Pakistani Achievers - At Home & Abroad

[imama.n]

I wanna to say weldone all of these

 

[faaiq Sheikh]

12 exceptional Pakistani Women in Business and Technology
Never underestimate the power of a woman because someone who after God has the capability to bring a life on Earth definitely has the strength to change destiny. Delicate and compassionate, a woman surely is but that should never be mistaken as weakness or incapability. The first and foremost version of her that is respected and recognized is of a mother, which truly deserves all the appreciation in the world. However they are capable of being diverse too. Initially, the best professions considered for women were teaching or medicine but times have changed.

Women all around the world are playing their part not only in the nurturing of nations but also as the work force needed to uplift the economic position of a country. We must be grateful to them for their sincerity and commitment. Here in our country after the 16 years of education, without further plans for education or careers, it is a must for girls to get married. It is in our opinion a very sacred bond, a bond which provides security, strength and completion to not only the individuals getting married but to the society as a whole. But seeing it as a full stop to both the prospects of further studies and careers is not justified in any way. Pakistani women have certainly walked out of this framework of life and excelled in many fields like journalism, philanthropy, IT world, engineering, politics e.t.c.

They have proved themselves to be both great mothers and well-reputed, significant citizens. Today we would like to highlight the achievements and contribution of Pakistani Women in Business and Technology. Here are those twelve ladies, in no particular order but equally outstanding in their contributions.

1- JEHAN ARA

Focusing on the IT world, let’s bring your attention to Jehan Ara, the mastermind behind PASHA (Pakistan Software Houses Associations). The company’s major objective is the development and protection of software industry in Pakistan. It also collaborates with companies beyond the borders to provide its clients with the best of software products and services. Jehan Ara has not only been active as President of PASHA but also worked for nearly 3 decades in marketing, communications and media in Pakistan, UAE, Hong Kong and the Far East. She is an entrepreneur, speaker, motivator and writer for various Industrial publications. She is working on her project “Women’s Virtual Network” that would help educated women deal with employers and other professional workers, giving them a chance to explore themselves in the world, with rapid IT growth.





2- RABIA GARIB


Simple and a pure workaholic, that’s the lady next on our list, Rabia Garib. She is the Chief Executive of Toffee TV. Toffee TV is a great learning-aid that helps children learn through stories, songs and many fun activities in Urdu. In addition to this she is the co-founder of Rasala Publications, which focuses on IT trade. She has been honored with LadiesFund Trailblazer Award, for being a female role model and high achiever in Pakistan. She believes in strenuous hard work and is of the opinion that persistence is the key to success. She explains that women must not take on a job or start up a business thinking they would become millionaires, rather working every single day and not losing focus is the main thing. She herself works round the clock and is playing her best to make mark on this world and helping in any way she can.

3- SABEEN MAHMOOD

Inspired by her mother’s courage and constant struggle to stand for what is right, Sabeen Mahmud adopted the same qualities. She was the President of TIE (The Indus Entrepreneurs) and now owns T2F, the Second Floor Café. Her approach to life and situation in Pakistan is very different indeed. She is a strong believer of activism. Her café T2F is situated in Karachi. It is a platform that encourages healthy discussions and debate on the current issues of Pakistan. It engages the audience in many cultural activities, bringing writers and poets together. It also organizes art exhibitions, hence providing a wholesome goodness to the people’s mind. Sabeen who once was a part of corporate world, now focuses much more on creating awareness among people and educating them through this venture, T2F café is actually a project of “Peace Niche” (also founded and directed by Sabeen herself, it is a non profit organization that promotes resolving political conflicts and arguments through different cultural engagements. It mostly works on the areas of Art & culture, Science & technology and advocacy)

Some other projects that come under Peace Niche include “Faraar”, “Science ka adda” and so on.



4- SALAINA HAROON

Playing a vital role in the telecom and technology sector is Salaina Haroon. She is the Editor in chief of CIO Pakistan magazine. CIO is the world’s largest business technology leadership magazine. It is printed in many countries around the globe including Pakistan. Also, she is the founder and director of Communique Collective. It is a marketing firm that deals with small and medium enterprises both in Pakistan and abroad. The firm works for building and strategizing technological companies. It also focuses on Public Relations, impact of social media on News companies and bettering the position of Pakistan on an international level. Salina believes in exploring and involvement of a person in different workshops, conferences e.t.c. that helps to realize, understand the on going circumstances and work in accordance to them. She herself was a part of EISHENHOWER Fellowship.



5- SAMINA FAZIL
Next, we put the spotlight on the woman, who had the first garment business in the city of Islamabad, Samina Fazil. She is the owner of Mishas Collection. She started off in 1989 as a small business unit that dealt with children’s garments. Her initial invested amount was only Rs.100, 000 which she had obtained from her family. With a small amount and no prior experience in this male dominant industry, Samina set out to achieve her dream.

She needed skilled tailors, raw materials, a start-up location and so much more. But there was no one to teach her the basics or even give a proper guideline. So, as it happens, time became the teacher. At last in 1991, she opened up her own shop in Main Murree road Rawalpindi. She started marketing her clothes by making brochures, taking part in exhibitions, giving out dresses for television shows and the newspaper fashion shoots. This strategy did the trick and the business boomed. With her utmost hard work and determination today we have in front of us The Mishas Collection and a lady who provides inspiration and guidance to several other women out there. Not to forget she also actively plays the role of the President in Islamabad Women Chamber of Commerce and Industry.



6- NIDA FARID
With the power crises being a major issue in Pakistan, we have smart and sensible lady next on this list Nida Farid. She has a bachelor degree in Aerospace Engineering from MIT. She did her Masters in Mechanical Engineering from ETHZurich, Switzerland. Impressed already? Well hold on there. She is a proficient in aircraft manufacturing, wind energy, power segments and energy conservation. With all her knowledge and enthusiasm, she came back to her country Pakistan and started off with her project “Karachi Energy Conservation Awareness-Small Tricks for Large Savings”

In her opinion by educating and creating awareness in the upper class of Karachi, 70% of the power crisis could be resolved. She explains that using lesser energy by turning off lights and fans is one thing, but buying the right appliance matters just the same. It could be by the right choice of appliance that we save more energy. Power crisis she believes is an issue that needs to be dealt immediately and with all the sincerity, since energy issue could lead to closing down of industries hence affecting the employment of several people. This doesn’t end here. It’s like a chain reaction which would bring about first poverty, illiteracy and many other social issues as well. Her efforts are truly remarkable and deserve appreciation!

7- ROSHANEH ZAFAR


Roshaneh Zafar is the managing director of “Kashf foundation”. This foundation educates and funds the women working in villages, in order to better their economic condition. She herself has been educated from Yale University and Wharton School of Business, University of Pennsylvania. She started off Kashf foundation after leaving her job post at World Bank. Kashf foundation is a national program that spread from KPK, Sindh and now to Balochistan. This foundation provides value driven solution to families of the underprivileged areas and its main concentration lays micro-financing female led small businesses and start-ups. The company stands by its notable services and the credit goes to none other than, Roshaneh Zafar, who believes in the capacity of women and giving them the opportunity to grow by all means.



8- SHEBA NAJMI
This great lady started off simple as a news anchor and reporter for Indus Television. She was the host of “Press Review”. The show concentrated on current affairs and their discussion with several political figures, ambassadors and analysts. She got her BS and MS degree from Stanford University in Symbolic Systems, where she studied the interaction between humans and computers. She was a Fellow at “Code for America” and became part of several notable projects like “Honolulu Answers” and “Social Media handbook for Cities”. She was also the lead designer for seven years for Yahoo Mail. This talented woman is the founder of “Tech for Change” which is a non profit organization, which focuses on bringing entrepreneurs, developers and designers together in order to help and eliminate most of Pakistan’s civic problems. In addition to this she in her own words is “primarily interested in leading UX or Product, ideally at mission-focused social enterprises that are seriously out to transform the world.”

9- SALMA JAFRI


A mom and a business woman, she’s the lady taking care of both worlds. However, she is of the opinion that being a mother is definitely harder of the two jobs but mostly it’s the handling of both of these that’s the bigger challenge. After her MBA she like all other ambitious graduates headed out to look for a job. She had her first interview with the CEO of a small multi national company, who happened to know her grandfather as well. This sounds like a job already in the pocket doesn’t it? Well here’s the truth she never got it. The CEO being well aware of her grandfather knew that “girls of their family got married soon to become housewives”. That was the moment she realized she was not going to get hired because she was a woman. But soon after this she got a job at the Pakistan arm of Deloitte & Touche. Today she stands in front of the world as a successful “content marketer”, the term she uses for herself. She is the founder and CEO of WordPL.net, which basically, focuses on marketing the content any young entrepreneur, wants to put up through social media. There areas of expertise are blog and content writing, social media marketing and planning, online videos and marketing consultation.



10- KALSOOM LAKHANI


Kalsoom Lakhani is the CEO of i2i (invest2innovate). The company not only recognizes the budding entrepreneurs in Pakistan, but also trains them through a four month program and finally connects them to investors. It encourages and motivates entrepreneurs and helps them stabilize. The company started its work in Pakistan in 2011 and is determined to expand to other countries as well. Before i2i, Kalsoom has also worked as a managing director in Social Vision. She got Bachelor degree from University of Virginia in Foreign Affairs and Middle East Events, she also holds Masters Degree from George Washington University’s Elliott School of International Affairs in International Affairs/Conflict Resolution. Her achievements also include being the co-ambassador of SandBox, member of World Economic Forum’s Global Shapers. She is the founder of CHUP (Changing Up Pakistan) which brings forth and creates awareness on the issues of Pakistan.

11- MARIA UMAR

Another talented name comes down in this list of entrepreneurs, Maria Umar, the founder of “The Women’s Digital League”. She was a school teacher. After being refused maternity leave, she quit her job. Later she started writing for another lady, who she had found through the well known job portal “Rozee.pk”. One thing led to another and she found her employers oDesk profile. She then realized that she too could directly contact clients and help herself out better. These became the origins of a humble content creating business. She set up her own oDesk account, gave away a few jobs of writing starting from her own family. Gradually it became what we call “The Women’s Digital League”. This company gives a chance to all the educated young girls to get a job in the digital world. The key is the positive utilization of social media that helps writers connect with the clients across the globe. The company has been expanded to “The Digital League”, a platform for Pakistan’s digital workforce, which provides digital solutions to individuals and corporate clients. She truly believes in the empowerment of women and has continually played her part to show her conviction.

12- SABA GUL

There are few of us, who after a worthy degree in hand bother to think about someone other than themselves. Here, we’d like to mention someone whose education did not solely benefit her but also the under-privileged. Saba Gul did bachelors and masters from MIT. She studied Computer Sciences and Economics. She is a successful entrepreneur that runs a non profit organization Popinjay (previously named BLISS), which helps girls, and their families of Pakistan, living below the poverty line to get education. They are taught languages English and Urdu, Mathematics and lessons on skills and entrepreneurship. These girls are trained to design and create handbags. These handbags become a source of income and pay for the tuitions for at least 4 or 6 months. She has been a part of other projects too. She was a MIT Public Service Fellow in Sri Lanka, where she worked on economical solar lighting that helped out tsunami refugees. She is definitely the kind working for the greater good of humanity.

The extensive list above is the living proof of the fact that women are indeed capable of working and excelling beyond all confinements and expectations. Mentioned above are just 12 of the amazing women in the world of business and technology, when there are so many more that ought to be discussed and praised for their contributions. A hearty round of applause from our side to all these great Pakistani women, they have made us proud indeed!

 

[Aqsa Mateen]

no wonder Pakistan women are best
!

 

[Aqsa Mateen]

Member of International Advisory Board of The Blackstone Group LP. He has been a Non-Executive Director of Millennium & Copthorne Hotels plc since June 16, 2009.

 

[ghazi52]

How this Pakistani built a billion-dollar startup

Careem’s Mudassir Sheikha explains why growth needs to be an obsession for any motivated founder. PHOTO: CAREEM

Mudassir Sheikha is the CEO and co-founder of ride-hailing app Careem, one of the hottest startups on the Asian continent.

In December, it raised US$350 million from superstar investors such as Rakuten and Abraaj Capital, making it the newest unicorn in the transportation space.

It’s been quite a journey for Mudassir and his Dubai-headquartered company since starting up less than five years ago. Careem is now operational in 50 cities across 11 countries. It counts 180,000 registered drivers, which it refers to as “captains,” and claims to have served over 8 million customers.

Mudassir and team have hustled their way to regional dominance, competing with Uber with a mere fraction of the resources that the San Francisco-headquartered behemoth has at its disposal.

So how exactly should entrepreneurs take their idea from zero to one? What’s the billion-dollar mindset? How do you build companies to last?

This Pakistani helped raise $350 million to slaughter Uber

Mudassir addressed these queries and more during a keynote presentation yesterday atMomentum in Karachi, Pakistan.

He identified four main factors which he believes were crucial in propelling Careem from a mere idea to where it is today.

Think big

“You have to think big from day one,” said Mudassir. “Sure you can open a retail store, but it’s going to be difficult to make it into a large business – a billion-dollar business. The first thing you have to target is a big problem and a big opportunity.”

The idea behind Careem wasn’t simply to replicate what other startups were doing in the West. He and his co-founder, Magnus Olsson, were both former management consultants for McKinsey. The duo were stationed in Dubai but frequently traveled across the Middle East and Pakistan.

As consultants, they had to constantly deal with the abhorrent public transport options in their markets. That was a huge pain – taxi drivers would frequently rip them off and they didn’t feel safe traveling in those rickety cars.

On-demand services were unheard of in the region at that time. So both Mudassir and Magnus quit their jobs, invested a lot of their own capital, and hunkered down for the long journey ahead.

“We wanted to seize the opportunity because it was an unexplored area and we felt the potential to scale was there,” said Mudassir to the audience.

Think big

The billion-dollar CEO is a firm believer in treating your startup like a baby and nurturing it the same way a loving parent would.

He explained it’s essential to instill the right values in your organization – to make sure culture seeps down from the top and everyone on the team is cognizant of the ideals they should aspire towards.

“If you teach your kids not to lie and make sure they adhere to it, then they’ll eventually learn and carry that with them forever. But if you don’t do that, and don’t have a close relationship with them, then they’ll grow up with indifferent values,” he said.

“Organizations are similar, they have values and aspirations as well. The companies that have been around for hundreds of years have these values instilled in their DNA. Our mindset, from day one, was to make something to last.”

As a corollary, the idea to start a business shouldn’t be predicated on an exit strategy. “It’s not the right mindset you should go into a startup with,” added Mudassir.

Mudassir on stage at Momentum. Photo credit: Osman Husain

If an entrepreneur is truly committed to solving problems and reducing inefficiencies then they’ll carry on with that, come what may. And to build lasting institutions, ones that will outlive them as well as their future generations, founders need to treat the early years with the utmost of care.

“There’s nothing wrong with an exit, but it shouldn’t be your overwhelming priority,” he stated.

To further explain his point about culture and setting examples, Mudassir said he frequently takes red-eye flights and inconvenient connections just to save money.

“I’m happy even if I save 200 dirhams” – that US$55 – “each time,” he laughed.

“Sure people might say Careem has the cash now but I don’t want anyone in the company to think I’m being extravagant or living a flashy lifestyle. If you won’t demonstrate and lead by example, then your teammates won’t either.”

Growth needs curation

“You can’t just expect to launch a product and expect that it’ll take off automatically,” asserted Mudassir. “It’s a lot of hard work, curation, measurement, and feedback.”

The former consultant explained that at Careem they’re obsessed with data and growth. Each city – all 50 of them – is monitored every 15 minutes. An analyst can crunch the numbers and tell you whether the growth in those 15 minutes was more or less than the previous day, or even the same time last week.

If numbers are going down then there’s someone from HQ on the phone with local teams on the ground, to figure out how to improve, and whether there’s an issue of product-market fit, weather conditions, or something else.

“You cannot improve anything that you cannot measure. That’s why growth and measurement are deep deep in our DNA,” he said.

Careem valued at $1b on Saudi Telecom deal

“And the best part about growth is that it compounds. If you give yourself a target of growing 25 percent month on month, then you’ll grow 10x each year. By the third 10x, we were sitting at a 100 million valuation. You can too,” he told the audience.

Your team is the sharpest weapon

Mudassir and Magnus didn’t have much money to throw around in the early days grinding in the insane heat of Dubai.

That was a problem – they wanted to hire savvy, technical, and qualified employees to grow quickly but the lack of cash meant that they couldn’t even match existing market salaries.

Mudassir admitted to having sleepless nights in those days.

“We placed a lot of emphasis on getting the right people. You can have an amazing idea but if you don’t have the right talent to execute then your plans are utterly useless. We were so cash-strapped early on that we could only offer half of what people were used to,” he said.

But there was a surprising benefit to this quandary. Careem’s early hires ticked all the right boxes in terms of their job capabilities, and they also bought into the vision of what Mudassir was trying to build.

“That’s why we became who we are today – you need to get capable people but they also need to enliven the culture of the workplace,” he added.

 

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SBP to issue Rs 50 commemorative coin in March to honour Edhi

Karachi: State Bank of Pakistan will issue commemorative 50-rupee coin in memory of Abdul Sattar Edhi in March 2017 as a small token of appreciation for his selfless services for the country.

This was announced by Governor, State Bank of Pakistan, Ashraf Mahmood Wathra while inaugurating an exhibition of pencil sketches of Abdul Sattar Edhi by Jimmy Engineer at State Bank Museum & Art Gallery on Monday. Faisal Edhi and Jimmy Engineer were also present on the occasion.

The work on the design of this commemorative coin in memory of the late Abdul Sattar Edhi was already in progress after Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif had accorded its approval in a cabinet meeting held on July 15, 2016. Addressing the ceremony the Governor also requested CEOs of banks to dedicate some of their CSR activities to promote art and heritage in the country.

Jimmy Engineer through his pencil sketches of Abdul Sattar Edhi - gifted to the State Bank Museum & Art Gallery - has portrayed the pain and sympathy Edhi felt for the poor and those in need. These sketches also reflected the love for and dedication to the downtrodden of society. The sketches portray the hardships Edhi faced in carrying out his mission of humanitarianism. Speaking on the occasion, Governor State Bank acknowledged the services of this great philanthropist, and human right activist. The Governor also lauded the dedication of Jimmy Engineer for making sketches of the great philanthropist.

Jimmy Engineer also spoke on the occasion said he received great inspiration from the services of Edhi rendered to mankind and said Edhi is a legend for the whole world. He said he had been drawing sketches of the late Mr. Edhi as no person in any other country could equal the services rendered to humanity.

"Whenever I visited foreign countries people talked about Pakistan negatively but when I asked them do you have any person like Abdul Sattar Edhi they had no answer," he claimed. Jimmy thanked the State Bank Governor for placing these sketches at SBP Museum & Art Gallery.

Faisal Edhi also spoke on the occasion and gave thanks on behalf of the family of Edhi Sahib and Edhi Foundation for holding the ceremony in memory of Edhi himself. He felt great satisfaction knowing that the services of late Edhi will be remembered through the artwork of Jimmy Engineer.

 

[faaiq Sheikh]

Women Empowerment GO Dr. Shabia Raza

 

[ghazi52]

Against all odds: Pakistan-born woman a leading engineer at NASA

The story of a Pakistani born woman, who survived the war in the Gulf, lived as a refugee in the desert and then went on to become a part of NASA is definitely heart-warming.

Hibah Rahmani is a rocket engineer at NASA and her tale serves as a role model to girls all over the world, that no matter how bleak things appear at times, they have it within themselves to defy all odds and break stereotypes.

Background
Rahmani was born in Pakistan. Her family moved to Kuwait when she was barely a month old. She spent a peaceful childhood in the Arabian Gulf, until war broke out between Iraq and Kuwait in the early 90s.

“My fondest memory growing up is taking walks with my family at night, either in the desert or on the sidewalk by the Arabian (Persian) Gulf, looking up at the sky to admire the moon and stars, and thinking about astronauts such as Neil Armstrong who have stepped on the moon,” she said. “It was around this time I developed a passion for science, space and astronomy.”

However, those memories came to an end when Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990 and she had to flee with her family to no man’s land near the Iraq-Jordan border. They reached at night and the camp was out of tents. Her family had to spend the nights under an open sky in the desert.

While that time was characterised by misery and hardships for her and her family, it was also the start of something pure – her newfound love for stars.

“Even though this was a tough time for us, one of the things I remember from that night was having a nice view of the sky with the golden moon and stars, while trying to sleep on the cold desert sand. It reminded me of my goals and dreams.”

After a brief stay in Jordan, she traveled with her mother and sister to Pakistan. Her father was in the US at the time of the invasion but the family got reunited back in Pakistan. This incident served as the catalyst for her newfound dream, and she was determined to make it to where she can take her study of stars further – NASA.

Educational Background
The US-led coalition brought an end to the Gulf War and a ceasefire was signed in February 1991. Rahmani moved back to Kuwait with her family and decided to become an engineer.

After completing high school in Kuwait, she moved to the US in 1997 and completed her bachelor’s in computer engineering at the University of Central Florida (UCF). After graduating in 2000, she started working for Boeing as a systems engineer for the International Space Station (ISS).

“I was involved with integrated testing of the ISS components and sometimes astronauts would stop by to either view or participate in the testing,” Rahmani said.

“It is during this time that I developed a strong desire to become an astronaut and started taking steps toward that goal.”

This led her to complete a more advanced degree, this time a masters in electrical and computer engineering from Georgia Tech between 2002 and 2005.

Career in NASA
In 2008, Rahmani accepted her current position at NASA’s Engineering and Technology Directorate at Kennedy.

“I support NASA’s Launch Services Program, working on expendable launch vehicles such as the Pegasus XL and Falcon 9,” she said.

“I provide technical expertise, follow launch vehicle testing, perform data reviews and provide technical assessments of engineering issues.”

Pegasus is the Orbital Science Corp’s rocket used for launching payloads while the Falcon 9 is a SpaceX launch vehicle used to boost the Dragon spacecraft to the space station for resupply missions.

Hibah says “The happiest and most exciting moment of my job is to watch a rocket take off from the launch pad and go into space.”

Her strong passion for her work is evident from her voluntary public affairs activities to inspire others. She says “I love to inspire others. I speak to students at local schools about my career and have volunteered as a science fair judge.”

She also provides real-time updates to NASA's LSP Twitter and Facebook accounts during launch countdowns when she is not providing engineering support to the mission staff. \

Her Message
“I have the privilege of working with an amazing team, while doing what I love,” she says. Her key to success is that she sets some very high goals.

“The experiences of my life have taught me to always dream big and to never give up, because you can achieve whatever you want if you work hard.”

She asks the youth, especially girls, to “stay focused and dream big.” That is the philosophy she followed ever since she fell in love with the stars in a desolate Jordanian desert.

 

[Mevechan]

So awesome to see Sabeen and Jehan Ara in this list, awesome women.

 

[ali_raza]

why not shahid khan on the list

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

We have had some very fine economists/bankers working in international institutions. Shuokat Aziz, Moeenuddin Ahmad Qureshi, Tareen, and many others were all internationally recognized but yielded nothing for Pakistan. Mr. Mahbub ul Haq was an exception though.

Mahbub ul Haq basically coined the Human Development Index (HDI) which is one of the key economic indicators used by every single development institution that matters.

Nadeem ul Haq is another notable economist. A bit opinionated and has strong views, but certainly well versed on economic affairs and well known amongst the whole IMF fraternity. He's actually a family friend, known him since I was young. He was IMF country director in Cairo Egypt and worked for the Planning Commision when he left the Fund.

We have had some very fine economists/bankers working in international institutions. Shuokat Aziz, Moeenuddin Ahmad Qureshi, Tareen, and many others were all internationally recognized but yielded nothing for Pakistan. Mr. Mahbub ul Haq was an exception though.

you can also add Masood Ahmed to the list

https://www.imf.org/en/News/Article...d-Central-Asia-Department-to-Retire-from-Fund

also Mahmood Ayub (World Bank --several country director roles & UNDP --- country director and former UN Rep in Ankara, Turkiye)....currently doing a lot of work writing about Pakistan's institutional voids and how to correct them, as well as on privatization efforts and focusing on case studies. Ayub hails from FATA region by the way.

 

[abubakr143]

Ma Sha Allah... Alhamdulillah .
ALLAH may bless Pakistan and Pakistani's More and more...

 

[Chak Bamu]

I visited this thread after more than 2 years and I am very much pleased to see that it is still ticking. Apart from initial interference from across the border and a lone negative post (#16), all the posts have been very supportive and contributory. Thanks guys for keeping this thread alive.

 

[ali_raza]

I visited this thread after more than 2 years and I am very much pleased to see that it is still ticking. Apart from initial interference from across the border and a lone negative post (#16), all the posts have been very supportive and contributory. Thanks guys for keeping this thread alive.

should have been 1000 pages

 

[Chak Bamu]

should have been 1000 pages

I am just happy that the thread is not totally dead. Please contribute.