Pakistani daily concerned over India's hiked defence budget

[Zhukov]

Ahmadnawar notion

1. that you need massive supremacy in nos of troops and equipment to launch a successful miliary operation is fundementally wrong and proves he has never read up on modern conflict.

Germany invaded europe outnumbered 2-1 in troops & tanks and took western europe in weeks.

Israel smashed 4 arab armies three times the size on land & air in 1967


2. He does not realise that india,s objective in a war with pakistan is not mass invasion of pakistan by million troops to take land.

India will not take territory their objective will be to destroy pakistan military infrastucture, energy and comminication centres and your main nuclear plant/ powerstation. Main objective to cause severe destruction of your small Navy & Air force.

They will not race in to take land or cross the borders more than 50km as they wish to keep their supply lines short.

For this reason india needs superior Navy assests & more fourth generation fighters and better real time comincation thru better awacs & satalite cover.

You dont need to outnumbering you guys by 3-1 WE JUST NEED enough muscle to severly damage your assets.

Weapons
Reserves
Money
Manpower
Fuel
Energy

All of these areas india outmatches pakistan in some cases 10-1 (forex reserves)

Na beta I will not let this thread end on such stupid note.
Now its you indians arguing numerical superiority means nothing in war. By the same Double edge that means Pakistan can also Defeat india and clean sweep like hitler did in europe. OK fine I accept your logic.
BTW dont be such cry babies over the realization that Mighty India have lost its Numerical superiority due to confused policy of its defence establishment and wasting of resources.
I know all about modern war tactics. But you don't know that Pakistan is also a 21st century force. and the counter punch you will receive will be from a 21st century force not 60s or 70s era and this time only half yoir size unlike the 1/4th so think twice before targetting our military and civil infrastructure.
Now let this thread go. The topic is done that was regarding the defence spending.
And now indians are arguing size doesn't matter lolz.
Any senior Indian friend here to please keep these cry babies quite?

 

[danger007]

Pakistan builds its own APCs, India doesn't.

Pakistan builds its 100% present and future tank requirement now, India doesn't.

Pakistan builds 2 training aircrafts, which carry out 80% of our flight training, India doesn't.

Pakistan is building its own fighter aircraft, slated to replace 60% of our fighter fleet, India doesn't.

Pakistan builds its own small arms for military, India doesn't, minus the crap INSAS.

Pakistan builds howitzers at home, India doesn't.

Pakistan builds both medium and long range MBRLs at home, India doesn't.

Pakistan builds 80% of its MANPADs, India doesn't.

Almost 60% of Pakistan's ATGM rounds are Pakistan made, unlike Indian army.

Now Pakistan builds Frigates and subs at home too.

Pakistan satisfies almost 100% of its munitions requirements.

Moral of the story. When we increase our spending on defense, unlike India, most of it goes back to our GDP.

We don't need to 'match' India, we just have to develop at our own pace.

last but not least India won the wars... Pak doesn't. ..

 

[danger007]

Derailed.

not derailed ... just they gave answers for the false claim... nothing to worry. . We are not going to fight war in upcoming years... and our defence budget likely to increase yearly... as well our defence procurement. .

 

[gslv mk3]

"But it is also important to remember how the Nawaz government reacted to Operation Shakti in May 1998. When India conducted five nuclear tests, Pakistan conducted six,"

We tested TNs.What did Pakistan test?

 

[Zhukov]

last but not least India won the wars... Pak doesn't. ..

on west Pakistan fronts.Your wet dreams. Stick to your Class room history.
You won only when you outnumbered 1-10 in east Pakistan against 34,000 contingent force stuck in counter insurgency in a hostile enviornment with almost no air support.
Now I am not going to comment in this thread.
time for indian trolls to ruin a technical thread with self proclaimed history crap. best of luck

 

[MKI 30]

Pakistanis are concerned every time whats new in this? Fact is India is superior quantity wise and quality wise as well. Much like what the situation is between India and China wherein China leads by a big margin on both parameters.

However where Pakistan is right in being concerned it also knows WAR is no longer an option to settle matters. This goes for India as well. The Nukes only bring parity and would keep both of our nations from confronting directly.

But Proxy war and insurgencies would be the most preferred choice for meeting objectives. Pakistan is suffering because of homegrown terror while International agencies are happy to pour petrol to that fire.

Pakistan should then be concerned about dealing with homegrown terrorists who have formed sleeper cells all over Pakistan.

 

[danger007]

on west Pakistan fronts.Your wet dreams. Stick to your Class room history.
You won only when you outnumbered 1-10 in east Pakistan against 34,000 contingent force stuck in counter insurgency in a hostile enviornment with almost no air support.
Now I am not going to comment in this thread.
time for indian trolls to ruin a technical thread with self proclaimed history crap. best of luck

whatever floats your boat.. so you wanna claim pakistan won the wars ...lol... why not claim 10 PA vs 10000000IA. .. whenever those wars come in topic... you guys claim outnumbered. .. I don't know what to call it... incompetence? ??

 

[Zarrar Alvi]

no we are not concerned couple of nukes is enough for you people , concerned to wo hota hai jinka pass nuke na ho baby neighbours

 

[Storm Force]

Look the simple status quo exists.

India has saichn glaciers. And kargil and kashmir.

India controls the water as it flows from himlsyers into our dams

India has the bigger clout globally by virtue of industrial supremacy in this region

Indian navy is the dominant navy in the Indian ocean.

India does not need a war and will not intiate a war. We are happy with the status quo.

Pakistanis are desperate they can't change this status quo hence their Indian centric mindset.

They fear Indian hegomoney

 

[Zhukov]

Look the simple status quo exists.

India has saichn glaciers. And kargil and kashmir.

India controls the water as it flows from himlsyers into our dams

India has the bigger clout globally by virtue of industrial supremacy in this region

Indian navy is the dominant navy in the Indian ocean.

India does not need a war and will not intiate a war. We are happy with the status quo.

Pakistanis are desperate they can't change this status quo hence their Indian centric mindset.

They fear Indian hegomoney

We are ok. Our defence is enough to thwart any indian aggression now.
as for your dreams
keep talking
:bla: :bla: :bla:

 

[Icewolf]

We are very concerned!! India has 90% poverty but spending like a first world country when it comes to military

 

[Storm Force]

ICEWOLF.

You should be MORE concerned about INDIA,S £300 billion forex reseves and $2 trillion GDP

 

[alpha q]

no we are not concerned couple of nukes is enough for you people , concerned to wo hota hai jinka pass nuke na ho baby neighbours

Couple of nukes not going to make good anything for you, in return it would bring a salvo necessary to demolish pak as a state.

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We are ok. Our defence is enough to thwart any indian aggression now.
as for your dreams
keep talking
:bla: :bla: :bla:

we dont want anything from you guyz, there is nothing left to you which woul interest india.

We are very concerned!! India has 90% poverty but spending like a first world country when it comes to military

Bhai ye poverty hai ya mathematics ke marks kabhi 50% hoti hai kabhi 70% hoti hai kabhi tukke mein 90% ho jate hain...

 

[Echo_419]

Pakistanis are concerned every time whats new in this? Fact is India is superior quantity wise and quality wise as well. Much like what the situation is between India and China wherein China leads by a big margin on both parameters.

However where Pakistan is right in being concerned it also knows WAR is no longer an option to settle matters. This goes for India as well. The Nukes only bring parity and would keep both of our nations from confronting directly.

But Proxy war and insurgencies would be the most preferred choice for meeting objectives. Pakistan is suffering because of homegrown terror while International agencies are happy to pour petrol to that fire.

Pakistan should then be concerned about dealing with homegrown terrorists who have formed sleeper cells all over Pakistan.

Pakistanis were thinking that Chinese would enter any conflict that they would start,now as Sino-Indian Relations are reaching new heights every day,they are worried if the Chinese will even interfere or not.

Couple of nukes not going to make good anything for you, in return it would bring a salvo necessary to demolish pak as a state.

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we dont want anything from you guyz, there is nothing left to you which woul interest india.


Bhai ye poverty hai ya mathematics ke marks kabhi 50% hoti hai kabhi 70% hoti hai kabhi tukke mein 90% ho jate hain...

Bhai Icewolf ko Rehene do uska logic ajeeb hai,use Sirf Rape or poverty hi Dikti hai

 

[MKI 30]

Pakistanis were thinking that Chinese would enter any conflict that they would start,now as Sino-Indian Relations are reaching new heights every day,they are worried if the Chinese will even interfere or not.

Pakistanis WANT Chinese to enter into battle as they know they can't win over India. The desperation to get someone fighting their own war actually makes them ignore the reality. Chinese are masters at maintaining relations with countries. Chinese have milked the Pakistanis so bad on plethora of contracts as well as the decision to hand over some part of J&K to China.

At the same time I also cannot discount logistical support from China in the form of supply of ammunition and even SAM. But if they are believing that Chinese would open a new front on North Eastern Border of India to split India's forces in two is day dreaming.

But how can anyone convince them when they are bold over by Chinese investments all favorable to China.