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@Azlan Haider can you give me link to your thread you made on Hadiths?
Thanks for the link yr btw few days back a lot of members said that "but oh Quran doesn't tell us about salat" when i said that Quran doesn't say anywhere to kill the blasphemers (you know the hot debate we both are having with a lot of members these days) so today after reading your thread i decided to search about salaat in Quran and look what i found... http://www.quran-islam.org/faq/where_is_salat_in_quran_(P1377).html what do you think of this? but i still have a question azlan hadiths are sayings of Prophet we can say not all of them are authentic and are right but how we learn about life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) than? i mean how we learned about Taif incident and so many other things? kind of a noobie question but i want to know this.
Thanks for the link yr btw few days back a lot of members said that "but oh Quran doesn't tell us about salat" when i said that Quran doesn't say anywhere to kill the blasphemers (you know the hot debate we both are having with a lot of members these days) so today after reading your thread i decided to search about salaat in Quran and look what i found... http://www.quran-islam.org/faq/where_is_salat_in_quran_(P1377).html what do you think of this? but i still have a question azlan hadiths are sayings of Prophet we can say not all of them are authentic and are right but how we learn about life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) than? i mean how we learned about Taif incident and so many other things? kind of a noobie question but i want to know this.
I didn't get this part i mean i am not saying one shouldn't perform salat all i wanted to know was your opinion on this because in Quran we're told to perform only 3 salats and Quran tells us each and every thing about salat and how to perform it. http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat_(P1192).htmlIf "Salat Method" were really as important as Mullahs will have us believe, don't you think that Allah almighty, when he told us to establish Salat more than 600 times in the Holy Qur'an, could have also told us the "proper" method at least one time
Means we can dismiss the Hadith where Prophet refused to punish the man who murdered his maid for blasphemy. Only if jazbaati people understood this.As for the other point, I believe wholesale rejection of Hadith is as wrong as uncritical acceptance..
I didn't get this part i mean i am not saying one shouldn't perform salat all i wanted to know was your opinion on this because in Quran we're told to perform only 3 salats and Quran tells us each and every thing about salat and how to perform it. http://www.quran-islam.org/main_topics/islam/pillars/al-salat_(P1192).html
Means we can dismiss the Hadith where Prophet refused to punish the man who murdered his maid for blasphemy. Only if jazbaati people understood this.
Quran and Hadith are both part of Islam without Hadeeth you can't follow orders of the Quran. Quran only gives order of Salah but you can't even know what is meant by Salah until you follow Hadeeth. To know more about the links follow the notes I have created on this issue on facebook I am posting links for youThanks for the link yr btw few days back a lot of members said that "but oh Quran doesn't tell us about salat" when i said that Quran doesn't say anywhere to kill the blasphemers (you know the hot debate we both are having with a lot of members these days) so today after reading your thread i decided to search about salaat in Quran and look what i found... http://www.quran-islam.org/faq/where_is_salat_in_quran_(P1377).html what do you think of this? but i still have a question azlan hadiths are sayings of Prophet we can say not all of them are authentic and are right but how we learn about life of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) than? i mean how we learned about Taif incident and so many other things? kind of a noobie question but i want to know this.
I'm not saying that we should reject each and every Hadiths but reject those which don't make any sense and which contradicts Quran and Prophets teachings and looks like you didn't even opened the link in my post. Anyway if you strictly want to follow Hadiths in your personal life and you think that without it you can't follow/understand Quran than do it but don't impose your views on others. My Allah says that Quran has clarification of all the things than i without a second doubt believe him.Quran and Hadith are both part of Islam without Hadeeth you can't follow orders of the Quran. Quran only gives order of Salah but you can't even know what is meant by Salah until you follow Hadeeth. To know more about the links follow the notes I have created on this issue on facebook I am posting links for you
https://www.facebook.com/notes/zarv...swer-those-who-reject-hadith/1030370503716522
https://www.facebook.com/notes/zarv...ect-hadith-and-sunnah-part-1/1030369700383269
https://www.facebook.com/notes/zarv...who-reject-hadith-and-sunnah/1030385260381713
https://www.facebook.com/notes/zarvan-bin-sajid/answering-hadith-rejectors/1030386810381558
sheikh hr ek se pange na lya kr yrhttp://nation.com.pk/blogs/02-Feb-2...-why-can-t-we-stand-up-for-our-own-minorities
I liked what he wrote but this guy blocked me for having an anti bhensa view
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http://nation.com.pk/blogs/02-Feb-2...-why-can-t-we-stand-up-for-our-own-minorities
I liked what he wrote but this guy blocked me for having an anti bhensa view
@django @Moonlight @PaklovesTurkiye @The Sandman @WAJsal
Sorry but where Quran says that How we should offer Salah where Quran says How to fast where Quran says How to perform Hajj where Quran says How to pay Zakat. Where Quran lot of other orders. You are taking the meaning of ayats of Quran without context and when ever you will do it you would end up in trouble. If Quran has explanation of everything there would have been no need of PROPHET. ALLAH not only sent PROPHET but also told Muslims over and over again to follow him. Please read from the links I gave you previously. Also listen to these scholars. Finally no Hadiths don't go against Quran if you are assuming that some Hadith is going against Quran that doesn't mean it's. It's one of the biggest propaganda and lie spread by known fitna of PervaizisI'm not saying that we should reject each and every Hadiths but reject those which don't make any sense and which contradicts Quran and Prophets teachings and looks like you didn't even opened the link in my post. Anyway if you strictly want to follow Hadiths in your personal life and you think that without it you can't follow/understand Quran than do it but don't impose your views on others. My Allah says that Quran has clarification of all the things than i without a second doubt believe him.
"And We have sent down to you the Book as clarification for all things and as guidance and mercy and good tidings for the Muslims." 16:89
"Shall I seek other than God as a source of law, when He has revealed to you this book fully detailed?" 6:114
sheikh hr ek se pange na lya kr yr