Pakistan vs India (2017) A hypothetical war scenario

[Morpheus]

The video also ignores the fact, other countries will not join in. Its not like China will just sit quietly while invading forces destroy their investment. Also it not only about numbers of planes/tank/missile/ etc. there are other factors involved as well, like training our pilots received, experience of our armed forces, etc. This isn't a dungeon and dragons game, its real life war.

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

In the event of a nuclear exchange over Kashmir, the most artificial state that is India would disintegrate with the the Northeast states breaking off first , then the rest would follow PERIOD, the Ganga would become a dsytopian wasteland full of mutant Gangadeshis, no question about it.
@The Sandman @Hell hound @Zibago @Dawood Ibrahim

Brother 1st of all they don't have the balls to do it they're only men for their Cows especially Al Cowda group

Go cry

EID is coming and you will be crying when your mother's are getting slaughter

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[Chhatrapati]

EID is coming and you will be crying when your mother's are getting slaughter

@waz
My mother is fine. Stop abusing mister.

 

[django]

Brother 1st of all they don't have the balls to do it they're only men for their Cows especially Al Cowda group

Agreed bro ,all they are good for is bullying some poor peasant for the mere suspicion of eating beef, they are getting pulverised as we speak on LOC.Kudos

 

[YeBeWarned]

I do Agree with some of his Assessment , If the War last more than 15 days Pakistan will face breach in their lines and lose much of it territory , but there are some Points which i disagree based on Facts ..

1- Pakistan most numerous modern Fighter is F-16 , not JF-17 ..
2- Al-Khalid was designated Mediocre while T-90 is designated Capable , based on facts and on paper Ak and Ak-1 is both better than T-90 in almost every aspect , He didn't even mentioned AK1 .
3- Pakistan has dozens of Babur and Ra'ad ? those CM even in limited numbers can take out chuck on Air bases and Command and control centers . but in Video they showed like CM's are some obsolete tech and has not much effect on real battle .
4-Pakistan Surveillance and AWAC's based on our land mass are more than enough , every Indian plane can easily be detected and tracked , while IA has a much larger land to do surveillance.
5- In video he has mentioned how IAF will get Air superiority over Pakistani air space, I have my doubts on that, based on the conflict which will not last more than 10+/- days , and Past experience IAF was mostly saving their own Air space rather than even trying to gain A/S over Pakistan .
6- based on IAF getting A/S he claimed that Pakistan Navy will get some help from its Air force which will be taken care of by the Indian Naval Air Arm, but he failed to see the basic logic here that if Pakistan has a modern Coast line Defense system than why on earth we will go out from our safe zones , when we can hold back on defensive positions and let Indian ships come close to our shores .
7-In his other Videos, where he talk about Scenarios in Europe he bring how the countries will be using Civilians as conscripts to increase their numbers but he failed to mentioned around 2 Million Armed Tribals which can and most likely be used in case of war as second line of defense , and make no mistake we have done it in past .. ( 1947 ) ( 1965 )
8-He is wrong about HQ-16 batteries numbers , we don't have 3 .. we have 8-9 Operational batteries , 3 was the initial order followed by 5-6 more last year .
9- Failed to Mentioned Armed drones which Pakistan has IA doesn't .
10-None of IA subs are equipped with AIP, while we have 3 already and soon start getting more Armed with CM and AIP's .
11-It will be logistical Nightmare for IA forces to bring their entire army to the Pakistani border to push into Pakistan .Last time they bring half a million troops in stand-off ends up losing 1500+ of their own soldiers by accidents.
12-Pakistani Armored Formations in Thar Desert will not be left alone with a proper air cover , there is a reason we bought FM-90's .. ?
13-Pakistan can mobilize their Forces much faster than IA, to organize a proper welcome Party for any Indian troops manage to enter PAKISTAN .
14-Indian ABM shield is over rated, and with CM and MIRV these limited tech will be of no use, Also Pakistan and India are not hundreds of km apart but instead we are right next to each other, so it will be quite impossible for ABM shield to intercepts modern Missiles, OF course he failed to mentioned the MIRV BM of Pakistan .
15- Last but not the least , Pakistan's shaheen III ( 2750 KM ) cover Indians far reach Island man, who told you that Indian south east ares will remain safe in case of Full Nuclear Exchange ?

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[CriticalThought]

1.6 million people will be defending Pakistan. and add reserves make it 2 million.

the boundary at loc is impossible to overrun as those high mountains support defensive forces.

Punjab is defended by most of our forces and water canal system along with anti tank weapons will be the biggest killer of any invading forces.
same goes for sindh where anti tank systems will destroy invaders in open. those who don't agree refer to Isis war in Mosul and see for yourself what happened to Iraqi armour.

Pakistan air force is not weak either. air defense is strong enough to support our slightly outnumbered air forces.it is all about strategy.
first generation jf 17 block 1 defeated f 16 block 52 many times in exercises. its about pilots skills not machines.

naval defense of Pakistan is slightly weak but could be made stronger by inducting more anti ship coastal missiles. our assets are our submarines. we got enough submarines to defend our small coast.

the thing needed to be understand is that Pakistan in defensive is more strong than any other country as we have very very large defense capabilities as compare to the land we are defending.
India on the other hand is a big country with very very small defense as compared to its area and coast it will be defending in case of any war.

Sir, the video has made factual errors.

1. It considers Pakistan having 'limited precision cruise missile' capability. We've now had cruise missiles for many years, producing them domestically, and improving them continuously. They shall become the bane of existence for any Indian radars/AD/air bases in a radius of 700 km, Insha Allah. This aspect has been completely downplayed in the video.

2. "All Pakistani bases can be attacked by India, but only some of India's bases can be attacked by Pakistan". In addition to our cruise missiles, our ballistic missiles can reach all the way to Nicobar/Andaman and beyond. This is another glaring mistake.

3. It lists only 3 batteries of LY-80. This is completely wrong as well. Indian air attacks will be met by a force to be reckoned with Insha Allah.

4. The guy being a Russian, is bound to consdier SU-30, Mig-29K and Mig-29 upgraded as being 'capable', whereas Thunder is 'mediocre'. I don't know which block of Thunder he has considered, but he seems to be completely incognizant of its true capability.

5. He completely discounts the very successful use of MANPADS against Indian planes that we have done in Kargil. Given the very large numbers in use by Pak Army, Indian planes will be limited to very high altitudes. This, combined with things like smoke cover, decoys etc. means the attrition of Pak Army wouldn't be as high as claimed in the video.

6. "South East Indian cities are too far away for most or all of Pakistani missiles". The guy has obviously not heard about Shaheed-3 and Ababeel.

 

[Reichsmarschall]

My My...the Deep Psychosis Continues

Best Dichotomy Observations :-
1) IAF suffers from Maintenance issues but PAF is perfect 100% Serviceability
2) Indian Navy Subs are Tanks, Pak Navy 70s Agosta are Sharks
2a) Zulfiqar Class Corvette are called Frigates !!! with no AshM Capability
3) India will not use 70% of Weaponry as it has to Defend Against China
4) Indian Tanks cant see, People Forget Indian Army as Over 1300 T90S/M variants pitched against T59/69
5) J7, M3/5 are Rockstars, Mig21Bison which has avionics comparable to F16 Block 50 are duds
6) Ahhh Mig 29upg,MIG29K, M2K are Peanuts
7) Best of All Pakistanis eat Meat and Indian Eat Daal also --IAF will switch off BVR Radars for WVR Fights as Border distance is 20km!!

 

[Photon]

In the event of a nuclear exchange over Kashmir, the most artificial state that is India would disintegrate with the the Northeast states breaking off first , then the rest would follow PERIOD, the Ganga would become a dsytopian wasteland full of mutant Gangadeshis, no question about it.
@The Sandman @Hell hound @Zibago @Dawood Ibrahim

Then it is too bad, since no Pakistani would be alive to see that happen.

 

[django]

This video has clearly not been researched very well and he is ignorant of the effect of the nuclear reaction, as if Gangdwellers will have an effective command and control once we unleash temps that exceed those at the centre of a star over their tiny heads, their entire govt would collapse when we strike Delhi, Mubia...CalKutta etc, their bogus artificial nation which has no common creed, ethnicity, language, culture would all fall apart like a rotten door that has been kicked in, and I am not even going to go the the next gen of scavenging mutants lol

Then it is too bad, since no Pakistani would be alive to see that happen.

Your dud nukes probably would not even detonate heheheeee..... This is the scenario of a very limited exchange , a full on exchange would be the end of this British created abomination which is erroneously known as India for it has very, very little to do with the Indus but everything with the filth ridden Ganga.
gangadesh mata ki jai heheheheheee

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

It's over 60% percent and we are keeping it on tabs. The serviceability problem is old news. In a war like scenario, the serviceability will be greatly improved to meet the demands.

Wrong, the night vision goggles are being procured. In a war like scenario, within two or three weeks the equipment will be in place.

That's laughable . Diesel subs are not supposed to stay under forever. They can take turns, as Indian navy has 15 subs. We don't need to deploy all of them.
Also, we have a SSBN and SSN.

That is another wrong statement. Almost all navies, air force and Army acts as independant unit.
India only lack a joint Chief of staff. Although there was some lack of coordination in the past that has been improved nowadays.
http://www.firstpost.com/india/indi...ation-among-three-military-wings-3404356.html

Of course numbers don't win war. Strategy does. And we are improving that with Joint exercises with some large navies like US, Japan and at times Russia.

And we have quite a history in war like scenarios.

So, I would say Indian forces has some advantages over Pakistan.
Provided both of them don't nuke each other to oblivion.

Really, so what happened after mumbai 2008 and uri 2016. That too when india is at least 7x bigger than us and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege?.........

And why was india so powerless to stop a Muslim minority from conquering india and creating a nation from conquered indian territory with NO hope of EVER getting that conquered indian back?..............

 

[django]

6. "South East Indian cities are too far away for most or all of Pakistani missiles". The guy has obviously not heard about Shaheed-3 and Ababeel.

EXACTLY

 

[Dawood Ibrahim]

Then it is too bad, since no Pakistani would be alive to see that happen.

Inshallah we will be alive and we will send Cows and change your country name from Hindustan to Cowistan

when we strike Delhi, Mubia...CalKutta etc,

especially calkutta

 

[django]

especially calkutta

Damn where is my hound

 

[Photon]

This video has clearly not been researched very well and he is ignorant of the effect of the nuclear reaction, as if Gangdwellers will have an effective command and control once we unleash temps the exceed those at the centre of a star over their tiny heads, their entire govt would collapse when we strike Delhi, Mubia...CalKutta etc, their bogus artificial nation which has no common creed, ethnicity, language, culture would all fall apart like a rotten door that has been kicked in, and I am not even going to go the the next gen of scavenging mutants lol


Your dud nukes probably would not even detonate heheheeee..... This is the scenario of a very limited exchange , a full on exchange would be the end of this British created abomination which is erroneously known as India for it has very, very little to do with the Indus but everything with the filth ridden Ganga.
gangadesh mata ki jai heheheheheee

If aunty had balls, she would be called uncle. So First grow a pair and take Kashmir, all this internet machoism in real life you are just this.

Inshallah we will be alive and we will send Cows and change your country name from Hindustan to Cowistan







especially calkutta

Okay, internet tough guy!

 

[ito]

I think although the war can be immensely damaging for both countries, however, India gaining territory is a consolation price.

The biggest disadvantage for Pakistan is that 90% of Pakistan population resides on the other side of border and many of their major cities are with 100 KM of the border. India will use that disadvantage to its advantage.