Pakistani BAT Commandos Bleeding Indian BSF

[Irfan Baloch]

respected members please show restrain and stay civil.
one side doing it doesn't justify you do that too.

Why India Endures More Casualties than Pakistan?
The 4 BSF soldiers martyred in Chambliyal sector were allegedly gunned down by BAT snipers. The BSF casualties this year along the Jammu and Kashmir border have been the highest. 11 BSF personnel have been martyred while 37 took serious injuries. As much as 320 firing incidents have been reported this year. Of course, India retaliates heavily, but Pakistan media has always blamed Indian BSF for targetting the innocent civilians and indirectly jibed at failing to compete with Pakistan army.

I dont think India suffers more casualties. on both side of the LOC and Kashmiris. Indians always shoot and kill civilians tending their plants or inside their courtyards. they fire at school vans and passenger buses as well to avenge the death of their one or two soldiers.
Indians have also shared the stories of loss and damage to the civilian lives and property from Pakistani shelling and its disheartening.

the military deaths are more or less the same due to cross firing and shelling.

Indian military is following the orders of current Indian sarkar that is ordering it to keep the border hot from the safety and distance of Delhi.

 

[A.A. Khan]

Nice way to promote a r**dian media outlet which I did'nt even know about.
There is no entity called BAT, and this report is farce and baseless

@AyanRay
These indian-based websites that are outside of proper standard of procedures like media for e.g. editorial board have zero or sh*t credibility, hired copywriters or content writers might be regarded as journalists to dumb people like you not to me. An Indian Jawed Naqvi has been writing for Dawn for sometime now,google and read how he prepares his reports or how. Probably will make you little smarter which is difficult.

India in late 2016, started shelling and targeting civilians of Azad Kashmir using artillery fire. They have killed mora than 1100+ Kashmiris incl. women and children by firing directly at homes. They used a weak point of Pakistan who did'nt touch its local population dwelling near the border. Whereas Indians don't trust the locals they have pushed them behind. Indians keep the rest of the international border, working boundary peaceful as its populations are close to the area. Since then Pakistan is just doing what Indians did, hitting the Hindoos dwelling in Jammu near the WB to the upper LoC sectors close to KishenGanga Project, where the engineers had to run when artillery fire entered their premises. Samba district JAmmu constituency belongs to loudspeaker warriors/coward like Jitendra Singh of RSS/BJP. Now they are facing pressure as their constituents are shbowing them the soles of their chappals as their homes are destroyed by shelling. I support these steps as Indians will come to their senses through these steps.

 

[thinkingcap81]

Indians always shoot and kill civilians tending their plants or inside their courtyards. they fire at school vans and passenger buses as well to avenge the death of their one or two soldiers.
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Indian military is following the orders of current Indian sarkar that is ordering it to keep the border hot from the safety and distance of Delhi.

My friend who has connections with the IA says that in order to provide covering fire to terrorists/militants, PA/Rangers fire all over the localized area so that IA/BSF personnel are forced to go inside their bunkers. Then infiltration through fields etc. becomes easier. Secondly firing is sometimes not accurate from both sides because of the arms used and associated human error of judgment. So civilians get injured. At times targeting of civilians may also be deliberate.

I think that when anyone says that IA is the only party which is committing atrocities, it rings hollow.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

My friend who has connections with the IA says that in order to provide covering fire to terrorists/militants, PA/Rangers fire all over the localized area so that IA/BSF personnel are forced to go inside their bunkers. Then infiltration through fields etc. becomes easier. Secondly firing is sometimes not accurate from both sides because of the arms used and associated human error of judgment. So civilians get injured. At times targeting of civilians may also be deliberate.

I think that when anyone says that IA is the only party which is committing atrocities, it rings hollow.

thanks for counter point and I have later on also acknowledged the loss of life and property on Indian side due to Pakistani firing and shelling.
your argument about justifying Indian firing has a merit but not targeted sniper firing on Pakistani people along working boundary and LoC where people are killed just in front of their homes in their courtyards. they are not infiltrating into Indian side by moving about inside their homes.

 

[thinkingcap81]

thanks for counter point and I have later on also acknowledged the loss of life and property on Indian side due to Pakistani firing and shelling.
your argument about justifying Indian firing has a merit but not targeted sniper firing on Pakistani people along working boundary and LoC where people are killed just in front of their homes in their courtyards. they are not infiltrating into Indian side by moving about inside their homes.

Thanks for the reply.

True, killing innocents is not justifiable. And i have said that from our side, at times targeting innocents is deliberate. The way a military operates in civilian areas is at times brutal; armies are not trained for this purpose. How believable are reports that PA/Rangers do not target civilians on our side? PA is no holy cow.

I also believe that PA's obsession with Kashmir is the most important factor in the situation being the way it is. Pakistani intelligence always tries to keep Kashmir boiling and this indirectly harms 'innocent' civilians - an entire generation has seen nothing but the gun, and this situation serves to keep peace at bay. The Indian response has been found to be lacking and faulty with strong arm responses. There seems to be no coherent and effective response from our side.

The way 'Islamic solidarity' manifests itself is a major problem. You cannot say that the West attacks and imposes itself on others is a prime justification for the related issues the world faces.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Thanks for the reply.

True, killing innocents is not justifiable. And i have said that from our side, at times targeting innocents is deliberate. The way a military operates in civilian areas is at times brutal; armies are not trained for this purpose. How believable are reports that PA/Rangers do not target civilians on our side? PA is no holy cow.

I also believe that PA's obsession with Kashmir is the most important factor in the situation being the way it is. Pakistani intelligence always tries to keep Kashmir boiling and this indirectly harms 'innocent' civilians - an entire generation has seen nothing but the gun, and this situation serves to keep peace at bay. The Indian response has been found to be lacking and faulty with strong arm responses. There seems to be no coherent and effective response from our side.

The way 'Islamic solidarity' manifests itself is a major problem. You cannot say that the West attacks and imposes itself on others is a prime justification for the related issues the world faces.

stay blessed brother.
we will find the way which will bring peace. I pray Kashmir becomes reason for peace.

 

[Trango Towers]

BATman is Pakistani and Robin is nowhere to be seen. Wait till he joins the fight then we will really get the joker across the border