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One of My friend told me its better to study in Pakistan then UK.Coz you hav to spent in lakhs there in UK.While on that much money Teacher will come to your home and will teach you alone.

If a Student want Education he can get it anywhere.Its Up To You.

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The video is about the extreme case....i mean don't go to bogus colleges.....go to ones that are already highly trusted.....if your parents cannot afford you or you cannot get scholarship, don't go to UK...........study in Pakistan......
 
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Dear, there are sadly no institutes like King's College, Oxford or Cambridge in Pakistan. The level of learning and exposure you get from these institution arm you with a plutonic method of critical thinking. something none of our universities can offer. Its sad but true. The important thing is go to learn, and come back with a pledge to serve your country by utilizing your expertise, despite the hurdles that you will face in doing so. Don't loose your identity, strengthen it instead.

Surely you have heard of this hadees: Gain knowledge, even if you have to go to China for the achievement of this purpose.

I will be surprise if most Pakistani students end up there, very unlikely. Fact of the matter is most of them end up in 4 year college which are equivalent or less compare to many Pakistani university. Although I agree on the fact that Muslim country failed to produce world class university, like oxford or Cambridge.
 
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First not many ppl send their daughters to foriegn countries... even if they do... they r accompanied by a male family member....3)only rich send their kids abroad..... such cases r very very rare... like .000001% out of 100%.
 
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Pakistan needs to start laying the foundations to produce our very own Oxbridge using the European (Swedish/U.K) or the Iranian system as a model however expecting some quick fix is stupid especially with this blood sucking government that rather line it’s own pocket than spend it on educating the masses, after all they benefit the greatest from having an illiterate nation.

Security/Economic/Energy crises situation is plaguing the country and it’s vital our country becomes stable, once the foundation has been laid along with funding slowly but surely we can attract the best in the field whether that be Iranian, Sri Lankan, Bengali, Chinese, Afghan or even European lecturers to come educate our people.
 
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I would advice all Pakistanis to do two degrees in Pakistan as oppose to coming here... All notes from MIT are available on openware and other university lectures are also available as podcasts in case if some students want to determine the difference in course structure or content....

Do not waste your money living here like sardines and live in stressfull and anxiety conditions as some students I have come across in past. I have no comment on pissheads like Bill or bob( bilawal bhutto) who come here disrespect country and malign religion for their selfish interests.
 
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Well, in a Western country, you have to do everything yourself. In Pakistan, most parents really spoil their children by providing them everything, & don't let them 'grow'. In a Western country, you won't have your mother or servant to take care of everything for you, or a driver to drop off to work. On top of that, the economy in the West is doing terribly as well. But people here in the West are allowed to grow mentally & intellectually, which they aren't as much in Pakistan, or Asia. There is no difference in conditions for males & females here, no one forces women to do what they don't want to do in Western countries. People need to let women think independently & make their own choices in life, even if they disagree with them completely.
 
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With regard to your earlier post....Queen Mary no longer is a leading institute.....i mean they have dropped in prestige and rankings......and LSE......My brother goes there for study abroad (originally he is in a US college)......and his list of complaints doesn't stop....lol...and LSE isn't even 'Centuries old'....only Oxford and Cambridge are....and it's a shame to put LSE in the same list as Oxbridge.........those institutions are a league apart......i mean Cavendish....Newton.......you can't put them in the same league as some politician non-sense :no:

With regard to your second post.....the number of Pakistani Students in USA was 5000....i went to USA as well.......and you can get in all kinds of colleges in USA if you are willing to foot the $40,000 per year bill.....however getting scholarship/financial aid as foreign national is truly another story............there are low ranked state schools and elite public schools....

that was not the point...you can refer to latest list of institute ranking on times, but still LSE is a 19th century college and sociology as a subject incepted in Oxford by mid of 20th century...which doesnot mean they teach sociology poorly, many oxford colleges are poor in their ranking...so it was basically the brand and general quality that I was referring to, otherwise, parhna tou ham ne khud hi hota hai... chahay taat ke school mein ya ac walay room mein...

for the complains part, I do understand our mentality, we want everything to be spoon feeding, so Pakistani janaat mien bhi complain hi kar rahe hongay...
 
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The program has exaggerated the situation,Showing minority who come in here with admissions in ill-rated colleges and try to earn money through cash in hand jobs,On the contrary nothing can match the quality of education in Universities and government affiliated colleges of London.
 
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Dear, there are sadly no institutes like King's College, Oxford or Cambridge in Pakistan. The level of learning and exposure you get from these institution arm you with a plutonic method of critical thinking. something none of our universities can offer. Its sad but true. The important thing is go to learn, and come back with a pledge to serve your country by utilizing your expertise, despite the hurdles that you will face in doing so. Don't loose your identity, strengthen it instead.

Surely you have heard of this hadees: Gain knowledge, even if you have to go to China for the achievement of this purpose.
bhaiy , it is no hadees , i am telling you this for sure as my IsLamiC teacher once told us about this saying being associated/regarded as hadees but in fact it is actually not ... kindly do towba for this mistake of yours ...
 
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‘Best and brightest’ migrants forced out of the UK

http://www.leftfootf...rced-out-of-uk/ By Calynn Dowler,

With no hint of irony, immigration minister Damian Green has been busy touting the UK’s efforts to bring ‘the best and brightest’ migrants to its shores.

In recent remarks he implored international students to ‘please come’ and attempted to reassure the world that the ‘brightest students and the best are as welcome as ever to Britain’. Ambitious young migrants must not have heard, though, because they’re packing their bags for home.

As of April 2012, tighter regulations for international students and the elimination of the post-study work visa have many students feeling unjustly targetedunder the coalition government’s immigration clampdown.

The removal of the post-study work visa, in particular, has crushed the dreams of those who had hoped to gain work experience in the UK for a year or two after their studies.

We are only now beginning to see the effects of this change, as the first batch of affected students prepares to leave the UK.

Whilst many other countries (e.g. U.S., Australia) use post-study work schemes to retain skilled graduates, the UK appears eager to be rid of its non-EU students. Since it will now be next to impossible for international students to realise a return on the substantial investment of a UK degree, it shouldn’t be surprising if they are discouraged from coming in the first place. For the £4 billion UK higher education industry, that’s reason for concern.

Consider the stories of Lisa and Clint, two talented young migrants who had hoped to build their careers in the UK:

Lisa, an aspiring journalist, initially came from the U.S. for a temporary position with The Economist. She remained here on a prestigious Fulbright scholarship and completed a postgraduate degree in Science Journalism at City University London. Lisa held work placements at New Scientist and the Times, and also freelanced for The Economist, New Scientist, and Science magazine.

Lisa has built up a strong network of contacts during her time here, but without a post-study work visa she says that interviewers see her as ‘essentially un-hireable’. If she had a short-term visa, she could build more solid professional relationships with publications and eventually secure sponsorship. As it stands, though, even with all of the skills she has developed in the UK, Lisa must leave.


Lisa arrived in the UK thinking she would have the chance to stay on to work for a year or two after completing her studies. When she found out about the changes, she even requested that her university grant her degree early so that she wouldn’t miss the April cut-off. She said:


“Sadly, those few months will make an enormous difference in the path of my life from here forward.”​

If Lisa had known that she wouldn’t have the chance to develop her career here after her studies, she doubts that she would have ever applied to study in the UK. Disillusioned by this aspect of her stay, Lisa is resigned to seeking work in the U.S.

She remarked:


“I feel I am just the kind of person the UK would want to keep around – a law-abiding, hard-working, honest and smart person who has a promising career ahead of me.

Unfortunately I feel I’ve been booted out just at the start of that promising career, which seems to me a waste of the educational resources the UK has invested in me.”​

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If current restrictions had been in place four years ago, Clint* would never have been allowed into the UK, and he certainly would not have been allowed to remain to work. Clint, aged 26, arrived from the U.S. on a Tier 4 student dependent visa while his partner took up a prestigious scholarship at Oxford University.

Clint is now giving back to the UK by working in the charity sector. Unfortunately, as he puts it:


“The UK is not going to get the investment they made in me because they are kicking me out.”​

In his time in the UK, Clint has started four NGOs, contributed original research to Oxford, worked at national charities, and supported over 100 community organisations. This January, his visa, granted under the post-study work scheme, will expire.

Work in the charity sector means that Clint’s income doesn’t meet the requirement to switch into another category under the points-based scheme. He said:


“I’ve been extremely grateful to the UK for giving the opportunity to live and work and make my life and other people’s lives better, but I also thought that the connections and the reason I was doing this was not just to be thrown away at the end.

“I want these connections and relationships I’ve built in the UK to last my lifetime, but it feels like they will end with these restrictions. It’s a shame for me personally, but it’s a shame for the country as well. Those relationships have social and financial value to the well-being of the country.”​

Right now Clint is mid-career, has contacts in his field, and has successfully integrated into the UK. It is the perfect time for him to make the most of what he has learned and contribute to society here. Nonetheless, he will not be able to do so. In planning for the future over the past six months, Clint has felt ‘vulnerable’ and ‘trapped by these processes’.

Despite the UK government’s claims, it is not a mere matter of perception that studying in the UK has become more difficult for foreign students. As a result, these rule changes are much more likely to drive the ‘best and brightest’ away than to attract them.

Amidst sensationalist narratives of migrants as ‘benefits grabbers’ or ‘bogus’ students, the stories of young people like Lisa and Clint are not usually highlighted. People rarely think about the fact that these policies will send talented young people like them home.

Nonetheless, Lisa and Clint have very bright careers ahead – and they will be taking the skills they have developed here in the UK with them when they leave. If these policies continue, their departures will be only the first of many.

*Name has been changed.

http://www.leftfootf...rced-out-of-uk/
 
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