Pakistan will get New Air Defence system within this Year - CAS on ARY News .

[doorstar]

what does CAATSA affect specifically in the Pak-US context? W ill it lead to stoppage of deliveries of additional F-16s that pakistan isn't buying? or the AH-1Zs that the US isn't delivering? or the engines for the T-129s that the US isn't signing off on? or the OHP Frigate re-armament that the US blocked?

gas turbines for ships?
the trade surplus?
doing a Cambodia on Pakistan?

 

[khanasifm]

There are better options available, depending on what PA/PAF priorities are:

Long Range SAMs:

	S-350	Aster-30	FD-2000 (Export HQ-9)
Missile Range	120 km	100-120 km	125 km
Loadout	12 missiles/TEL	8 missiles/TEL	4 missiles/TEL
Guidance	Active Radar Seeker	Active Radar Seeker	SARH Seeker
Control	TVC Motor + Lateral Thrusters	TVC Motor + Lateral Thrusters	TVC Motor
Peak Maneuvrability	60 G	60 G	Unknown (but likely to be ~20g)

S-350 Strengths:
- It has 12 missiles on each launcher
- Sanction proof
- potential integration with a whole range of advanced, low-frequency russian radar systems like the RLM-LE aka Nebo-UM (VHF/UHF band, 600 km range), the RLM-DE aka GAMMA-DE (L-band, 600 km range) and RLM-S aka GAMMA-S radars

FD-2000 Strengths:
- it can be potentially upgraded with longer range missiles
- potential integration with a variety of chinese radars

Medium Range Options:
There are a lot of medium range options available:
1) Camm-ER/Land Ceptor (40+ km range)
2) Umkhonto-ER-IR (30km) and Umkhonto-R (60km)
3) HQ-16C (70 km)
4) Hisar- O+

But the best option would be to wait for the Turkish SIPER which is expected to debut in 2023 with a multi-missile configuration, and a maximum range of 150+ km.

Fs-2000 is 125miles or 200 km later version are better and with dual seekers and active plus more range but range is less important vs pk, eccm and quality is

 

[khanasifm]

 

[khanasifm]

YJ-18 anti-ship cruise missiles with a strike range of 340 miles, CJ-10 land-attack cruise missiles (range 932 miles) and HHQ-9 surface-to-air missiles which can engage aircraft up to 186 miles away.

That’s is 300km range 4 hq9

Patrol By Chinese Carrier Reveals Beijing’s Modern Surface Fleet

In the 2010s China finally developed surface combatants combining stealthy hulls, flexible vertical launch cells to carry a variety of powerful missiles, long-range radars and networked combat systems. Chinese shipbuilders churned out these designs at an astonishing pace.

www.forbes.com

 

[AZADPAKISTAN2009]

Could be Turkish SAM Short-Medium range

I am big fan of the Both Short/Medium Range options Turkey has
Would be great , system to replace some manual air guns

 

[khanasifm]

?

China puts upgraded HQ-9 missile system to extreme test

A PLA red vs blue team drill allowed the testing of a newly commissioned missile system, including electromagnetic interference to challenge the missile type.

www.scmp.com

 

[khanasifm]

The HQ-9B, HQ-19 [THAAD counterpart], HQ-26 [SM-3 counterpart] and HQ-29 [PAC-3 counterpart] are designed primarily for Anti Ballistic Missile capabilities.

HQ-19 Anti-Ballistic Missile Interceptor

www.globalsecurity.org

 

[Tipu7]

Plans change with time and options.

 

[farooqbhai007]

Plans change with time and options.

Yes TPS77 never came . It was pretty obvious , so now which one are we getting and any idea what those low level radars were.
TPS43 & LAADS also need a replacement now ,

 

[Tipu7]

Don't know about radars. But discussions are still underway for an air defense system meant to full fill Air Force demands.

Yes TPS77 never came . It was pretty obvious , so now which one are we getting and any idea what those low level radars were.
TPS43 & LAADS also need a replacement now ,

 

[farooqbhai007]

SAMP/T NG , improved version of SAM marketed with two new Radar options and a improved command module and 150km interception range.
The THALES Arabel Multifunction radar with SAMPT is no longer offered , instead the customers now have option between either Italian or french radar package and the following two radars are offered >

Italian Leonardo Kronos Grand MFR ( 300km )

French THALES Ground Fire MFR ( 400km )

 

[mingle]

View attachment 793039

SAMP/T NG , improved version of SAM marketed with two new Radar options and a improved command module and 150km interception range.
The THALES Arabel Multifunction radar with SAMPT is no longer offered , instead the customers now have option between either Italian or french radar systems and the following two radars are offered >
View attachment 793043
Italian Leonardo Kronos Grand MFR ( 300km )
View attachment 793047
French THALES Ground Fire MFR ( 400km )

Italian version will work since SAPDA already with PAF

 

[iLION12345_1]

View attachment 793039

SAMP/T NG , improved version of SAM marketed with two new Radar options and a improved command module and 150km interception range.
The THALES Arabel Multifunction radar with SAMPT is no longer offered , instead the customers now have option between either Italian or french radar package and the following two radars are offered >
View attachment 793043
Italian Leonardo Kronos Grand MFR ( 300km )
View attachment 793047
French THALES Ground Fire MFR ( 400km )

A very realistic option for PAF. I was expecting Italy to offer something sooner or later hence always thought PAF would have an option for a western system, hopefully we see it soon.