Pakistan to buy Air Defence Systems from Turkey

[ZAC1]

alot is coming with t-129 heli deal....in 2022 pakistan will have many deadly goodies from strong air force to strong navy...

 

[waz]

I don't see what systems can fit Pakistan's long-range requirement, especially since they are buying off the shelf systems themselves.

 

[dBSPL]

Local resources shared information on the establishment of a common air force training infrastructure. We know that evaluations continue.

I watched the president's press release. There was no declaration about air defense systems.

However, within the scope of the MILGEM project, Korkut CIWS system could be evaluated. Or the HISAR-NAVAL system as an ESSM counterpart can be evaluated.

I do not want to generate speculation, but if this information correct, I would like to remind that Turkey is currently working on an air defense system called SIPER. The completion date for the project is 2021.

With last years, sales to Pakistan include technology transfer, unlike in other countries. Therefore, if there is an air defense system on table, the negotiated situation is probably joint project.

But as I said, no such information was given in the press release. If the Pakistani sources have not received insider, it may have been a translation error.

 

[YeBeWarned]

If i am not wrong HISAR is not even ready ? @cabatli_53

 

[cabatli_53]

If i am not wrong HISAR is not even ready ? @cabatli_53

Turkey and Pakistan negotiated over active trials of Korkut CIWS in Pakistan. Maybe, the air defence system refers to potantial Korkut system procurement for Pakistan.

Besides, Hisar missile family is in active trial phase and will be completed in 2019/2020 for Hisar-A/O, while Siper long range missile defense system will be ready for operations in 2021.

 

[Ali_Baba]

What is the range of the Siper platform? How could it compare to the S400 series? 2021 doesnt sound too far away!

The following seems to suggest 90km only.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2018-11/02/c_137577302.htm

 

[Path-Finder]

IF this system is being procured! then there is no need for pantsir!

 

[ZedZeeshan]

Turkey and Pakistan negotiated over active trials of Korkut CIWS in Pakistan. Maybe, the air defence system refers to potantial Korkut system procurement for Pakistan.

Besides, Hisar missile family is in active trial phase and will be completed in 2019/2020 for Hisar-A/O, while Siper long range missile defense system will be ready for operations in 2021.

I will appreciate if you can share the pic of Korkut...Thanks

 

[Foxtrot Delta]

I dont think turkish have good lomg range missile defence systems. China is our best bet.

 

[HRK]

Korkut CIWS system could be evaluated

in past there was some rumours about testing of Korkut system (I think in Turkey) by PA

 

[dBSPL]

I will appreciate if you can share the pic of Korkut...Thanks

Korkut-2x35mm CIWS

CIRIT and L-Umtas Sea tests (The Pakistani army will use these ammunitions on ATAK helicopters.)

Not sure where to put it, but I think this is the most appropriate place.
I'm also bit surprised but, it's good to see where it's goin..

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Edit: explanation for non-Turkish speakers…
In summary; In October 2018, it was stated that the Cirit and L-Umtas G/M shots were successfully carried out in the Aegean Sea on-board Burak Class ( ex-D'Estienne d'Orves-class A69 type Aviso ) corvettes.

CAFRAD Radar Suites:

So, they are testing;

Active, Non-Rotating IFF Antenna Subsystem

• STANAG 4193 compliant Mode 1/2/3/C/S/5 interrogation
• 450 km range​

Active Phased Array Multifunction Radar (ÇFR)

• X-Band
• Volume and horizon search,
• Air/surface target detection, tracking and classification,
• Sea-skimming fast-small target detection and tracking,
• Multiple target precise tracking,
• 150 km range
• Track capacity >1000​

Active Phased Array Illumination Radar (AYR)

• X-Band
• Semi-active missile guidance
• 150 km range​

What is not part of the testing;

Active Phased Array Long Range Search Radar (UMR)

• S-Band
• Long Range volume search,
• Air/surface target detection, tracking and classification,
• 450 km range
• Track capacity >2000​

Turkey is not only on the long-range air defense systems, at the same time target illumination and identification, countermeasures and self-defense systems and also for asymmetric targets , carry out a number of projects .

Turkey defence industry, will reach to capacity of provide complete surface platform solutions, in 4-5 years.

 

[War Thunder]

The highlighted part is where Turkish President said that we bought Trainer Jets from Pakistan and they would buy Air Defence systems from us.

The highlighted part says, "Missiles involved in Turk Defence, will be sold to Pakistan".

How are you misquoting and mis translating that as "Air defence", and giving a title to a whole thread over it?

There are already talks of buying missiles from Turks, and there have been some threads over it as well. ATGM's and Air to Ground Missiles in particular where it actually makes some sense. But misquoting and creating false speculation over nothing?

@waz @dBSPL @cabatli_53

 

[khansaheeb]

We can't keep buying combat untested weapons, we need proof of performance and valid results and data.

 

[cabatli_53]

I will appreciate if you can share the pic of Korkut...Thanks

Aselsan 35mm AHEAD munition

 

[Ali_Baba]

We can't keep buying combat untested weapons, we need proof of performance and valid results and data.

The only people who can provide combat tested systems are the Americans and the UK. All of the Chinese systems are not combat tested, most of the Russian stuff is not combat tested(though some of that has changed with Syria). How is Turkey stuff any different than Chinese stuff ?

At least the Turkish stuff has been specified and build to NATO standards with all the experience that entails.