkey,egypt, morocco , indonesia ,maldives,jordan,tunisia the all have diplomatic relations with israel heck many even allow israelis to visit without a visa yet we have good relations with all these countries but if a pakistani even suggests it they are labelled as traitor to the so called ummah so why don't we say the same for all these countries ? lets not forget Pakistan had a big hand in massacre of palestinians in black september helping their jordanian buddies so it's not about caring about palestinians but more about bending over for arabs.If tomorrow saudi arabia suddenly decides to have open diplomatic relations pakistan will probably start changing its tune.Not saying there should be relations with israel but it's time to admit pakistanis are hypocrites.

 

[Solomon2]

When Palestine State is recognized we should be first to recognize israel as well -

Which Palestine State would that be - the Hussein one, the Abbas one, or the Hamas one? All three plus Israel occupy territory that the League of Nations' Palestine Mandate + Ottoman Caliph declared the Jewish National Home that Jews should "closely settle".

Pakistan should NOT accept Israel & Pakistan should NOT have any diplomatic ties with Israel, end of story.

That's certainly the view of Pakistan's H.E.C. which forbids anything that could portray Israel in a good light as a betrayal of the "Palestinian" cause: link. To them, Palestinianism is Pakistan's holy and unquestionable religion.

This will turn into kufr and Islam war and there will be massive protests in Pakistan this i can garauntee

Does "massive protests" mean endless violence or a chance for progressive forces to show their strength and marginalize the militants?

In Chinese "crisis" is a compound word: danger + opportunity. How big can the danger be, compared to the payoff? In Turkey the gov't changed course 180 degrees with nary a protest on the streets - the militants tucking in their tails (or perhaps already departed to Iraq and Syria.)

 

[Zibago]

Which Palestine State would that be - the Hussein one, the Abbas one, or the Hamas one? All three plus Israel occupy territory that the League of Nations' Palestine Mandate + Ottoman Caliph declared the Jewish National Home that Jews should "closely settle".

That's certainly the view of Pakistan's H.E.C. which forbids anything that could portray Israel in a good light as a betrayal of the "Palestinian" cause: link. To them, Palestinianism is Pakistan's holy and unquestionable religion.

Does "massive protests" mean endless violence or a chance for progressive forces to show their strength and marginalize the militants?

In Chinese "crisis" is a compound word: danger + opportunity. How big can the danger be, compared to the payoff? In Turkey the gov't changed course 180 degrees with nary a protest on the streets - the militants tucking in their tails (or perhaps already departed to Iraq and Syria.)

Pakistan is no turkey it will take atleast 10-15 more years before we could even debate that in Pakistan as of now people are not willing to do that

 

[Solomon2]

Pakistan is no turkey it will take atleast 10-15 more years before we could even debate that in Pakistan as of now people are not willing to do that

What part of leadership are you missing, Zibago?

 

[Zibago]

What part of leadership are you missing, Zibago?

Not leadership but the population is not ready to accept this as of now

 

[Solomon2]

Not leadership but the population is not ready to accept this as of now

Changing what people accept is what civilized leaders do, Zibago. Otherwise their only function is to lead mobs, yes?

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Pre-67 borders, with Jerusalem as a de-centralized (along lines of Vatican) region co-owned by Palestine and Israel and run by clergy of 3 holy faiths

 

[IceCold]

I agree with the OP. Pakistan really needs to end this BS and accept Israel as a reality. They are country and they are not going anywhere. Besides not accepting them hasnt helped one bit as far as Palestine cause is concerned.