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Pakistan to approach IMF for a bailout, Asad Umar announces

at least someone is doing talk shows on economy otherwise its always non sense


Atleast one thing has cleared after reading the posts in this thread, only Indians and Noothiyas are happy that PTI has gone to IMF.

Indians + Noothiyas vs PTI
Ptian sad about PTI went to IMF? because I see most of them defending by saying that its only option available
 
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We have
  • Asian Development Banks 7 Billion Dollar secured
  • IMF might give us 3-6 Billion Dollar
  • OIC might give us 1-3 Billion

However the country cannot run on Loans , we need to Collect Taxes

Option 1:

  • Income Tax 25-30% Tax
Current Ratio : 0.14% not even 1% This has not worked for last 28 years

Option 2: :pakistan:
  • Sales Tax 25%-35% on all Goods [Enforceable at Good Distribution Level ]
Benefit Applicable equally on All rich and poor people

Option 3: :pakistan: [BRUTE FORCE TAX COLLECTION ]
  • Road Tolls (100 rupee per vehicle on road valid for 30 days), [Enforceable by Rangers /Police ]
  • Permits for Small Shops (1,000 Rupee per shop) [Enforceable by Rangers/Police]
  • Animal Slaughter Rights (10,000 Rupee per Animal) [Enforceable by Rangers/Police]
  • Cell Phone Recharge (100 Rupee collected from every cell phone recharge) [Enforceable by Telecom Companies]
Inescapable Taxes


Either of Option 2 or Option 3 is doable in Pakistan 100% without requiring IMF
 
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@BHarwana is clutching at straws for his dear life hahahahah. @Roybot ne keh ke le li .

Also nothing wrong in going to IMF. What is wrong is painting IMF as some evil organisation who is coming to get you when all it is doing is making sure to keep your head above water. This reminds me of a story of a Monk and a Scorpion.
When a Monk saw scorpion drowning he picked it up and was helping it cross the tumultuous waters. What did scorpion do, he stung the monk. Upon seeing that a passerby asked why don't you drop this scorpion ? Monk replied just like helping is my nature stringing is this scorpion's.
 
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at least someone is doing talk shows on economy otherwise its always non sense



Ptian sad about PTI went to IMF? because I see most of them defending by saying that its only option available

Yes we are sad that it had to come to this, but when you have no money what did you expect?
 
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at least someone is doing talk shows on economy otherwise its always non sense



Ptian sad about PTI went to IMF? because I see most of them defending by saying that its only option available

Malick is like best anchor/host in Pakistan by country mile. Only one with some education.
 
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We have
  • Asian Development Banks 7 Billion Dollar secured
  • IMF might give us 3-6 Billion Dollar
  • OIC might give us 1-3 Billion

However the country cannot run on Loans , we need to Collect Taxes

Option 1:

  • Income Tax 25-30% Tax
Current Ratio : 0.14% not even 1% This has not worked for last 28 years

Option 2: :pakistan:
  • Sales Tax 25%-35% on all Goods [Enforceable at Good Distribution Level ]
Benefit Applicable equally on All rich and poor people

Option 3: :pakistan: [BRUTE FORCE TAX COLLECTION ]
  • Road Tolls (100 rupee per vehicle on road valid for 30 days), [Enforceable by Rangers /Police ]
  • Permits for Small Shops (1,000 Rupee per shop) [Enforceable by Rangers/Police]
  • Animal Slaughter Rights (10,000 Rupee per Animal) [Enforceable by Rangers/Police]
  • Cell Phone Recharge (100 Rupee collected from every cell phone recharge) [Enforceable by Telecom Companies]
Inescapable Taxes


Either of Option 2 or Option 3 is doable in Pakistan 100% without requiring IMF

Option 2 will kill the local economy. Raising the sales tax will increases the prices of commodities, people will spend less which means business will loose money and will lay off staff, which will in turn mean less buying power and the vicious circle will spiral out of control.

In place of raising GST i recommend increasing custom tax on imported goods, this will actually help the local manufactures and also reduce the import bill in the long term.
 
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Malick is like best anchor/host in Pakistan by country mile. Only one with some education.
Yes true and also he has done many programme about land mafia malik riaz . He actually know what he is talking about

Yes we are sad that it had to come to this, but when you have no money what did you expect?
When Pakistan had money ? They always had no money lol but your leadership was mocking others when they were going to IMF now faces got change but policy of going to IMF is consistent
 
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Option 2 will kill the local economy. Raising the sales tax will increases the prices of commodities, people will spend less which means business will loose money and will lay off staff, which will in turn mean less buying power and the vicious circle will spiral out of control.

In place of raising GST i recommend increasing custom tax on imported goods, this will actually help the local manufactures and also reduce the import bill in the long term.


Option 2 is sales tax and it will have minimum impact on Poor , the more expensive your good is the more tax you pay

For Poor : If you bought 2 Roti it would mean you can afford 1.75 Roti
For Rich : If you bought a 70,000 BMW you will pay 21,000 Dollar taxes

Example:
  • Lets Assume Bun Kabab sells for 400 rupees , with tax it will be 520 Rupee still very much affordable, that extra 100 rupee will not make a dent



Option 3:
I like Option 3 because it is Brute Force no one gets away
It's ideal for Stubborn people who use every trick in book to by pass taxes

a) If you have a physical Shop you have to have a permit or your shop is closed down
(1,000 Rupee per small shop monthly) , you can't hide your shop !!! Your business

b) If you have a car/motorcycle/bus/truck , you need to buy a pass to drive that on road (100 rupee valid for 30 days) , I mean you can't fake it or get away you need to be on the road daily so you will 100% pay that 100 rupee for 30 days (1 month Pass)
Simple check points can enforce PASS CHECKS for 100% compliance

c) Cell phones are simplest , right from telecom company , every phone = confirmation you have phone you recharge and money can be easily collected

d) Every one sacrifices an animal , and if you can buy a 3-4 Lakh animal I am sure you can buy a 10,000 rupee permit



Option 2 / Option 3 together might be too much too quickly , but Option 3 would be easily absorbable
 
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When Pakistan had money ? They always had no money lol but your leadership was mocking others when they were going to IMF now faces got change but policy of going to IMF is consistent

You are right, my leader was mocking them for taking loans to build orange trains and metros instead of hospitals or dams. Now all these metros and orange line trains are proven to be making a loss and are a burden on an already weak economy. We are paying interest on a loan for a project that is also making a loss, where is the sense in that?

Now if they don't go to IMF what options do they have? let the country go bankrupt? You sound like that neighborhood aunty that always finds flaws in everything.

Imran Khan asked Pakistanis for donations to help build a dam...........Neighborhood Aunty" Mega projects are not made by donations" or "Look he is begging"

P.S. Shehbaz Sharif actually said that on the assembly floor
 
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As long as security problems decrease, then I am happy.
 
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we will see what happens over the next 3 years...
I was fan of PMLN govt for first 6 months based upon their manifesto...
But well now everything they did is going to come and bite PTI..even the LNG electric plants will be too expensive to operate..why they ditched coal...we dont know ...we were told no investment was being done...well even the LNG were built via psdp...If he had invested that money from day 1 on coal imoorted and local than today the oil prices wouldnt have effected us..oil is gone up from 45$ to 80$ and is projected to hit 100$...instead govt wasted 2 years and than suddenly realized about LNG last 2 years
 
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You are right, my leader was mocking them for taking loans to build orange trains and metros instead of hospitals or dams. Now all these metros and orange line trains are proven to be making a loss and are a burden on an already weak economy. We are paying interest on a loan for a project that is also making a loss, where is the sense in that?

Now if they don't go to IMF what options do they have? let the country go bankrupt? You sound like that neighborhood aunty that always finds flaws in everything.

Imran Khan asked Pakistanis for donations to help build a dam...........Neighborhood Aunty" Mega projects are not made by donations" or "Look he is begging"

P.S. Shehbaz Sharif actually said that on the assembly floor
Come on Imad.Khan be honest with yourself . Your leader was saying that " main mar jahoon ga lakin ksis se paisey nhi loon ga main ne apne baap se be paise nhi lia kabhi : 2014 " yes your leader was mocking others to take loan for building metro whom he was calling jungla bus but then you know what happened ? He also went and took loans to build same metro in KPK and they had no skills to even complete the project and who will be responsible for this failed project and money wasted on it . Imran khan ended up doing every same thing for which he criticised others ..Master of u turn ..I am not fan of PML or shabaaz or zaradri or Imran ..they are all same and it seem there is no difference between their supporters as well because they all justify everything their leaedership or party do and has no courage to see any flaws in them
 
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