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Pakistan ‘very concerned’ at India’s military modernisation
  • Prasun Sonwalkar, Hindustan Times, London
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  • Updated: Feb 09, 2016 19:57 IST
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File photo of Indian Navy’s aircraft carrier, INS Vikramaditya. Pakistan was particularly concerned with India acquiring advanced weapons systems. (AFP Photo)
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Pakistan’s military establishment is said to be “very concerned” about the conventional military modernisation programme of the Narendra Modi government, and “frustrated” that no “deal” had been struck with India since the NDA came to power.

As the International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS) published its annual “Military Balance 2016” report on Tuesday, Ben Barry, a senior expert who works with the military-strategic communities in India and Pakistan, said there was “great optimism” in Islamabad when Modi came to power.

“In the government and security community in Pakistan there was great optimism when Modi came to power, that he would be able to engage Pakistan and maybe strike a deal (normalisation of relations, reduction of tension over security),” Barry told HT.

“But I think there is some frustration in Islamabad that they haven’t been able to achieve that. We have contacts with the Pakistani military. I think they are very concerned about India’s conventional military modernisation.”

Barry, a former brigadier in the British army, said Pakistan was particularly concerned with India acquiring advanced weapons systems like Apache helicopters, C-130 Hercules aircraft and T-90 tanks. The India-US nuclear deal too remained a matter of concern in Islamabad.

According to the IISS expert, “We should take confidence that there hasn’t been a repetition of the terrible massacre in Mumbai. I may be proved wrong, though, but given the state of various extremist groups in Pakistan, it is very, very difficult for the Pakistani government to withdraw all of them. They may have had a hand in generating some of these and setting them up, but it’s quite difficult to turn them off.”

Barry said Pakistan Army chief Gen Raheel Sharif was able to “take advantage” of the 2014 massacre in an army-run school in Peshawar to launch Operation Zarb-e-Azb to clear North Waziristan of militant groups.

“There is no doubt that it has made considerable difference. Islamist terrorist groups and their capabilities have been considerably degraded by the Pakistan Army and the police,” Barry said.

The “Military Balance 2016” report details various initiatives taken by the Modi government to encourage FDI and private sector participation in defence, and lists the personnel and assets of India’s armed forces and reserve forces.

“The Indian government’s ‘Make in India’ policy aims to strengthen the indigenous defence-industrial base through measures that include reforming India’s foreign direct investment cap. However, industrial-capability limitations and bureaucratic obstacles have hampered a number of promising initiatives,” it said.

Focussing more on developments related to Russia, China, Iran and NATO, the analysis states that western military technological superiority is eroding due to the proliferation of advanced military capabilities and growing accessibility to military-relevant high technology around the world.

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Source: International Institute for Strategic Studies, London

Pakistan ‘very concerned’ at India’s military modernisation | world | Hindustan Times
 
Pakistan ‘very concerned’ at India’s military modernisation
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  • Updated: Feb 09, 2016 19:57 IST
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Pakistan’s military establishment is said to be “very concerned” about the conventional military modernisation programme of the Narendra Modi government, and “frustrated” that no “deal” had been struck with India since the NDA came to power.

As the International Institute of Strategic Studies (IISS) published its annual “Military Balance 2016” report on Tuesday, Ben Barry, a senior expert who works with the military-strategic communities in India and Pakistan, said there was “great optimism” in Islamabad when Modi came to power.

“In the government and security community in Pakistan there was great optimism when Modi came to power, that he would be able to engage Pakistan and maybe strike a deal (normalisation of relations, reduction of tension over security),” Barry told HT.

“But I think there is some frustration in Islamabad that they haven’t been able to achieve that. We have contacts with the Pakistani military. I think they are very concerned about India’s conventional military modernisation.”

Barry, a former brigadier in the British army, said Pakistan was particularly concerned with India acquiring advanced weapons systems like Apache helicopters, C-130 Hercules aircraft and T-90 tanks. The India-US nuclear deal too remained a matter of concern in Islamabad.

According to the IISS expert, “We should take confidence that there hasn’t been a repetition of the terrible massacre in Mumbai. I may be proved wrong, though, but given the state of various extremist groups in Pakistan, it is very, very difficult for the Pakistani government to withdraw all of them. They may have had a hand in generating some of these and setting them up, but it’s quite difficult to turn them off.”

Barry said Pakistan Army chief Gen Raheel Sharif was able to “take advantage” of the 2014 massacre in an army-run school in Peshawar to launch Operation Zarb-e-Azb to clear North Waziristan of militant groups.

“There is no doubt that it has made considerable difference. Islamist terrorist groups and their capabilities have been considerably degraded by the Pakistan Army and the police,” Barry said.

The “Military Balance 2016” report details various initiatives taken by the Modi government to encourage FDI and private sector participation in defence, and lists the personnel and assets of India’s armed forces and reserve forces.

“The Indian government’s ‘Make in India’ policy aims to strengthen the indigenous defence-industrial base through measures that include reforming India’s foreign direct investment cap. However, industrial-capability limitations and bureaucratic obstacles have hampered a number of promising initiatives,” it said.

Focussing more on developments related to Russia, China, Iran and NATO, the analysis states that western military technological superiority is eroding due to the proliferation of advanced military capabilities and growing accessibility to military-relevant high technology around the world.

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Source: International Institute for Strategic Studies, London

Pakistan ‘very concerned’ at India’s military modernisation | world | Hindustan Times
Well this is the fruits of investing in your future- economic growth.

And consider India only spends 1.78% of its GDP on defence.
 
Why would we be concerned? Pakistan's military is at least a decade ahead of Indian military - in terms of equipment, training, experience, morale, and both physical and mental standards. Indian soldiers are still wearing tin-caps as helmets and take weeks to eliminate several militants; and you are calling that modernization - even our provincial police are better equipped then them; nothing to be worried about - this title is comical.


Yes, but that does not mean your qualitatively superior - only in numbers.

Of Course .
How can we challenge mard i momins? :rofl::sarcastic:


On topic :That is what we are talking about .Pakistan is so eager for a deal .But India doesnt care about that .
Because for us Pakistan is just an irritant neighbour .We are competing globally .So we need power projection and so we are initiating this modernization and this is just a start.
Face this hard reality .In this tough world only strength respects strength ,power respects power ,economy respects economy and technology respects technology .
GoI and Indians wont hear Pakistan because they dont have anything to influence our policy and decision
 
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Pakistan's military is at least a decade ahead of Indian military - in terms of equipment
Only a decade???

Aside from some personal equipment, the Pak Military is well behind the Indian military aggregately.
training,
Nope.
experience,
Please, what do you guys think the IA has been doing since 1947? What experience does the PA/PAF/PN have that the IA/IAF/IN does not have?

How can you be a decade ahead in morale???

both physical and mental standards

Of course, 1 Pakistani soldier/airmen/pilot is equal to 10 Indians, how could I forget.
 
@Talwar e Pakistan not sure about morale since we spilt country into two some time back and the armed forces had the greatest defeat of the millennium when 90000 surrendered. And not sure whats going to put against su30, phalcon, barak 3, arihant, ins viki, etc forget Rafael, s300 etc
 
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Of Course .
How can we challenge mard i momins? :rofl::sarcastic:


On topic :That what we talking about .Pakistan is so eager for a deal .But India doesnt care about that .
Because for us Pakistan is just an irritant neighbour .We are competing globally .So we need power projection and so we are initiating this modernization and this is just a start.
Face this hard reality .In this tough world only strength respects strength ,power respects power ,economy respects economy and technology respects technology .
GoI and Indians wont hear Pakistan because they dont have anything to influence our policy and decision
Ah yes, more supa powa talk - first get to the level of Sub-Saharan Africa before you dream of 'competing globally'.
South Asian Games 2016 | Page 8

And if we're an 'irritant' neighbour then whats up with the obsession? For example - go on youtube , type in Pakistan and click most recent uploads; it seems you Indians give more news about Pakistanis than Pakistanis them selves.
 
“In the government and security community in Pakistan there was great optimism when Modi came to power, that he would be able to engage Pakistan and maybe strike a deal (normalisation of relations, reduction of tension over security),” Barry told HT.
No chance. The case was vice versa infact.
 
Ah yes, more supa powa talk - first get to the level of Sub-Saharan Africa before you dream of 'competing globally'.
South Asian Games 2016 | Page 8

And if we're an 'irritant' neighbour then whats up with the obsession? For example - go on youtube , type in Pakistan and click most recent uploads; it seems you Indians give more news about Pakistanis than Pakistanis them selves.

And rest of the 23 states are developing ,developed and some have HDI that almost equal to developed nations:D

Sorry we have already seen that heart burning when US Prez visited our nation .If you post one example I can reply with 10 times .So cut that BS .
 
No chance. The case was vice versa infact.
of-course we all remember when nawaz came to india to normalize relation which our military hated and then few days later indian militant attacked your air-base.
 
of-course we all remember when nawaz came to india to normalize relation which our military hated and then few days later indian militant attacked your air-base.
We expected something good from Modi's BJP govt considering how their mentality is? Can it be the case considering how on loose groups like RSS, Shiv Sena etc are and how they control everything in India esp any activity related to Pakistan/Pakistanis?
 
We expected something good from Modi's BJP govt considering how their mentality is? Can it be the case considering how on loose groups like RSS, Shiv Sena etc are and how they control everything in India esp any activity related to Pakistan/Pakistanis?
i do not support rss or any religion-based organisation
but that was
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