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Pakistan to give nationality to Bangladeshi immigrants, announces Imran Khan

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You are just a troll...dude.

You are deeply suffering from Pakistan phobia.
LOL, I talk truth. Which is bitter.

Just look at replies against my comments. Full of personal attacks...
 
Hah? Ever checked Bangladeshi and Pakistani birth rates and HDI ranking?

Shameless creature. Dont quote me with your low IQ rants...
One does not need to check HDI, I have seen enough of you folks in Mid-east to make a most valid opinion, you folks are diminutive in stature , narrow shouldered and most alarmingly possess (before you rant on about the IQs of your superiors) apples sized craniums.Kudos Bangla bhai
 
One does not need to check HDI, I have seen enough of you folks in Mid-east to make a most valid opinion, you folks are diminutive in stature , narrow shouldered and most alarmingly possess (before you rant on about the IQs of your superiors) apples sized craniums.Kudos Bangla bhai
LOL, these rich comments coming from a Pakistani. Who's country is a well reputed terror financer, sheltered Osama bin laden and can't even ensure safety of a mosque!

Please take your peanut sized brain farts elsewhere. UNDP ranks your country 150th in their HDI ranking for a reason...

Cheers P-a-k-i bhai...
 
It seems PM Khan is doubling down on this absurdity, he needs to realise we are living in a most dangerous neighbourhood "were good guys comes last", these benglerdeshis will be a fifth column for RAW/benglerdesh whilst Afghanis will naturally support their own NDS and ethno-fascism of Ghani in Kabul, I have many friends and contacts within the various Afghan communities residing in Pak, get to know them well and they spill out their beliefs and friend believe me this is a most common view among Afghan Pashtuns, in their ideal world all the areas of Pak which are inhabited large Pashtun communities (even if not majorities in a particular area) even they should be part of "Loy Afghanistan" ie Attock, Haripur, Abbotabad heck even Gwadar and any non Pashtuns ie Hindkowans should be expelled, once they create this Loy Afghanistan they will seize Tajik, Uzbek...Hazara areas of Afghanistan and dump those folks in Amu Darya and populate those areas with Pashtuns, I kid you not this is their ultimate dream and mindset,,,,such folks should not be permitted to reside here any longer than absolutely necessary, sure their are many good folk among them but the majority strongly subscribe to their utopian concept of "Lebensraum" in our part of the world.Kudos Sir
Exactly.
These people are not our friends and they hate our country from the bottom of their hearts. The way you have described their beliefs make it very dangerous for us to award them with green passports.
RAW/NDS/CIA will have a field day with these agents who thanks to green ID card will be able to infiltrate every govt institution of this nation including the most sensitive organizations.

Had these people not been hostile to our country I might have had a softer stance...But how can I tolerate someone who barks against my country being given citizenship.

Jus Soli had its time and place where it made sense....i.e large areas needing to be settled in the Americas...and also expansion westwards into territories of Mexico where US didnt want to drive away the settled population when they took that territory.

Hence all of the Americas largely has this policy for citizenship still. It is an artefact of the earlier days for sure and has to be revised big time imo.

Pakistan already has done something good regarding this, its not an unfettered jus soli (like US) but it has been correctly interpreted (imo) by Pak supreme court to concern only legal births (i.e the people have to be there legally in Pakistan) for the law of citizenship to apply in first place. i.e they cannot be refugee (legal but special clause) or illegal.

This is actually a debate going on behind the scenes in US right now (i.e should the reading of jus soli concern only those born under legal circumstances)....but the process will be long (result is uncertain too) and tons of damage has been done and will be done in meantime.

Imran Khan is just verbally doing this for some kind of votebanking/optics....the actual law/court hearing of the issue/ruling is quite different in Pakistan. Jus Soli only portends to those born under legal circumstances. Which means I.K has to go through a legal process to get that law changed to a more liberal reading, which I think will get much blowback/resistance from both his own party and of course all the others (esp those in Sindh like PPP) too.

A switch to blood-right citizenship (jus sanguinis) is also a fair approach or some composite of the two (that a few european countries use). In fact jus sanguinis (India uses only this as another example in your list) is the default approach existing worldwide I believe, jus soli is just added on top (otherwise kids born to US parents residing outside the country could never get US citizenship etc, this came into the limelight notably regarding Ted Cruz in 2016 etc). But a switch would need again the citizenship act of 1951 in Pakistan to be removed and replaced by a new one....given its a fundamental change. I think just keeping jus soli but adding sufficient clauses would be the right way to go....easier and more prudent. But of course the PM would need to be supportive of that tack, this speech shows quite the opposite desire....but how deep is it w.r.t words versus actual policy? We have to see.

@django @saiyan0321 @Psychic @Indus Pakistan
The interpretation of court is something I was not aware of.
And you correctly pointed out that there is a time and place for every law/policy.
 
LOL, these rich comments coming from a Pakistani. Who's country is a well reputed terror financer, sheltered Osama bin laden and can't even ensure safety of a mosque!
Whether we finance terror or not is another matter (BTW Terror Mata is your best friend:lol:), my point is we are on average physically larger in every sense of the word, no question about it,,,,,, and if we were so bad a nation why do those fish faced midgets wish to make this Indus land their abode, why do they not f-off to their Shonar Benglerdesh, Kudos Bengler bhai
 
The big difference is Pashtuns are natives to this land. Not fcking strangers to our country. They are free to move and live anywhere they want too from this slum Karachi to Islamabad. They have earned the right to do so check there contributions sacrifices they made for defence of Pakistan. Eastern borders to the western borders, Don’t fcking compare them to Bangali illegals and Indian Muslims.
they are native to KPK, not to Karachi.. as such Sindhis are only ones native.

Listen to ISI station chief of Islamabad & DG-FIA Major (R) Muhammad Amir. Go to 4:00 and find out how Karachi Airport was the funnel for illegal migration from India as late as 1990s. Indian's caught a flight to Karachi as transit passengers and then disappeared into the cities huge Mohajir community. What is more this was officially sanctioned and had powerful people backing it up.



@Desert Fox

Yes but please do note that they came from Pakistan. K-Pk is one of the units that set up the federation we call Pakistan. If K-Pk separated from Pakistan or was separate in 1960s you might have a valid comparison. But here the discussion is migration from outside of the federation. Just to clarify my dad spent some years in Karachi - 1959-62 from where he moved to UK.
I was referring to the altering of demographics for political motives.
 
Wrong. So Pakistan border control was weak. Indians turned a blind eye why wouldn’t they to complicate Karachi mess further. These bangalis entered illegally we are not America. Having state of art technology and logistics to monitory oceans. Your being over dramtic about Pakistan break up of expelling 1.5 million bengalis. You think people are going too riot in Peshawar. Quetta , Islamabad over this. Cmon that’s not going to happen. You talk about failures of Pakistan border guards of not performing the job properly by initially stopping them. But then you suggesting we give them mass amnesty meaning more will now come making it even worser problem. Stop telling this to millions of bangalis and Indians they can be rewarded

Don't get flattered by the Tamil troll nor just try to make you fool in front of everyone. 1st thing the Indian idiot said Bangladeshis went to Pakistan via passenger ship routed by Dubai and Bombay and via container. Only a kids may believe such funny theory that someone who can goes upto Dubai will go to Karachi again and also via Bombay. Via container it is out of question. We are not talking about few but 1-3 million people.

Regarding crossing via India, when any Bangladeshi supposedly crossed into India from eastern front saying they will go to Pakistan do you think BSF and Indian army welcomes them with bed of roses? Do not stay in your fools paradise.

Bangladesh during 1971 had 70 million population. Do you think there were no Bengali living in Pakistan during 1971 or after that. Just for your info cutoff time for Pakistan is 1978 not even 1971. However significant number of Bengalis national id was cancelled despite showing their presence prior to 1971.

Even your own Pakistani newspaper reported whatever illegal immigrant was there in Karachi mostly opted to move out due to poor economic condition and Pakistani rupees price fall it is no longer a viable option to live in Pakistan without any id. But those who are living there for long enough it is a serious issue for them as they are local to Pakistan then Bangladesh.

https://www.dawn.com/news/1414503/bengalis-of-karachi-demand-urgent-resolution-to-identity-problem

Apparently, the cut-off year is kept at 1978 to differentiate between Bengalis who are legally entitled to residence in Pakistan and those who emigrated from Bangladesh in search of a livelihood.

Social activists, however, estimate that over the years, economic migrants have mostly moved out because it is no longer profitable to work and earn in Pakistan due to the rupee being weaker than the Bangladeshi taka.

Lastly the number of Bengalis indicated in the article is 1.2 million that is reasonable considering both east and west wing were same country and east wing had a population of 70 million. Just for info upto 1971 3 of my close relatives and their families lived in Pakistan.
 
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The interpretation of court is something I was not aware of.
And you correctly pointed out that there is a time and place for every law/policy.

Bro, I wasn't aware of it either till @saiyan0321 posted this thread here:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/the-law-behind-citizenship-in-pakistan.577696/

Pakistan follows common law system, so it means now there is precedent on the matter. By stare decisis, it is unlikely that any judge will rule differently henceforth too. Thus I think Pakistan is safe on the matter, unless Imran Khan actually wants to make this an actual policy matter (needing bill to be introduced and voted upon, and I think 2/3rds majority if it needs re-writing of constitution or an amendment) rather than just speech matter.
 
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Rakhine state emerges from Baluchistan. Imran Khan doing a really good job.
 
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Rakhine state emerges from Baluchistan. Imran Khan doing a really good job.

Lol....

There’s no Buddhists in Pakistan to do mass murder. Or a coward state like Bangladesh as spectating.

Imran Khan is of Pashtun background. Work it out.

Big mistake by him. better not to have them thrown in with the Bangladeshis for citizenships

Lol....and that’s the truth
 
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Lol....

There’s no Buddhists in Pakistan to do mass murder. Or a coward state like Bangladesh as spectating.

Imran Khan is of Pashtun background. Work it out.

Big mistake by him. better not to have them thrown in with the Bangladeshis for citizenships

Lol....and that’s the truth
You know its inevitable dude. Just ask any Rakhine Baluch here. There are plenty in PDF. Or maybe @el sidd?

Okay where is el sidd? Perma banned?
 
You know its inevitable dude. Just ask any Rakhine Baluch here. There are plenty in PDF. Or maybe @el sidd?

Okay where is el sidd? Perma banned?

Go join. Alex Jones
You know its inevitable dude. Just ask any Rakhine Baluch here. There are plenty in PDF. Or maybe @el sidd?

Okay where is el sidd? Perma banned?

Omg.

I made the initial mistake of corresponding with you. I don’t know why? Your mug shot should have been a warning to me lol

Try Alex Jones. Hes an expert on wacko news
 
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There is a difference even though issue is same.

Bihari living in Bd wants to settle in Pakistan rather than Bangladesh whereas Bengalee living in Pakistan wants to settle in Pakistan.

So, Pakistan is more desirable here.
Somewhat true, not all Biharis wants to go back, the consensus is 50-50... those who went to school and worked hard made a life for themselves and are living nicely in bd... the other scums who went to madrassa at best are still rotting in Geneva camps
 
Somewhat true, not all Biharis wants to go back, the consensus is 50-50... those who went to school and worked hard made a life for themselves and are living nicely in bd... the other scums who went to madrassa at best are still rotting in Geneva camps
where did you get all these stats?
 
Why is this in the Bangladesh defence section?
 

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