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Pakistan to receive huge offer from Russia

Russia need to offer something big to Pakistan not just another carrot.
  • S-300/S-350/S-400
  • Transfer technology of RD93 Engine of better engine technology.
  • Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jet
  • Offer technology of Sukhoi Superjet 100
Pakistan too have to do something for it.
Even among friends there are no free lunches. Russia don't sell equipment to India for free.

We have gotten used to the frequent injections of money from USA, time and time again . Ayub khan, musharaf, 80s etc and other too in civilian times.
While our recent history is in front of our eyes that these injections are temporary and give only temporary relief . You get a steroid effect yes but it is no good in the long run . In the end you are left where you started.
This time the civilian governmnet is trying very hard for reforms with the injection and seeking exports and investment in industry from China and USA and even Russia . Only this is the hard and time tested way of developing our economy. The only injection can be local though local resources of you are lucky .
 
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Is there any country good enough for you?
Why you think you are so important that the world conspiring against you .
While saudis were on our side, Indians didn't see them as the ones supporting Pakistan . They continuously offer hand of friendship and finally now they are at the point where they are good acquaintance and business partners. So your best friend is now their friend .
But you don't even want to befriend their best friend .
You sound like a mother searching wife for his son..no matter how dumb, ugly and stupid the son may be according to her mother he deserve the best . And that best has not being created on earth .

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
Pakistanis will always be chutia...for two reasons
1. there are no friends but business
2. my post was a sarcastic reply to an Indian :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
3. ahhh i shouldn't say this
 
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So Russia is investing in coal projects and offering Sukhoi transport jets, not fighters.

Planet is moving away from coal. Why not more nuclear power plants?



We have the world's largest coal reserves. So why wouldn't we use them before jumping into something else?
They are even building plants to convert coal into petroleum and gas.
 
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Russia alone is grappling under severe sanctions and you say they are interested in investing in Pakistan....
What are they going to invest in ? Rubles??
Which bank is going to be the dealer on behalf of pakistan govt
 
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Russia need to offer something big to Pakistan not just another carrot.
  • S-300/S-350/S-400
  • Tank T-90/Armata T-14
  • Transfer technology of RD93 Engine of better engine technology.
  • Sukhoi Su-35 fighter jet
  • Offer technology of Sukhoi Superjet 100
Actually the engine is a wonderful idea. The jet would be too. Since kamra quiet clearly stated that they will begin production of civilian plans.

https://nation.com.pk/09-Dec-2019/pakistan-russia-ties-in-a-big-boom

The new Pak-Russia deal is expected to amount $9 billion under which Islamabad would purchase heavy and medium fighter jets, medium and short-range air defence systems, tanks, combat helicopters, and warships.
Uhm what? Warships? Helicopters and jets make sense cause the Su-35 and mi-28 were under evaluation. Also there was going to be a further order of more mi-35s. The air defense also makes sense cause of the Pantsir system.

Russia alone is grappling under severe sanctions and you say they are interested in investing in Pakistan....
What are they going to invest in ? Rubles??
Which bank is going to be the dealer on behalf of pakistan govt
Burnol production. It's a know fact that there is a massive market for it, in India.
 
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Actually the engine is a wonderful idea. The jet would be too. Since kamra quiet clearly stated that they will begin production of civilian plans.


Uhm what? Warships? Helicopters and jets make sense cause the Su-35 and mi-28 were under evaluation. Also there was going to be a further order of more mi-35s. The air defense also makes sense cause of the Pantsir system.


Burnol production. It's a know fact that there is a massive market for it, in India.

Seems like something is cooking with mother russia, too much silence is good in my books.
 
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Russia alone is grappling under severe sanctions and you say they are interested in investing in Pakistan....
What are they going to invest in ? Rubles??
Which bank is going to be the dealer on behalf of pakistan govt

Yeah and the way to thrive while in those sanctions is to invest in upcoming powerhouse economies like Pak and put some stakes in CPEC kinda stuff.
 
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Are they cheaper than boeing and airbus ? What is their crash history ?
PIA does need a fleet eventually.
Well, yeah they should be much cheaper than Boeing and/or airbus. But here's the the thing. PIA can get spares for those Aircrafts from other Airliners. But where do you intend to find parts for Sukhoi and/or Irkut.

The Sukhoi Super Jet entered service over a decade back & has had 4 Accidents/Incidents, of which there were deaths on 2 of them.

The Sukhoi does have 3 Variants, but it does not change the dimensions of the aircraft. Basically, they opted to squeeze the max in cramped up seating.

The Irkut MC-21 seems more promising, but is currently still undergoing Final Testing. The UAE has taken a great deal of interest in this Aircraft. Its powered by P&W (or a Russian Engine). The aisle is huge. There can be a Service Cart in the middle of the Aircraft & passengers can easily pass by from either side.

According to Irkut it is more fuel efficient than either the a320 (Family) or the B7373's.

I believe it should be fine for domestic flights. Within Pakistan to Afghanistan, and iran. We dont need fancy plans for those short flights. Boeing and airbus should be put on routes to the middle east, far east and europe/NA.
Well if that's the case, than why bother with Russian-made Airliners that have failed (Sukhoi) or unproven (MC-21).

The best option for what you're saying would be the new a220 (formerly Bombardier C-Series) - hands down. Swiss Air was the launch customer for the small C-100 & they're more than pleased with it. airBaltic took the first C-300 & they replaced their aging B737-300 (Classics) & B757 & are placing orders for more.

Another option for small Commercial Airliners could/would be from Brazilian Embraer. They're well proven in the market with various Airlines operating their planes. jetBlue, flyNas, Saudi Arabian & Oman Air just to name a few.
I don’t trust russian made airliners.

This Super 100, first introduction flight itself was a tragedy. Stay away from it.
Your first point..., well times have changed & though there is nothing really wrong with the Sukhoi Super Jet 100, but with a configuration of hardly 120 Passengers, I fail to understand why anyone would wanna buy that Aircraft. A 120 Passengers would be like picking up a B737-200 - which did well back in the 70's & 80's, but as everyone knows that configuration failed with the B737-600 (NG) in the late 90's, early 2000's.

As for your 2nd point. I highly suggest you see the video (below) of the First Time the a320 was displayed in front of the crowd at the Paris Air Show & crashed. Today, the a320 (Family) with its Neo & XLR are leaving the B737 in the dust. I know that for a fact because I operate on the B737.

 
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Do you know.how many have crashed or have had technical problems?

I'm genuinely curious. Couldn't find much on the web.

Thanks mate.
Avoid the Sukhoi Superjet 100.. just because someone offers you something doesnt mean you have to, or should buy it.

Questionable safety record of the Superjet 100 means no one is buying it! It is a lemon..
 
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