Pakistan to buy 40 SU-35 or Euro Fighter soon

[dadeechi]

Its hard to believe , but my take on this is, there is some thing big cooking First are EFTs and SU-35 expansive sure hell they are but please , please name any cheap and cost-effective 4.5++ bird (new one) . I am sure there is none but if u guys know any please let all other members know.
Now come to practicality , is it possible for Pakistan to have EFTs and(or) SU-35 , Off course Yes a Big Yes.
Brothers and sisters Money is not Issue here , the issue is availability , let me tell you all one thing if UK and others offers us EFTs (new and latest version ) note my words PAF will go and buy them.
I personally think it will be EFTs(if any came) Y because , First, KSA will soon have there own production line of EFTs(as per old reports and news) and secondly it will be a perfect brother in arm of TFX (Turkey 5th Gen).

@Zarvan , @MastanKhan , @Tipu7

True EFT & TFX may have synergies apart from the Saudi angle.

But remember the OEMs countries of Euro Fighter are themselves planning to replace their Euro fighters with F-35s.. There would not be any follow-on program.

With the failed coup and downward spiral of Turkey's relations with the West, I would not be surprised if TFX would sport a Russian engine.

 

[waz]

Our typhoons will be the best choice for Pakistan. Eventhough it's expensive, but it's worth it at the end. Nothing good comes cheap .

They would be, the PAF air chief is in love with the plane. They are costly but in-line with other high end planes.

True EFT & TFX may have synergies apart from the Saudi angle.

But remember the OEMs countries of Euro Fighter are themselves planning to replace their Euro fighters with F-35s.. There would not be any follow-on program.

With the failed coup and downward spiral of Turkey's relations with the West, I would not be surprised if TFX would sport a Russian engine.

The EFT's will be in operation for quite some time. The UK aims to replace the Tornado. For other countries it is the F-16.

 

[Viper0011.]

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@Horus @Oscar @Arsalan @RAMPAGE @AUz @WebMaster

HA!! Another one of those topics where "I told you so" like two years ago. Where is the "it will never happen" crowd today on this??

I'd go with SU-35, try to get upgrading capability and some TOT if possible. This experience would help build a better and bigger JFT platform for PAF's future.

EFT has been taken out by the MLU block 15's. That tells you something. I won't get that to be frank. Block 52 has very similar capability minus the AESA. SU-35 and future JFT platforms will bring AESA to the PAF so you'll be up to speed. But heavies is what the PAF needs, badly!!

@MastanKhan : your thoughts?

 

[untitled]

SU-35 production has already begun. Currently it's about four planes a year, produced from the 11 bedrooms of various Pakistani PDF posters.

Now I know why the AC in my bedroom sounds and acts funny. It is not an AC but a Euro Fighter on board oxygen generation system

 

[Hassan Guy]

Its hard to believe , but my take on this is, there is some thing big cooking First are EFTs and SU-35 expansive sure hell they are but please , please name any cheap and cost-effective 4.5++ bird (new one) . I am sure there is none but if u guys know any please let all other members know.
Now come to practicality , is it possible for Pakistan to have EFTs and(or) SU-35 , Off course Yes a Big Yes.
Brothers and sisters Money is not Issue here , the issue is availability , let me tell you all one thing if UK and others offers us EFTs (new and latest version ) note my words PAF will go and buy them.
I personally think it will be EFTs(if any came) Y because , First, KSA will soon have there own production line of EFTs(as per old reports and news) and secondly it will be a perfect brother in arm of TFX (Turkey 5th Gen).

@Zarvan , @MastanKhan , @Tipu7

I think TFX and EFT would be good. No need for J-31 and F-sola's.

 

[waz]

Now I know why the AC in my bedroom sounds and acts funny. It is not an AC but a Euro Fighter on board oxygen generator system

You mean SU-35 saturn engine. According to some PDF sources, PAF SU-35's will be coming with a new "jupiter" engine.

 

[Hassan Guy]

I think TFX and EFT would be good. No need for J-31 and F-sola's.

True EFT & TFX may have synergies apart from the Saudi angle.

But remember the OEMs countries of Euro Fighter are themselves planning to replace their Euro fighters with F-35s.. There would not be any follow-on program.

With the failed coup and downward spiral of Turkey's relations with the West, I would not be surprised if TFX would sport a Russian engine.

F-35 won't replace EFT. Countries will operate them side by side. For us instead of F-35 it should be TFX or J-31(preferably TFX)

 

[untitled]

Our typhoons will be the best choice for Pakistan. Eventhough it's expensive, but it's worth it at the end. Nothing good comes cheap .

If it ever enters service in PAF it should be renamed South Asia Fighter Toofan from EFT Typhoon. (Hmm but why does this sound more like a washing machine?)

The Indians already have taken the name Toofani for their Ouragons

 

[Signalian]

India is not interested in SU-35s. India is pursuing Super Sukhoi and PAK-FA/FGFA programs.

It is just a question of if Pakistan would be opting for SU-35s or not.

India will also not be interested in facing SU-35 also. India shows concern on F-16 for Pakistan whereas SU-35 is a family of aircraft flown by IAF, hard to ignore.

Probably the Rafale deal hurt Russia. PAF already buying RD-93 for Jf-17 through China.

 

[The Eagle]

India is already going for Super Sukhoi upgrade for her existing fleet of SUs so SU-35 wouldn't be feasible that much (if the news carry any weight) and chances are less.

A wild guess, while looking at BAE with TAI in TFX and Turkey's offer to Pakistan to join the program, seems like if Pakistan joins the TFX (BAE in there) EFT seems feasible but still there is a big IF from different point of views that starts with MONEY in first place.

Rest about help from Saudis etc (Speculations), I don't know why we are still towing the line that is not credible at all ATM even they pay, nothing comes free so hope for the best and the option may be not by relying on someone else.

An official statement would be more to believe however, options are still open and no mention of specific bird at all so lets wait.

 

[volatile]

Purely ceremonial visit.
One can say that Pakistan Russia relationship are still stuck as Putin has turned down Pakistani request to visitors Pakistan.

lolz @ ceremonial visit ,keep dreaming

 

[RedHulk]

What if i tell you a new 5th generation plane is being designed by two of the hostile countries together? Their previous projects were also similar. Guess which countries

 

[dadeechi]

India will also not be interested in facing SU-35 also. India shows concern on F-16 for Pakistan whereas SU-35 is a family of aircraft flown by IAF, hard to ignore.

Probably the Rafale deal hurt Russia. PAF already buying RD-93 for Jf-17 through China.

Indians would be happy if Pakistan would opt for Euro Fighter than SU-35s.

 

[Hassan Guy]

Until Bilal khan writes on Quwa about this im not jumping to conclusions.

Indians would be happy if Pakistan would opt for Euro Fighter than SU-35s.

Why?

 

[I S I]

Yawn